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9:02 am
July 6, 2009


Learjet

Australia

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8bptMpkkjc

This video impresses me. Found from a link off that MJ shadow video.

It impresses me because… The camera is at high zoom which means shallow depth of field and the objects pass behind the clouds. This means the objects are not close and would not be insects or foreground objects. 

They are not flares as they move in a controlled manner.

They have me beat. Any thoughts?

OD'd on EMF

10:51 am
July 6, 2009


Wallydraigle

Ohio

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posts 114

I saw this yesterday.  I was thinking yeah yeah, more balloons until the end where all the things spread out in a straight line.  That's really the only interesting part.  I'm not sure it wasn't still just balloons, but it would be hard to get them to do that.  I can think of one way that might work and wouldn't be too terribly difficult to prepare.  If you had a bunch of small ballons all tied together in line, and then tape all the balloons together into a more or less ball shape, and then sent them up like that, it might do it.  Once one of the balloons came loose, a strong wind could catch it and pull off another and another from the mass.  With each new balloon that came loose there would be more surface area and it would come apart faster and faster.  Since they're all tied together in a line, a stiff wind might blow them out straight like that.  Would something like this actually look like that once released?  I don't know, but it's at least plausible, and seems as likely as an alien starship anyway.

11:08 am
July 6, 2009


alicat

Lead Investigator

posts 1215

Possibly weather balloon.  Here's a link to one.  Click on the blue wording "upper air balloons" in the second paragraph.  NOAA has a number of different types/styles.

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/fsd/science/upper.php

8:18 pm
July 6, 2009


Learjet

Australia

Lead Investigator

posts 1122

Not sure how taped balloons would separate to the right and then to the left with wind, then do a little dance above and around each other like that. 

A radiosonde just drops. It's not usually controllable and just drifts with the wind.

I've observed a few weather balloons, and for hobby number 1361 used to launch my own with radio packages on board for wind and temperature analysis. None of mine ever moved like that.

I'm not saying they are alien spaceships. It could be some military or civilian science experiment, but it's a very unconventional one.

OD'd on EMF

8:50 pm
July 6, 2009


Wallydraigle

Ohio

Investigator

posts 114

I wonder what are the chances that these things are being released from an airplane somehow, and the plane is just out of the frame.

Anyway, Jaime Maussan has a long history of promoting ufo hoaxes, to the point that even other ufo people keep their distance from him.  The video is interesting, but there's just no credibility here.

11:42 pm
July 6, 2009


Bobarino

Valencia, CA

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posts 181

I like the video.  

I agree there is probably a rational explanation, but I don't know what it is.  My first thought was skydivers, but the motion didn't seem right.  Same with the balloon idea.  But who knows?  

Hopefully another video will surface with a better view that can be used as a cross reference.

I've found that being AWESOME is a full time job…

6:41 am
July 10, 2009


Ian Ridpath

Investigator in Training

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I'm no expert on military aircraft so this is only a guess, but.. why couldn't it be a military helicopter releasing decoy flares as part of a training exercise?

6:56 pm
July 10, 2009


Learjet

Australia

Lead Investigator

posts 1122

G'day Ian and welcome to the forum.

I've been thinking  about the video and like yourself now think that may be a possibility. It seems odd that the flares swarm around each other though, but then I've never seen flares released in real life so maybe they do that.

If anyone in the military is reading and can confirm that would be great.

OD'd on EMF

10:42 pm
October 22, 2009


WaveyDavey

Investigator

posts 39

About the only thing that came to mind for me was odd reflections on the camera lense but there was just too much going on for random reflections to account for all of it. I also looked for anything that looked like an aricraft and couldn't see one. If something was there to be releasing these things it would have shown up before he zoomed in (while the commercial airliner was still in the frame).

A agree that when you take both the lateral and swarming motion, and the number of apparent objects,  into account this seems very odd and hard to explain conventionally.

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