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5:40 am
September 11, 2010


mike10

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I work at  Napa State Hospital, Napa Ca. We hear what sounds like someone walking though the office with Highheel shoes. The Individuals that live here complain about the sound keeping them awake at night. Some even thought there were offices above their bed rooms. There is not. The sound comes at no certin time of  just random. We have no explanation.  

9:16 am
September 11, 2010


Revenant

Hopelessly Locked In A "Fear Cage"

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Hello Mike10.  Ok…let's take a stab at this…

Napa…wine country.  Great wines from the region.  That's the first thing that jumped out at me.  The second thing…"keeping them awake at night."  So…step one…check the pipes and air ducts.  In Napa, it can be very warm during the day but once the sun goes down, the temperature can really drop.  This drastic change in temperature can really play havoc with poorly installed pipes and/or heating/air ducts.  Because of the mountains, the same kind of thing can happen here in Denver.  Sometimes, when it gets really cold, it can sound like someone is literally knocking on the outside of my bedroom wall.  It's just a pipe.  (…or is it?  Surprised  Laughing  )

To narrow it down, have people write down the time of day, the direction of the "footsteps," the approximate distance, and the general temperature outside.  From this, you can perhaps localize the events and learn a bit more about the conditions that it's happening in.  This could lead you to a definite answer.

At the very least, it's a starting point.  It would also provide us with a bit more information in which someone else might come with another possibility.  Good luck.  Smile

"Skepticism is not a position, it's a process." -Dr Michael Shermer

3:46 pm
September 11, 2010


mike10

Investigator in Training

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I have heard the ( footsteps) at 5:30 in the afternoon, 9:30Pm and around 2:00AM. The unit has to be fairly quiet. At 5:30PM everyone is off the unit. By 9:00PM most Individuals are in bed. The sound is only heard down one hallway. I would guess about 50 feet long, and the nursing station.  Thursday 9/9/10, a RN and I was in the nursing station ( office ) and it sounded like someone in Highheels walked past us.

When a Individual complained about the noise once. I went to the unit upstairs to see what the staff were wearing for shoes. All sneekers. Individuals are not allowed to have hard sole shoes. There is a unit identical to ours above us. We hear noise from up there, but can easly tell what it is. The building was built in the 1940's everything is old. It has a closed heating and cooling system. No windows can be opened anymore. The system for heating and cooling is not a good match for the old building. Sucktion and winds are created when doors are opened and closed inside the building. The clicking sound of the Highheels (or whatever) is just so out of place. I will try and document more info. But how to separate old building noise from ghost noise is the problem.

5:45 pm
September 11, 2010


Nosfer

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How consistent are the noises nightwise…are they every night but at random times or are they random nights at random times. How often (how many nights) between occurrences?

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5:10 am
September 22, 2010


mike10

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All random times and days. I was off work for a while just got back today. No heel noise tonight. 

11:32 pm
September 29, 2010


mike10

Investigator in Training

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Report of High Heel sound at 10:30 by 2 staff. Also 1 Individual. lasted approx 20 to 30 seconds. Same area.

6:58 am
September 30, 2010


Nosfer

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I'd suggest keeping a log of where and when and by who and for how long and see if any patterns emerge. You might need to do it for a while to see if there is any long term pattern, too. Temperature was also mentioned above, that would be good to include as well.

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7:03 am
September 30, 2010


Orion

The Mundane Plane

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Can you try to record the sound with your best recorder?

Having lived in the semi-finished attic in my parent's house when I was a teen, I am very familiar with thermal sounds – when the heater would kick in in the winter (hot water pipes->radiators), it sounded like a construction site up there at night:  loud knocks, pings,  creaks, you name it.. Usually each class of sound was grouped together in in a cluster of knocks, or a group of pings,  and often they would start at say, 1 second apart, and gradually increase in frequency to maybe 1/4 second apart (in a single cluster) until the noise stopped, maybe re-ocurring 10 or 15 minutes later.. and so on, until everything equalized – which took maybe 2 hours.  The pings were the expansion of the thin metal radiators, the type what runs low along the floor;  the knocks were the hot water pipes rubbing up against the wooden framing.  The creaks were whatever was left over.

It was hard to sleep up there the first several weeks, eventually though I acclimated and stopped hearing it.

But I never heard anything that I could characterize as evenly paced footsteps, even high heels, for that length of time.

Having an open mind is a two way street.

7:14 am
September 30, 2010


Nosfer

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That's where duration becomes very important…and timed duration, not an estimate as many people do not have a real good sense of actual time passage. I've had temperature creaks that sound exactly like someone walking in the attic but if it were, it would only be two or three steps usually. And heels especially on tile would have a distinct sound.

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9:39 am
September 30, 2010


mike10

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No cameras, recorders, cell phones. can be used in the buliding. Client privacy, I would get in big trouble. We did not hear the heels again the rest of the night. It's  a steady even pace. You can hear it coming and going. The building makes a lot of noise most noises are eazy to identify. Toilets flushing, water running in sinks. (we wash our hands a lot) chairs moving people running or stomping in the unit above us. These noises happen all the time.  But the High Heel noise, very different very random. I don't like footstep noise as proof of paranormal ghost activity. That would mean they have weight and substance enough to strike the floor and make noise. I perfer floating, gliding ghosts that are not solid. Laughing

9:47 am
September 30, 2010


mike10

Investigator in Training

posts 21

I thought I put a smilie face at the end of the last post, but it says(laughing). Whats up with that. Anybody that has heard this sound says the only thing it sounds like is High Heels walking. Not one person has ever said it sounded like anything else.  

10:00 am
September 30, 2010


Learjet

Australia

Lead Investigator

posts 1122

I think there's a bit of a problem with the smilies at the moment as it happened to me also.

OD'd on EMF

10:01 am
September 30, 2010


Revenant

Hopelessly Locked In A "Fear Cage"

Lead Investigator

posts 1393

Orion said: "But I never heard anything that I could characterize as evenly paced footsteps, even high heels, for that length of time."

I've been thinking about this aspect…the evenly paced footsteps and how it could occur.  I have one option.  Not long ago, I was house-hunting and went into a basement to inspect it.  There was a bit of free-standing water.  An air conditioning pipe had frozen over and began to melt a bit which caused some dripping.

So…picture a frozen pipe.  Temperature changes, the ice begins to melt and drips on to a heating duct.  It's large, metallic and would make an interesting sound depending upon the distance of the pipe to the duct.  The drips of the melting ice would be somewhat evenly distributed.  Also, even though water dripping on a heating duct might be recognizable, heard through a floor…it might sound very different.

However…that only explains the pacing of the footsteps and maybe the tone of the sound.  But why the dripping would suddenly stop after 20 to 30 seconds….um, yeah…that's where things fall apart.  I don't have an answer.

Hmmm…unless we take out the frozen aspect.  Say a pipe simply leaks after a certain amount of use or under a particular amount of pressure.  Mike10 did say they ran a lot of water in sinks.  Maybe it's only when the water is a certain temperature and condensation builds up. 

It would be interesting to know what the people did maybe a half hour before they hear the sound.  If they're using hot water at a particular sink.  I wonder if we could narrow down something along these lines?

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10:08 am
September 30, 2010


Nosfer

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Mike10: Saying that it appeared that someone in high-heels walked past us would indicate to me a change in location or something that would give the impression that the sound was moving? Does the volume or frequency of the "walking" (for lack of a better term) seem to change or if you are staying in one spot is it constant?

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8:48 pm
October 7, 2010


mike10

Investigator in Training

posts 21

Yes, we are sitting still. The sound seems to approch and pass by then stops. Its heard in all the rooms up the hall to the office. We do have a lot of plumbing problems. When the toilet above our bathroom, upstairs is plugged up, water runs through the light fixture in our bathroom below. This is in the hall where the High Heel sound is heard. Also we have a toilet that blows up like Old Faithful . The sound must be tied to the plumbing somehow but its so random.

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