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11:50 am March 13, 2009
| accidentaltraveler
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I discovered this site yesterday and I must say that I'm absolutely enjoying everyone's stories! I appreciate the skeptical approach that all of you take. Like many of you have shared, I WANT to believe… but I have never yet seen anything that leaves me believing. The story I'm about to share, though, is odd.
I got married in April of 2007 and my husband and I went on a roadtrip for our honeymoon. We didn't have any particular plan in mind – we just drove until something caught our interest. Our first stop happened to be Gettysburg.
We arrived in the evening and spent the first night wandering around the town and had dinner. The next day we toured the battlefields then had lunch at the Farnsworth House. We were the only diners so we ate at the bar. The bartender gave us a complimentary bottle of champagne to celebrate our wedding and we chatted for an hour or two. She told us dozens of tales of supernatural experiences around Gettyburg and at the Farnsworth house. It was an entertaining afternoon and she pursuaded us to return that evening for a ghost tour. Neither my husband nor I have a strong interest in ghosts – I've only seen one or two episodes of ghost hunters or the other ghostly shows that are on – but the afternoon had been so enjoyable, that we decided to that we would go on the tour.
The bottle of champagne and the morning hike around the battlefied had left us a little sleepy, so we returned to our bed and breakfast for an afternoon nap. A few hours later we woke up, dressed for the evening and went on our tour of the Farnsworth house.
We were the only people on the tour. It was fun. We got to tour the rooms, hear ghost stories, and visit the battlefield across the street. We obviously had lots of attention from the two tour guides. We were disappointed not to see anything paranormal, but enjoyed the history. The tour guide suggested that we return to the battlefield by moonlight to see if we had any better luck.
We had dinner, then did return to the battlefield. We walked up and down the field a few times and noticed some flashes of light in the woods. We jokingly said that there were 'ghost soldiers' shooting at us. Although there were few tourists around, we figured it was someone with a camera snapping pictures in the woods.
We walked back to the bed and breakfast. As I was undressing for bed my husband asked, in sudden shock, "Were you playing paintball?". I really had no idea what he was getting at…. (I've never even thought about playing paintball). I replied, "Sure, the bridesmaids and I played a round on the way to the wedding ceremony". He was looking at me so strangely that I stopped kidding with him and asked more seriously, "Why, what's wrong?" He spun me around to face the mirror and I saw that the side of my body was covered with round bruises. We counted 18 of them spread from my mid-thigh, up my hip, and stopping a few inches below my armpit. Each bruise was light blue to light purple in color and just a bit larger than a quarter. They were not painful.
He assured me that there had been no signs of the bruising during our nap several hours earlier – and I certainly hadn't seen them before. The bruised darkened to black smudges over the next several days, then faded out the way bruises typically do – green, then yellow, then faded away entirely.
In retrospect, we should have taken a picture, but all you would have seen were round bruises (and some parts of me that I prefer not to photograph).
To this day I have no idea what caused the bruising. When it crosses my mind, I try to see if I can find something that I might bump into repeatedly on that side (the corner of a table, the gear shift in the car, whatever). The corner of a table might leave a bruise like that, but to leave 18 over a widespread area? That's a bit challenging to believe. I've even tried to google various bug bites, but have had no luck.
If anyone has a clever idea that might explain this, I would love to hear it. If you don't have any thoughts, I hope that you enjoyed the story! In the meantime, I have to just assume that I somehow hurt myself without noticing. But sometimes I remember the flashing lights and our jokes about the 'ghost bullets'…
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12:18 pm March 13, 2009
| Hannah
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Thank you for sharing your story. Very interesting, and no, I do not have a clue as to your bruising. Would think that getting 18 individual bruises (and from the color all obtained in small timeframe) would have joggled your memory. One or two could be passed off, as we all find bruises from time to time and can't remember how they were obtained.
There have been many, many unexplained events in and around the Gettysburg battlefields. Quite a few of them come from folks who have no particular interest in the paranormal, which somehow, I find more intriguing.
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1:41 pm March 13, 2009
| Queen of the Nerds
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How tight was your wedding dress? Did it have buttons where the bruises were?
I went out one night wearing a corset and I had bruises all over from it…. guess after a few drinks it got a little tight, haha.
That is the only explanation I can think of.
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1:49 pm March 13, 2009
| Wallydraigle
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This is completely nasty, but there's no way they were bed bug bites, it there? They can leave some nasty welts that can turn into bruises. That's the first thing I thought of because you were staying somewhere.
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1:53 pm March 13, 2009
| accidentaltraveler
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Queen of the Nerds said:
How tight was your wedding dress? Did it have buttons where the bruises were?
I went out one night wearing a corset and I had bruises all over from it…. guess after a few drinks it got a little tight, haha.
That is the only explanation I can think of.
LOL….Good questions :-) The dress was form fitting, but not tight – the skirt was full. I was wearing an undergarment, but I've worn it quite a few times since then, with no bruising. And it only came down to my waist.
That's funny about your corset
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2:06 pm March 13, 2009
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Wallydraigle said:
This is completely nasty, but there's no way they were bed bug bites, it there? They can leave some nasty welts that can turn into bruises. That's the first thing I thought of because you were staying somewhere.
I really, really liked your suggestion. So much that I just googled bed bug bites and have looked at several dozen pictures. Pretty gross. After looking at the pictures and reading a few descriptions, I don't think it's likely that they were bed bug bites. Looking at the pictures really made me itchy though….
In my particular case there was no swelling, lumpiness, or other textural change to the skin. Unless you or anyone can find a link to a bed bug bite picture that looks like a round bruise?
Thanks for the suggestion, though. I breathed a sigh of relief when I first read it!
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8:44 pm March 13, 2009
| Wallydraigle
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I'd take ghosts over bed bugs any day, so I'm glad it wasn't that.
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2:03 am March 14, 2009
| Revenant
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Very well written story and welcome to the board. 
The first thing that came to mind was a possible allergic reaction to something. Bruising can occur in some cases. You said that you took a "roadtrip" to get to Gettysburg. Perhaps its possible that you ate something there that you had never had before. Maybe by itself, or in combination with any medication that you may have taken (aspirin, whatever…) caused the allergic reaction.
Think back. Did they feature local produce? Did you eat anything that they are "famous" for, you know, using the old family secret recipe? Did you drink anything that you never have before?
Oh, and never let it be said that we aren't a helpful bunch…maybe you can find the answer here as well:
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/sym/bruising.htm
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9:25 am March 14, 2009
| Oubliette
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It does appear that bruising can have many sources. I develop mystery ones as well, but never to that extent.
Kind of makes me think about the weird happenings at the Black Mausoleum/Covenanters Prison in Edinburgh. Only it's not just bruising that shows up, but a lot of weird scratches, redness etc. Almost makes me feel that there is some kind of energy source there that is inadvertently zapping people.
Were the bruises in a somewhat straight line? If so, it might point to some kind of neurological response, but to what, I couldn't say though Revenant has some good suggestions. I cannot eat raw or fried onions. If I do, I break out in round red spots that follow my spine so closely you can count the vertebrae!
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If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
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9:12 pm March 17, 2009
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Thanks for the suggestions. Now, not only am I a skeptic, I'm also a hypochondriac! LOL….
But seriously, I've put some thought into what I may have eaten or drank that was unsusual and haven't come up with anything. Since it was the first day of our honeymoon and we were taking pictures of everything, I know exactly what I ate. Nothing unusual. Additionally, I've never experienced an allergic reaction before, so I know I'm not particularly susceptible to them (neither are my sisters, parents, or grandparents – all allergy free.) At the inn where we had lunch, I had corn chowder and a few bites of my husband's chicken pot pie. Since that was the last meal I ate before noticing the bruising, it was the most suspect. It's possible that there was something in the meal that I reacted to, but it would have had to have been a very unusual ingredient.
The website, wrongdiagnosis.com, was alarming! There were a few diagnosis that might explain bruising of the type that I experienced. Most of them would place me near death, unfortunately. And nothing sounded exactly like the very ordinary appearing bruising that I saw. (Most diagnosis included descriptions of much smaller purplish marks, marks covered with dry or flaking skin, elevations, or something much more long term.)
One diagnosis that did seem possible was anemia, though. I don't really meet the criteria, but it could cause easy bruising… I've been observant in the last few days and don't notice any unexplained bruising, normally. My cuts also heal with reasonable speed and no excessive bleeding. However, it's possible that I was experiencing some type of mild/temporary anemia right before the wedding. I wasn't starving myself or anything, but it's possible that I was missing a few meals as the last minute preparations were taking place. It still doesn't explain what I might have been bumping so frequently, though.
To answer a few other specific questions you asked: I wasn't on medication of any kind. -and- the bruising was scattered. Some of the circles were close together, in a cluster, some were more distant. Completeley irregular in pattern. Scattered would be the most appropriate word.
"Kind of makes me think about the weird happenings at the Black Mausoleum/Covenanters Prison in Edinburgh. Only it's not just bruising that shows up, but a lot of weird scratches, redness etc. Almost makes me feel that there is some kind of energy source there that is inadvertently zapping people."
I've never heard of this before, Oubliette. I had no redness or scratching. In fact, I wasn't even sure if my 'experience' was similar to any other supernatural/paranormal stories that are out there. It was only the flashes of light on the battlefield and the similarity to paint ball bruising (along with the ghost tour!) that even put us in that mindset. It was weird and it makes an interesting story…. but can "ghosts" bruise people?
Has anyone heard of bruising actually related to a paranormal event/haunted battlefield/or whatever?
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12:15 am March 20, 2009
| Revenant
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accidentaltraveler said:
I've never heard of this before, Oubliette. I had no redness or scratching. In fact, I wasn't even sure if my 'experience' was similar to any other supernatural/paranormal stories that are out there. It was only the flashes of light on the battlefield and the similarity to paint ball bruising (along with the ghost tour!) that even put us in that mindset. It was weird and it makes an interesting story…. but can "ghosts" bruise people?
Has anyone heard of bruising actually related to a paranormal event/haunted battlefield/or whatever?
Your experience was very interesting indeed. I'm glad you came here to share it.
Can "ghosts" bruise people? Hmmm…that is a very tricky and very loaded question, especially around these parts… We would first have to define what a "ghost" is, agree upon what a ghost can and cannot do and then supply scientific evidence to support it. I think the heart of the problem is the type and level of evidence needed in order for one to "believe." So, I can not honestly answer that question since I personally have not found the type of evidence that I need to believe in this aspect of the paranormal.
However, I did scan the web and found many experiences relating ghosts, Gettysburg and bruising. Unforunately, I did encounter a few problems. First, many of the links just didn't work. Second, some of those paranormal sites simply list everything they have on one "page" of the website, hence, the page is unbelievably long and nearly impossible to find what you need quickly. And lastly, I had about 8 different websites up, didn't bookmark anything, and then my computer crashed for some weird reason…so I lost everything. And I am infinitely too lazy to do it again. Sorry about that…
But…at least, apparently, you are not alone concerning your experience. The reports that I read really only mentioned one or two bruises, yet, it is a similar result. If you wish to search on your own, simply plug in "Ghosts, Gettysburg, Bruises" in any decent search engine…and then be patient. Like I said, many of the links don't seem to work or they have long load times. Perhaps reading through a few of these experiences from other people may help to shed a bit more light on what you experienced.
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10:15 am March 20, 2009
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http://www.ghoststudy.com/ghost_story_carolyn.html
http://gateway.bigforumpro.com/haunted-locations-f25/gettysburgoct-29th1999-t262.htm
I did as you suggested and googled "ghost bruise gettysburg". The links above were the first two hits that I got. It sounds like other people have experienced unexplained bruising while or after walking the battlefields. These experiences, however, are much more dramatic and more painful than mine!
Deep down, I feel that I must have somehow bumped something repeatedly. I can't imagine what it could be – I've thought about it extensively. But what other possiblity is there?
I could speculate that there is some type of 'energy' remaining at Gettysburg and that the quantum particles within the air still vibrate with the memory of whizzing bullets, leaving people injured as a result. But if this were true, wouldn't people be getting hit with phantom baseballs at old stadiums?
One of the articles above refers to a 'tear' in space-time (or a curtain lifting or some similar concept) and a confederate soldier 'shooting' at her from the other side. How could this be demonstrated, though? It's certainly not a simple answer. If I'm to accept that, I might as well go really wild and surmise that there is some type of unknown element within the ground of Gettysburg (possibly deposited by aliens and aggravated by the great battle) that breaks blood vessels in the skin of certain individuals leading to bruising…
Although I am not completely satisfied with the notion that I was bouncing off a wall or something without noticing, it's much more plausible than anything else. It would be exciting to have a genuine ghost story, but I don't suppose that this meets the criteria. At least I have a good story to share at parties when everyone start talking about psychic dreams, haunted houses, and conversations with their dead grandmother. Told with a properly mysterious tone, this story leaves people wondering!
Thanks for all of the insights and suggestions that everyone has shared! If you have any other thoughts, I would be very happy to read them!
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8:10 pm March 28, 2009
| Liz M
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Was the bed lumpy? I have gotten bruises from pressure points – my brother's cat to be exact. The cat is not actually heavy, he just manages to concentrate 10 times his body weight into his paws. I spent one night at the apartment and had bruises on my lap (where he sat) and on my hip (where he slept).
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6:36 am March 29, 2009
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I doubt that anything at Gettysburg produced those bruises other than a minor bump if that. Not to alarm you but I would seriously discuss the bruising with a physician. There are a number of reasons for the amount of bruises appearing. As we age, bruising is more common and there are many medicines (prescription or over the counter) which interefere with blood clotting, such as ibuprofen, naproxen and even asprin. There are also prescripton meds that cause bruising due to incorrect dosage.
Bottom line, even though it may have been awhile ago when you were visiting Gettysburg, I would see your physician as a precaution to make sure there is not an underlying medical problem as I am fairly certain it has absolutely nothing to do with your trip.
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7:13 am March 30, 2009
| Oubliette
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Just as an FYI to the original poster, here is a website showing injuries sustained by people in Edinburgh's Black Mausoleum. Of particular interest to accidentaltraveler might be the second and third ones in the left hand column, which shows bruising that appeared the next day:
http://www.thepoltergeist.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=2
Of course, there are logical explanations, esp. for the bruising, but it is something to ponder. Especially when the other photos show some very strange injuries indeed.
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If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
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10:38 pm July 15, 2009
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This may sound like an overly simple explanation (and I hope I don't get banned from the boards for this), but 1) you were on your honey moon 2) most honeymooning couples are very "amorous" on their honeymoons.
In essence, during a passionate encounter, is it possible that your husband left bruises from grabbing you firmly on the thighs, hips and waist? Just a suggestion (and a wink ).
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