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1:38 pm September 22, 2009
| Angelayo1970
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I have hesitated to post this experience because the very few people I have shared it with have all thought I was either crazy or dreaming when it happened. However, after spending some time on this board and seeing how respectful everyone is toward one another, for the most part, I feel comfortable in hearing what others' have to say.
My husband is a First Lieutenant in the US Army. He was a platoon leader, leading convoys on recon missions out of Base Anaconda in Iraq from January through November of 2008. Being a military wife, I've gotten used to deployments and separations and, while they are never easy, they are par for the course. I'm also not one to worry much about my husband when he is deployed. I know how seriously he takes his training, and how important the safety of his platoon is to him, so I subscribe to the "let go and let God" school of thought.
One night in April, I went to bed earlier than usual because I thought I might be coming down with something. I just wasn't feeling "right". I had no sooner lay down and set the sleep timer on my bedroom television when my ears started ringing so loud that I couldn't hear the sound from the program I was watching. As I lay there, I started hearing, through the ringing, the sound of an explosion, mens' voices yelling, the squawk of a radio and gun fire. Then, as suddenly as it had begun, it stopped and I was again able to hear the dulcet tones of Bill Cosby on Nick at Nite.
I was so disturbed by this that I grabbed my journal and wrote this down, noting the time and date that it occurred. A few days later, I got an e-mail from my husband telling me that, while on a routine mission, his convoy was hit by an IED and they had begun taking fire from insurgents in the area. They returned fire and were able to get out of the area. Luckily, no one in the platoon was killed or even injured in the exchange.
I replied to him, asking when this had happened. Judging by the time and date of the incident, I was "hearing" it happen as it was taking place! My husband, a pretty firm skeptic, explained the incident this way: "Honey, you always could read my mind so I'm not surprised at all!"
Has anything like this ever happened to anyone else?
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"In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." -Galileo Galilei
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4:36 pm September 22, 2009
| Paul Anthony
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Coincidence
Coincidences happen in everyone's life. Have you ever heard anyone say they were thinking of a friend they have not seen in years only to have them call on the phone moments later. What these events have in common is our human desire to explain them, a belief that there is a special reason things happen the way they do. What most people do not know or do not want to believe is that coincidences, even remarkable ones, are not all that surprising. In fact most are inevitable occurrences with no special significance at all.
There are many simple reasons why most people misinterpret coincidences.
Humans have a poor innate grasp of probability.
We believe that all effects must have deliberate causes.
We do not understand a Coincidence
We easily succumb to selective validation—the tendency to remember only positive correlations and forget the far more numerous misses. A poor understanding of probability and statistics, common in our society, causes people to be more amazed than they should be when confronted with coincidences. when this does occur we jump to a metaphysical explanation. Dramatic experiences tend to be remembered more than others.
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9:08 pm September 22, 2009
| Stephen
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Angelayo– thanks for your story, and thanks to you and your husband to your services to the country.
Would you be willing to post an exact transcription of what you wrote in your diary?
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6:09 am September 23, 2009
| Angelayo1970
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Sure Stephen, I'd be happy to do that. I am at work now (working very hard, as you all can see! LOL) but as soon as I get home I will post my journal entry.
And Paul, I understand that it could very easily be a coincidence. I'm just not certain that it really was, it was far too vivid and matched too closely the description of the incident that my husband emailed me. I will also post his email of the incident, with names removed for privacy, of course.
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"In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." -Galileo Galilei
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4:59 pm September 23, 2009
| Angelayo1970
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Okay, here is what I wrote in my journal (and please excuse the grammar and punctuation; I'm copying this down verbatim and it was late and I was tired!):
April 23, 2008
It's 10:48 PM and I just had THE WEIRDEST experience! I just laid down to go to sleep and I started hearing a ringing sound in my ears that was so loud it drowned out the TV. I started to sit up but I felt really dizzy and I started to think I was coming down with —–'s flu since I spent the day with her right before she got sick! So anyhoo…i'm laying here waiting for this ringing to stop and I start thinkin' I'm hearing voices and it sounds like men screaming and yelling. I can also hear what sounds like a walky or a radio. there's a loud sound almost like an explosion and I'm hearing popping noises, and all the time i'm still hearing the voices but i can't make out words, just voices. then i'm hearing this "thunk thunk thunk" noise which sounds like the heavy artillery when they're on the range or blowing crud up at Camp ——-. Like a 50 cal. that's what it sounds like. then, all of a sudden, as quick as it starts, it just stops.
Okay, so i know that i'm probably having one of those waking dreams and subconsciously i'm just worrying about K—- being safe over there but wow! That was freakin' WEIRD!! Wonder if I should tell him about it next time he calls or if he'll think i'm being silly?
Okay that's what I wrote immediately after it happened. Now, here is the email I got from him 3 days later, copied and pasted:
Hey baby I miss you. I'm working my ass off over here and it's been really frickin' hot (no crud huh? lol) every day. How are the kids? Tell A—— I got her picture and card that she made me and I hung it up in my office in the motor pool. Tell D—- I wear my guardian angel pin under the brim of my cover and of course, I wear the St. Christopher that you got me in Savannah.
Speaking of St. Chris, I think he came in handy a couple days ago. I wanted to tell you before A—- or C—– hear it from J— or D— and tell you and then you think I'm keeping things from you (i know how you are about that! lol)
So we're coming back from a routine patrol the other morning and it was really quiet. I was in the third vehicle (cuz you know Sgt. J——- won't let me ride up front cuz i'm an ossifer…lmao!!) and all of a sudden there's dirt and sand flying everywhere and Sgt. B—–'s vehicle right in front of mine starts weaving. Someone yells "F— they just got hit!" and I'm thinking oh crud…so I'm on the radio and J—-'s yelling at everyone to get ready for some action. (you know how he is…like a kid in a big candy store when the crud hits the fan! lol)
Well, next thing you know we're taking fire from a compound that i swear we've driven by 100 times in the last couple months and never saw anything but goats (or girlfriends as B—— calls 'em…lol). So we're returning fire and next thing you know Spc. E—- (he was my gunner on this mission) kind of slumps down and I'm like "OH F— HE GOT HIT" but he just took a bullet in the helmet and it dazed him. So we get Spc. R——– up there in his place and E—- is kind of freaked but he's alright, now he's just pissed off about his helmet. LOL so…long story short, everyone was okay. The vehicle tire was blown but no one was hurt. Couple of guys in the vehicle got bruised up a little but the only real casualty of the day was E—-'s helmet! LOL
Well, I love you and I think about you all the time. Gotta go write an op order before Maj. C— rips my ass off and hands it back to me! LOL Tell the yahoos I love em and i bought em something at a street market that i think they'll like. Tell E—- to tell the kids at church thanks for the candy, the kids over here love it and now when they see us coming they chase us for candy! LOL hope to call you soon, i miss your voice.
So….what do you think. Crazy? That's what pretty much everyone I've told about this tells me but I know what happened and I really think I was experiencing what he went through at the time.
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5:04 pm September 23, 2009
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I differ from Paul in the fact that I don't believe in coincidences. I'm sorry, and I realize that some people on here will just think I'm odd, but I really think that there is always a reason behind things, even the small, everyday things, and I think that some people are connected in ways that are not understandable. If twins that are apart can have the same illness at the same time, or a mother can sense that her child is in danger, than why can't you sense when your husbands in danger?
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Ghost, n. The outward and visible sign of an inward fear.
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5:19 pm September 23, 2009
| Angelayo1970
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Thanks Drache. People in my family tease my husband and I that when we are together we are lost in our own little world, and we are always finishing each others' sentences, etc. I really feel like he is my other half in the truest sense of the word so it's not really at all surprising to me that I would be able to sense that he was going through a very highly charged experience.
When I was pregnant with our second child he was in Japan when I went into labor (one month early I might add!) He knew immediately that I was in labor! So this isn't the first time he and I have had "telepathic" moments.
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10:59 pm September 23, 2009
| Stephen
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Angelayo1970– that's a wonderful account, with or without the paranormal. :) I hope your husband stays safe. I really appreciate you transcribing both your diary and his letter.
Let me put my Cold-Hearted Skeptic hat on for just a second. Paul Anthony is right; coincidences do happen, and humans are pattern-seeking creatures. On one hand, the diary and the letter match really well. On the other hand, there's nothing in either one that is quite proof of psychic phenomena. (Nor did you claim there was.) On yet a third hand, or perhaps a foot, there's nothing in there to indicate that you're crazy. People do have this kind of experience from time to time– the paranormal literature is crawling with it. Is it proof of anomalous information transfer? Well, it doesn't prove it to me, but I can't say that it's not.
In this case, I'm happy to shrug and call it a matter of belief and a great true story.
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6:02 am September 24, 2009
| Angelayo1970
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Thanks Stephen. That's the greatest response I've gotten from anyone that I've told! :) And I do agree it's probably not "paranormal" per se; I do think when you are as attuned to someone as he and I are to one another that it's not unusual to (for lack of a better way of putting it) "read" each others' thoughts and experiences. That's the best explanation I can come up with anyway. And thanks for the "not crazy" thing, though I suppose there are worse things I could be accused of being! LOL
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6:57 am September 24, 2009
| TasCat
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We also have to remember the connection that identical twins have had, they are so close on a personal level (from inventing twin-speak, a private language ((kind of portrayed in the movie "Nell" with Jodie Foster, but that could have also been the isolation, plus twin-speak, but that was just a movie), to finishing each other's sentences and knowing when the other one is in trouble or even labor)). One example is one twin may go to the hospital with pain in a specific region, but nothing is found, but later finds out that the other twin was in a car accident or suffered some other trauma to that specific region at the same time.
Perhaps Angelayo73 and her husband are bound by such a close bond, that they are experiencing this same phenomenon, which has actually been studied by science with twins. I believe, but cannot say for sure, that the results were beyond the range of coincidence. I just woke up, so would have to do some web research on that topic, but just an idea.
There are actual psychic experiences out there, I'm not talking about Jean Dixon or John Coffey and especially not the hood-winkers who read human reaction and say they are talking to dead relatives. I even wrote in my short blog that I thought the Coffey guy and the show Psychic Kids was close to child exploitation, especially with the younger ones. But that's a touchy subject with me and off topic.
I do think that it's possible that two people on such a personal level can experience these things, just like some twins do, but that's just me, for such a vivid experience and documentation on to date and time (Why wouldn't she just be thinking of her husband on patrol? Instead of the full auditory experience? Or some other thing her husband might be doing while on duty? Sure, it could be because she is worrying about him constantly, but it was a specific auditory experience at approximately the same time her husband's patrol came under attack.)
Angelayo, have you had auditory experiences before? If not, this is significant and should be considered. I'm with Drache Frau on this one, even Sammy Hagar had a paranormal experience of the Ghostly Kind, of his father knocking on his apt. door (before he was really famous and living in San Francisco), his father was an alcoholic and Sammy really thought he had somehow made it up from the town he lived in, (not San Francisco) and was drunk, Sammy was annoyed and wouldn't let him in the apt. I believe his father tried twice, not speaking, with Sammy telling him to come back at a reasonable time. Then in the morning, he got a phone call telling him of his father's passing during the night (in the other town), he felt he came to say goodbye, and regretted not letting him in the apt. There are many stories like this, one involving a Titanic passenger I believe, but may be urban legend. But I don't believe Sammy had a reason to lie, this was after he got famous when he recounted the story, and took the risk of people thinking he's a crackpot.
So I would think that you and your husband are truly connected, at the heart and spiritually (I can't think of a better word at the moment) and are blessed to have found each other. Awww, shucks, if all of us couldn't be so lucky! No, I'm not a romantic…..lol.
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