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1:02 pm
June 3, 2009
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Mary
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LOL! Or, perhaps, Earth is like the pit-stop in a big intergalactic NASCAR race.
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"Quando omni flunkus moritati" ("When all else fails, play dead") – Possum Lodge motto. Jason and Grant should adopt it as their own.
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1:19 pm
June 3, 2009
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Double tap to the head. Don't become Undead.
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1:45 pm
June 3, 2009
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Mary
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"Quando omni flunkus moritati" ("When all else fails, play dead") – Possum Lodge motto. Jason and Grant should adopt it as their own.
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2:40 pm
June 3, 2009
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Double tap to the head. Don't become Undead.
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3:06 pm
June 3, 2009
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Revenant
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Mary said:
I have always been curious about the fact that these aliens are so smart and advanced that they can travel vast distances, abduct humans and do 'experiements' on them, dart around the galaxy faster than the speed of light… yet somehow manage to frequently crash their ships once they arrive over planet Earth.
Actually, I read something about this. I would link it but I don't remember where I read it.
Anyway, the theory goes something like this: The "mother ship" would be viewed something like our aircraft carriers. Since our aircraft carriers are nuclear-powered, they can travel for years and years without refueling. So the mother ship would be designed for deep space travel.
The jets on the aircraft carrier are designed differently and used in a different manner. They also have a very limited supply of fuel. The smaller ships from the mother ship would probably act in the same manner. Those smaller ships may not be exclusively designed for earths atmosphere, gravity, water, etc. thus…they crash occasionally.
Again, this is not my theory. Only from what I've read on some UFO website. I will admit, however, that it does seem logical. Again, no proof of a mother ship, smaller ships, or aliens does come into play. But the theory isn't bad though.
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3:51 pm
June 3, 2009
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Nosfer
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Revenant said:
Mary said:
I have always been curious about the fact that these aliens are so smart and advanced that they can travel vast distances, abduct humans and do 'experiements' on them, dart around the galaxy faster than the speed of light… yet somehow manage to frequently crash their ships once they arrive over planet Earth.
Actually, I read something about this. I would link it but I don't remember where I read it.
Anyway, the theory goes something like this: The "mother ship" would be viewed something like our aircraft carriers. Since our aircraft carriers are nuclear-powered, they can travel for years and years without refueling. So the mother ship would be designed for deep space travel.
The jets on the aircraft carrier are designed differently and used in a different manner. They also have a very limited supply of fuel. The smaller ships from the mother ship would probably act in the same manner. Those smaller ships may not be exclusively designed for earths atmosphere, gravity, water, etc. thus…they crash occasionally.
Again, this is not my theory. Only from what I've read on some UFO website. I will admit, however, that it does seem logical. Again, no proof of a mother ship, smaller ships, or aliens does come into play. But the theory isn't bad though.
Wasn't that part of the premise behind Independence Day? :)
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11:34 pm
June 3, 2009
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Hannah
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There are so many sites out there on UFOs, ETs, greys, MIB, alien implants, etc. I have to think that yes, there are other intelligent species in the Universe. They possibly are visiting us, perhaps even examining the life forms they find. However, when I found the sites like the ones below, I just want to bury my head in the sand.
HOW TO DESTROY PHYSICAL IMPLANTS". "DO YOU HAVE ALIEN IMPLANTS IN YOUR EARS?
http://www.metatech.org/alien_implants_remove.html
Alien Implant Removal and Deactivation Method
http://www.abduct.com/irm.php
"Alien Implants Remover utilizes the latest extraterrestrial elements detection technology to detect and remove alien implants in your body by using your iPhone."
Please, someone tell me that this is something else! Like it de-bugs your itunes.
http://download.cnet.com/Alien-Implants-Remover-Lite/3000-18551_4-10910731.html
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12:24 am
June 4, 2009
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forget answers, I want them to release the Romanek Alien video!
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12:38 am
June 4, 2009
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Revenant
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Hannah said:
However, when I found the sites like the ones below, I just want to bury my head in the sand.
Um…yeah. Right with you there. Your first link…I couldn't even get past the very first sentence:
"Many people have asked me over the years if I knew of a way to remove physical, not just etheric, implants from aliens."
I was just sitting there thinking "Um…what does ether have to do with anything?" To me…and most everyone else, etheric refers to ether, a highly flammable liquid that is derived from the distillation of ethyl alcohol with sulfuric acid and typically used as a solvent. Back in the day, it was used as an anesthetic. So I did a bit of digging.
I believe that the term is referring to "aether (which…now "can" be spelled as ether…which I don't like, but who am I?)." Aether has been a "catch-all" for centuries. It was a term used to describe "stuff" that people of a particular time period didn't quite understand. The first place that I had heard of the term was when I was reading a book discussing an historical look at alchemy. Anyway, it was also used in early modern physics as well. If any are interested, here's a brief look:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_theories
So…somewhere along the line, ufologists must have picked up this definition from some source; "An all-pervading, infinitely elastic, massless medium formerly postulated as the medium of propagation of electromagnetic waves. (dictionary.com)" and translated it to alien implants. How or when? No clue. But the "why"…I can probably answer. If the implant is etheric…then there is no mass. No mass means it can't be x-rayed. If it can't be x-rayed, it can't be proven. If it can't be proven, it must be evidence of an alien implant. So you and I can be walking around with alien etheric implants right this second…and there's no way for modern science or medicine to prove it. I'm sure Jason and Grant are quite envious of this type of ambigious evidence…
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12:49 am
June 4, 2009
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Revenant
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Nosfer said:
Revenant said:
Mary said:
I have always been curious about the fact that these aliens are so smart and advanced that they can travel vast distances, abduct humans and do 'experiements' on them, dart around the galaxy faster than the speed of light… yet somehow manage to frequently crash their ships once they arrive over planet Earth.
Actually, I read something about this. I would link it but I don't remember where I read it.
Anyway, the theory goes something like this: The "mother ship" would be viewed something like our aircraft carriers. Since our aircraft carriers are nuclear-powered, they can travel for years and years without refueling. So the mother ship would be designed for deep space travel.
The jets on the aircraft carrier are designed differently and used in a different manner. They also have a very limited supply of fuel. The smaller ships from the mother ship would probably act in the same manner. Those smaller ships may not be exclusively designed for earths atmosphere, gravity, water, etc. thus…they crash occasionally.
Again, this is not my theory. Only from what I've read on some UFO website. I will admit, however, that it does seem logical. Again, no proof of a mother ship, smaller ships, or aliens does come into play. But the theory isn't bad though.
Wasn't that part of the premise behind Independence Day? 
Yeah, Star Wars too, in a way. That's why I wanted to link the theory because it was quoted from a book written in the early '70's. Not ground-breaking or anything, I'm sure it was somewhere else in Science Fiction before that. Still, a pretty good concept as Independence Day showed…
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6:54 am
June 4, 2009
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Mary
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Alien implants? Oh, dear.
There's this theory that metal that is in close contact with alien implants prevents said implants from transmitting messages to/from the Mother Ship.
Therefore, I have decided to embark upon a new and bold business venture, to aid all Humans from being controlled by these implants. But first I must test this out….
*digs out colander from under kitchen cabinet.*
*lines colander with tinfoil*
*places tinfoil-lined colander upon head.*
Yes, I feel much better already. The strange buzzing in my brain has completely stopped. Now, if only people would stop staring at me….. (but then, they are probably jealous 'cuz their head is still transmitting)
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"Quando omni flunkus moritati" ("When all else fails, play dead") – Possum Lodge motto. Jason and Grant should adopt it as their own.
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11:44 pm
October 22, 2009
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I can't speak to why aliens would be interested in studying us but it stands to reason that if they wanted to collect information from a human "specimin", then implanting some kind of technological monitoring device might be the way to do it. I think you could draw a parallel to the marking of animals with radio tags by human researchers.
I think if you really want to investigate UFO's, or any other paranormal phenomena, including psychic ability, etc. (and not just dismiss all of it out of hand) you are going to have to get used to the "kook factor" and not be overly distracted or discouraged by it.
A lot of people hallucinating or making up B.S. either as a fun hoax or to profit from it doesn't really have any relevance to whether any of these phenomena truly exist. Anyone can make up anything. Lying about a given subject doesn't make the entire subject unreal.
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6:26 am
October 23, 2009
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Mary
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Denver ballot initiative to create an Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission
I, for one, will never ever fall for another UFO sighting over Denver. Los Angeles, perhaps. But never Denver.
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7:41 am
October 23, 2009
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Nosfer
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Mary said:
Denver ballot initiative to create an Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission
Let's see, so now we are creating a Commission to look into some of Kirk's relationships with other-worldly women? :)
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12:26 pm
October 18, 2010
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Nosfer
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Still at it:
http://www.aolnews.com/weird-news-elections/article/denver-voters-debating-proposed-et-affairs-office/19626333
Note the connection to recently podded Rocky Mountain Paranormal Research Society.
I do have to disagree with one of his (along with Baxter's) statements, though:
"Bryan Bonner, right, and Matthew Baxter oppose Initiative 300 for a variety of reasons, the main one being that they've seen no physical proof of aliens, just eyewitness reports."
Why should the fact that no physical proof has yet to be found be used as a reason not to create a commission whose intent would be to "gather the most compelling evidence regarding the existence of extraterrestrials and UFOs and put it on the city's website."
If there is no compelling evidence found during each time period…nothing has to be posted. It may not go that way, but taken by itself, I find Bonner and Baxter's reason for opposition to be quite shaky.
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2:30 am
November 10, 2010
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Revenant
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Update…
Initiative 300 was voted down by 84% of the Denver voters. The tribe has spoken…
So Captain Crazy…er…Jeff Peckman will have to wait another couple of years for his stab at a half ounce of political clout.
As for Bonner and Baxter…I'm willing to throw caution to the wind and lean towards them being misquoted. Or at the very least, their responses were shortened. I'm not saying that I don't have the utmost respect for AolNews or for the author, David Moye (who holds psychic readings for B-grade celebrities)….but…um…I don't.
Now, if you, Nosfer, are interested in a friendly debate on whether or not Initiative300 should have passed…I'd be more than willing to champion Bonner and Baxter and perhaps do better than their "shaky opposition." But before you accept, please re-read my very first post in this thread along with that link, which is still valid. You will instantly be defending 57 different species of extraterrestrial beings and over 4000 UFO landings. No seperating the "what it should be" from the crazy. You have to go "as is…"
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9:52 am
November 10, 2010
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Nosfer
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LOL, saw it was voted down, but hadn't see the percentages. It's been a while since I've read this whole thread but I do recall some of the items in it. I would be more than willing to go into a friendly debate about the concept, but one that presupposes not only the existence of life on a GIVEN extraterrestrial body, but also it's description, demeanor, and flossing habits! No, I don't think so.
However, I don't think I would be defending the 57 species and 4000 landings. A discussion of Initiative 300 in such a manner would assume that the make up of the commission would be such that it would immediately ACCEPT those reports as valid. Although, if stacked with the proponents, then it probably would.
I don't really think this would have been the way to go about such a thing and it's probably good that it got shot down. As I said above, the commission would probably have been stacked by the only ones who wanted to be on it which would be the proponents of it in the first place…thus an enormous bias from the get go.
I have no problem with an entity to be a repository or examiner of such reports but, by all that is sane, the make up of the body needs to be very carefully chosen and I doubt that would have happened in this case.
Now, if you'd like to discuss how an ideal committee or body should operate… 
There's a chance that Bonner/Baxter were misquoted, I sure hope that is the case. (I've on a few occasions not quite recognized my own words when they've shown up so it DOES happen!)
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3:14 pm
November 10, 2010
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Revenant
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Awww man…I was prepared for war.  I had Sagan quotes from a lecture of his, I had Michael Shermer quotes from his book "Why People Believe Weird Things", I had a ton of things. Heck, now I could even use Patrick's thread with Neil Tyson's Youtube clip. *sighs* Such a shame…
And speaking of a shame…I couldn't even vote against it myself. Technically, I live about a mile and a half outside of Denver. So my ballot didn't have it on it. And something tells me that if it was state wide, the 84% probably would have been much higher.
Now, if you'd like to discuss how an ideal committee or body should operate…
Um, not really, I have no problems with people looking for aliens in the private sector. Do whatever you want. But once it hits the government level, I start objecting. Plenty of arguments against it, but the one I'll go with here is the domino effect. Create a commission (committee or body, no matter how ideal) for UFO's and where does it end? Ghosts? Bigfoot? Vampires? Flying Mexican witches? If you make the exception for aliens (and lets get that out of the way…NOT Unidentified Flying Objects…we are talking ALIENS here), then suddenly there are government committee's for Ogopogo and the monster under your bed.
So I guess a better question would be…how would you limit your ideal committee or body to aliens and aliens only? How would you avoid the domino effect into craziness?
Oh…and would your ideal committee also denounce NASA and claim that they were "defrauding" the American people like Initiative 300? *shakes his head* That still gets me…
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3:41 pm
November 10, 2010
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Nosfer
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I think one way you could look at alien spaceships in a way that would differentiate them from an odd bigfoot here or there is in the potential ramifications of Contact. I suspect at some unseen level, such committees may already exist.
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