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6:57 pm
March 5, 2008
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Logisti
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This show has four guys, two are skeptical and two are "believers". One of them, this guy Bill, runs UFO magazine.
I swear, sometimes I don't know why I watch this show. Some episodes are good but Bill always takes the smallest piece of evidence and uses it to make wild unsupported claims. It's inevitable in every episode, watch for it. Pat did it a couple of times early on but he seems to have calmed down a little.
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9:16 pm
March 10, 2008
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OMG!!! I finally watched this show the other night when they pulled the piece of iron out of someone. Didn't catch the whole thing but came in about halfway through. The scientists I like, but whoever that guy that blinks a lot is, is really a big unreal.
The scientists were telling him that basically it was nothing and he didn't seem to want to listen to anything. Does that normally happen with this guy? The guy was sitting behind and has some facial tics. That is a description only not a slur or nasty remark on his appearance.
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9:59 pm
March 10, 2008
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I'm not sure if you mean Bill, but during that little surgical procedure he's the one who was driving me crazy because he was watching everything on the X-Ray and he kept going nuts about how the object embedded under the guy's skin was jumping all over the place even though nothing was touching it.
He seemed to be claiming that the object was self-aware or something and that it was resisting being removed. To me it seemed perfectly obvious: The object was embedded in soft tissue and when the surgeon was trying to grab it, he was moving the soft tissue so the object bounced around a little; but apparently the fact that you can't see soft tissue in an X-Ray was completely over this guy's head.
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9:34 am
April 2, 2008
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Logisti – it is Bill as I have tried to watch a couple of additional episodes and caught the name. Bill is one of those people who believes so fiercely that he can't bear to hear anything other than his own opinion. There are a lot of people like this out there. These are the ones that the non-believers always trot out as "those nuts". It is very sad to me that a person has to hold on to something so tightly because you know they would totally loose it if they realized maybe they were wrong.
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8:02 pm
April 13, 2008
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The episode with the metal in the leg is probably one of their
worst. First they scan for RF transmissions coming from the supposed
probe. They fail to shield the RF detector in any way from external
signals. One of the two frequencies they detect is 3.58 MHz.
Electrical engineers will mediately recognize this as the frequency
of a TV crystal. In other words they were detecting the presence of TV
monitors in a room full of video equipment. The other frequency is
probably a local radio station.
Then they confirm it is metal by
exposing it to a strong magnet. Later, they are surprised that it has a
magnetic field, Well, thats what happens when an iron alloy is exposed
to a strong magnetic field.
I also was laughing at the object
moving as the doctor probed for it in the guys leg (different guy than
the above). You can even see that the object is moving in unison with
the hemostats.Bill chimes in "there is nothing touching it, there are
no fluids in there", completely ignoring the solid flesh that is
invisible to the X-Ray.
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4:39 pm
April 19, 2008
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I like Bill, but then I KNOW there are UFO's..had my own experience and there is NO ONE that can tell me otherwise…
Bill has a lot of real contacts and has had a lot of info that he can't talk about. He has said as much before..he has no proof of what he knows so He doesn't try to present it…but he DOES try to find ANYTHING that he can use…
For me, there is no Skeptic at all.. They ARE real… nothing man made can do what I saw nor can anythign man made go from a stationary penny sized ultra bright white object over head,get even brighter then to nothing in under a second (And appeard to self implode on itself).. waited 10 min to make sure it wasn't a cloud (At night) and all the other stars and planets remained visable…
Also seen the large cigar shaped GLOWING amber objects going overhead at night (Small town, no major airport for 120 miles), no sound and no way it was a plane that low in the sky…
Or a night full of dancing red/green/blue/white/yallow/orange lights in the sky…
Or a night when in the eastern sky, just after sunset, a HUGE orange glowing object(think basketball sized at about 3 feet from you) decended down behind a mountain.. No way it was the sun or a reflection of it since it was already down…. and the moon was visable overhead….
A friend of mine has also been seeing some weird things in the evenings at his house… strange enough that he was afraid to comment on them cause he thought people would think he was crazy….
Heck I even saw one object that DID have sound…but..er well you can't say I saw it, just heard it go over head..looked up and nothign but Blackbut I could follow it just by the sound…kinda like a toy DC motor type sound..but this was at 3am so I doubt someone was playign with a toy…
Also another frind and I both saw a strange glowing light sitting stationary about 1/2 -1 mile off…all of a suddon it slowly moves to the right.. no way it was a plane cause it made a 90 degree turn..it was dead stationary for more than a minute….was also cigar shaped…
I've seen everythign from copters to Military jets at night go over, flying low.. and NONE of them are even close to similar
I don't think anyone has a right to critisize Bill for being passioante about what he believes.. maybe what you see as over entusiastic, is him being frustrated cause he KNOWS the truth but can't get that evidence to prove it to people that wouldn't believe it if they saw one themselves…
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11:02 am
April 21, 2008
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Robbin
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Medievil – I for one was not trying to critize him for his belief. What I have an issue with is taking every teenie tiny piece of "evidence" and turning it in to a UFO. What tends to happen is that people get turned off and dismiss him as being a UFO kook.
Do I think UFO's are out there, yes I do, but I don't think every bit of evidence that is shown is a UFO.
I too had my own very odd experience when I was 12. I was with a group of 5 kids ranging in age of 5-12. We were on a play ground on the swings to be exact at our apartment complex. The playground had a group of trees that lines a highway at the back of it. This was a narrow strip of land and the building was about 50 years from the swing set.
It was broad daylight. We were walking from the swings to the building when we noticed a VERY BRIGHT light over us. We didn't think much at first because helicopters used to fly over with some regularity.
However, we all looked up because the light was just over us, no sound and no movement. We looked at for about 5 seconds or so and then it just lifted up and disappeared. Then suddenly, it got really cloudy and it had been a beautiful sunny day.
I can't tell you what it was or what it wasn't I know what happened but I have no explanation for it. It was very odd and I remember it like yesterday.
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1:25 pm
April 21, 2008
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Have to agree about Bill and Pat. UFO Hunters is nowhere near the same league as GH, with regards to skepticism. They're out to prove UFOs exist, period.
Bill publishes a UFO magazine — the more believers there are, the more readers he has. For instance, there was an episode where two cops thought they saw a UFO on FLIR. Turns out it was probably a helicopter, but Bill wasn't having any of that. "It was in stealth mode!" he exclaimed.
What's sad is that they actually have a bonafide scientist on this show, and they don't use him for aggressive, critical debunking. For that matter, GH could sure use some scientists in its ranks — at least a psychologist or an anthropologist, somebody who could help explain how the human mind can create expectations.
Right now, you can't really call what the GH team does "science." It's more like practical debunking, which is fine and useful, but it's really not the scientific method.
Anyway, I still watch UFOH, because Bill is entertaining. :)
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10:36 pm
April 21, 2008
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medievil
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Sully said:
Have to agree about Bill and Pat. UFO Hunters is nowhere near the same league as GH, with regards to skepticism. They're out to prove UFOs exist, period.
Bill publishes a UFO magazine — the more believers there are, the more readers he has. For instance, there was an episode where two cops thought they saw a UFO on FLIR. Turns out it was probably a helicopter, but Bill wasn't having any of that. "It was in stealth mode!" he exclaimed.
What's sad is that they actually have a bonafide scientist on this show, and they don't use him for aggressive, critical debunking. For that matter, GH could sure use some scientists in its ranks — at least a psychologist or an anthropologist, somebody who could help explain how the human mind can create expectations.
Right now, you can't really call what the GH team does "science." It's more like practical debunking, which is fine and useful, but it's really not the scientific method.
Anyway, I still watch UFOH, because Bill is entertaining. :)
Ummm..wasn't a heliocopter…The skeptical guy couldn't say it was cause it didn't look the same…plus it didn't look like one at all. IMHO… the back rotor was turned wrong…
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@ Robinn.. I wasn't disagreeing, just was putting out my thoughts on WHY he grabs onto every thing he can…
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8:46 am
April 22, 2008
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Logisti
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Actually, everybody agreed it didn't look anything like a helicopter until at the very end when they took their own camera and filmed a helicopter. There was a section of the film where they deliberately defocused to see if that was the issue — even though they thought they had pretty much ruled that out — and the defocused image turned out to look almost exactly like the original footage recorded by the cops.
Interestingly enough, the editors of the show did choose to include the footage where they decided that it probably was a helicopter after all, but only briefly and there was no real followup — so many viewers may have been left with the impression that their original verdict (that it couldn't have been a helicopter because of the way it seemed to rotate) was correct, when in fact they actually seemed to overturn it at the end of the episode but then glossed over it.
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11:02 am
April 29, 2008
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I'm watching one of the UFO Hunters episodes on the On Demand channel…….
Bill just told some guy that he is a hybrid between ET and a human.
Bill…..please….
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11:58 am
April 29, 2008
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Logisti
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Oh yeah. Even Pat was like, WHOA… wait a minute, slow down there!
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5:54 am
June 7, 2008
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A UFO those doesn't mean it has to be a alien or something from space though does it. It just means an Unidentified Flying Object right? I just finished watching the first episode of Ufo Hunters online – with the Carteret UFo Sightings. It was interesting.
Telling someone thier an Et Human Hybrid seems abit out there :P
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There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. ~ Hamlet ~William Shakespeare
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9:48 pm
June 18, 2008
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I often wonder what aliens would do if they actually landed on my 10-acre property. And I can't help but imagine that one would walk over to where I was standing, dumbfounded, and first of all apologize for trespassing. The second sentence might be something like, "Hi, I'm Mike, and that's Bill over there by the ship." Just like that, perfect english and common American given names. And why not? They're intelligent enough to do as the Romans do, so to speak. They may have even been born here, just as many of our terrestrial aliens have been, in which case they're actually American citizens. In fact, their family may have been on this continent a lot longer than mine, in which case I would be the newcomer, not them. I guess the point is, real life is always much more mundane than fiction, and this would almost certainly be true about little men from space, too. We'd marvel at their arrival, but unless they were really good at dinner conversation, the fascination would ultimately turn to boredom. Oddly enough, I think Men In Black may be closer to the truth than Close Encounters.
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9:15 pm
January 15, 2009
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Robbin said:
OMG!!! I finally watched this show the other night when they pulled the piece of iron out of someone. Didn't catch the whole thing but came in about halfway through. The scientists I like, but whoever that guy that blinks a lot is, is really a big unreal.
The scientists were telling him that basically it was nothing and he didn't seem to want to listen to anything. Does that normally happen with this guy? The guy was sitting behind and has some facial tics. That is a description only not a slur or nasty remark on his appearance.
So right, this guy with the aviation glasses and the hat killls the show. He needs to go and be replaced with a true aviation expert, engineer, or someone who has at least made a paper airplane.
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7:05 am
January 16, 2009
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yeah right said:
So right, this guy with the aviation glasses and the hat killls the show. He needs to go and be replaced with a true aviation expert, engineer, or someone who has at least made a paper airplane.
I agree, but it ain't gonna happen. He owns and publishes UFO magazine, and is probably the only reason this show got greenlighted. He is a bizarre little man though. All those facial ticks and head shakings weird me out. Did you see the episode where they covered the UFO's in Mexico? Amazingly enough, they actually completely de-bunked all of those, but sometime towards the end Bill actually left open the door for these sightings to be credible. He'll see a UFO even if it has a big "US Airways" painted on the side.
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12:02 pm
April 25, 2009
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Bill is Crazy? Naw, Crazy was years ago! Just watched the Grey's Conspiracy. Oh, the skull is an alien child. Well, maybe it's a half-human half-alien interbreed. Skull gets reconstructed. One of the sane guys says if you add hair, change the skin color it would look awfully human. Oh, Bill steps in and goes with his hybrid-human interbreed. Or a hybrid of a hybrid then mating with a human. That's their goal, it's what's up here (points to head) that counts, not what the outside looks like.
I suspect he could have been shown a verifiable human skull and he would claim that this was the ultimate product of the interbreeding…an alien that looks like a human!
GH is beginning to look hopeful again! lol
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12:44 pm
April 25, 2009
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Bill's so far out there he ain't ever gonna' make it back.
He sees an alien on every grassy knoll.
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1:31 pm
May 11, 2009
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13pranks said:
I often wonder what aliens would do if they actually landed on my 10-acre property. And I can't help but imagine that one would walk over to where I was standing, dumbfounded, and first of all apologize for trespassing. The second sentence might be something like, "Hi, I'm Mike, and that's Bill over there by the ship." Just like that, perfect english and common American given names.
This sounds a lot like the plot line for Third Rock from the Sun. Only the names would have to be Dick, Tom, Harry and Sally. ;)
The UFO Hunter guy with the sunglasses that he never removes, even at night, gives me the willys.
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