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5:13 am
April 30, 2009
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C.
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To see photos, Google: Paranormal Investigations "visitor submitted evidence"… at site, click "visitor submitted evidence" to view visual noise-reduced images (close-up and full frame) of pic our family captured Labor Day Weekend, 2008 at the Stanley Hotel – garden level. I was the biggest skeptic there is prior to this capture. Although these pics have been viewed by four independent paranormal investigators and professional photo analysts, the jury is still out about WHAT it is. Two paranormal investigators (neither in contact with the other) and photo experts from CA said it is a "non-human entity." I had never heard that term before this pic. One said it is F.O. Stanley, himself…and one refers to the pic as matrixing (where the eyes interpret something the brain will recognize?) I was actually relieved to hear about the matrixing possibility. After looking at this pic a while, I could even see what appears to be another face to the right of the entity (as you are facing him.) It appears to be a man, smiling…(he's further back from the entity.) No matter WHAT it is, it is definitely an interesting shot. Also, if you click on the full-frame shot it will give you a full body pic of this thing. See if YOU also see the "boots" lighting on the retention wall. Again, if it IS matrixing…I think it is a pretty good example…
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6:02 am
April 30, 2009
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Wes
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First, the image is here:
https://sites.google.com/site/paranormalinvestigationsspook/Home/visitor-submitted-evidence
Second, I seriously doubt a "professional photo analyst" would say they couldn't explain that in a fuzzy, out-of-focus, low res photo taken in the dark that you can "see" all sorts of things in the patterns of light and dark.
Sorry, but to say that it is, in fact, a giant monkey head, or a "non human entity" is just the kind of ridiculous claims that give paranormal research such a bad reputation.
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"The truth shall bear all light."
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6:45 am
April 30, 2009
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C.
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I am glad that doubt about the pic is strong; I really want it to be debunked. It will, once again, allow me to doubt anything paranormal.
Thanks for your view…
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7:07 am
April 30, 2009
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Oubliette
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I agree about the head looking like a monkey. Frankly I don't see anything paranormal in any of the photos that a true expert, esp. one from any of the major camera manufacturers, couldn't explain. But it's still interesting to see these pics. I'm afraid the search for a true ghost photograph continues. Thanks, C, for posting this. This whole subject would make for a good discussion.
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If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
Anatole France
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7:29 am
April 30, 2009
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C.
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Thanks for the comment. All I can say is, it really helps to be skeptical when approaching anything relating to the paranormal…our family was there to decompress that weekend. We enjoyed the stay and thought if we found an "orb" or something, it would be "fun." Finding the weird picture, and yeah it was even blurrier in the original shot, we assumed it was another rock formation back there and didn't zoom into that spot for a month or so. When we did finally zoom in, we thought the image would look more and more distorted, when, in fact, it looked more and more like a "face"…The original seems to even show "whites of eyes"… Honestly, I wish the picture had never been taken. Since we are going to be in the area, soon, we are planning to try and debunk the image on our own. Try and steady the same shot with similar lighting, if possible and get the same thing. Film at 11 …
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8:11 am
April 30, 2009
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Queen of the Nerds
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Let us know what you see in the bushes when you go back. I am curious to see if you can debunk it. Who knows, maybe a monkey lives at the hotel, lol. If not, you may have caught a monkey ghost, which may be a first.
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If you believe in telekinesis, raise my hands.
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8:12 am
April 30, 2009
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Wes
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C. – I'd actually suggest taking a picture from the same location in the daylight to get a clearer view of what's back there — but depending on the lighting, the camera, the angles, the weather, etc. you might never get a shot exactly the same – under poor light conditions, even the slightest movement of the camera or other factors can dramatically change the resulting image. Good luck.
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8:46 am
April 30, 2009
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Learjet
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I'm afraid I also agree that the pictures are quite explainable. Matrixing and dust. The dust orb in the cemetery is interesting because it's uncommon to image dust in daylight without flash. Never the less, it's translucent, has chromatic aberration and the general appearance is that of dust inside focus, as is the first pic.
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9:06 am
April 30, 2009
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C.
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Wes, good suggestion! We will do that as well…thanks for the comments everyone…this website is amazing…
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3:48 pm
April 30, 2009
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Revenant
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Yes, I too must throw the card of doubt into the hat of skepticism concerning the photo. The picture is curious, but I do not believe it to be paranormal. After reading the posts by Wes and Learjet, I'm going with the tried and true "yeah, what they said."
I'm not all that far away from the Stanley Hotel. Maybe over the summer some time I'll spend a weekend there. I can do some investigating at the bar… 
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"Skepticism is not a position, it's a process." -Dr Michael Shermer
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4:47 pm
April 30, 2009
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C.
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Keep 'um comin'…the more doubt I read/hear, the better I feel and the easier it will be to go back to the Stanley. I am pretty sure now that I can "breathe" better and so enjoy our next stay. (I'm a skeptic, but still open minded to the possibility of capturing "something" especially since this pic appeared…remember I WANT TO DEBUNK THIS THING)… If we catch this "thing" in any of our next group of pictures anywhere ELSE on the Stanley property…well…(gulp) IT WILL BE THE LAST TIME WE/I GO THERE….lol…
Seriously, though, thank you to everyone who has responded; it really has helped me. My hope is that NONE of the new Stanley pics will reflect so much as a piece of lint flying off a sweater; the more mundane the happier I will be… :) To those who would like to make a capture…be careful what you wish…even if it IS some form of matrixing…proof can be what your MIND wants to believe.
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12:45 pm
May 1, 2009
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Nosfer
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I'm going to throw my hat into the matrixing ring, too. I'm going to be at the Stanley in late May so may have to try to recreate the photo myself…heck, why not if I'm there!
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1:26 pm
May 1, 2009
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C.
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LOL…I'll probably see you there, then. We are going to be at the Stanley during the end of May as well. Even scheduled to do the ghost tour this time…you saw what happened last time when we ventured out on our own…
Thanks for your response.
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5:52 am
May 20, 2009
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Nosfer
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The "Face" is on a rock on the terrace. There are some surface features on it that under night time conditions might be enhanced to bring out more of them, but in daylight it doesn't resemble a face at all unless you really let your mind wander. In daylight I can make out the eyes and mouth feature because I know they are there in the night time shot. Not sure I'll be able to duplicate the night time shot but I may be able to try to mimic it with exposure settings.
Conditions weren't very good for photography, but here is a daylight shot reduced to about the same size as the one posted for comparison to see what was really around. I had to go from memory but I tried to duplicate the angle etc as much as I could:
Stanley Garden
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6:42 am
May 20, 2009
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Great shot Nosfer. Just realized you said you were heading that way at the end of May. Had a chance to compare the photos and can see what you are talking about. Hope you are having a great time. Enjoy your visit!
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6:44 am
May 20, 2009
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C.
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Thanks a ton for the pic. We didn't have a picture that showed that specific area during the day, since we didn't discover our "captured" matrix until a month later. You have NO idea how happy this makes me feel. I can't wait to check it out; trying to duplicate the image, etc. It is amazing that the rock formation is as large as it is; I wasn't sure there was a rock formation in that area at all before seeing your picture. Good job!!
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