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EVPs at my house

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11:55 am
August 3, 2008


crisfneves

Brazil

Investigator in Training

posts 7

A few weird things have happened in my life. I’m telling the
most recent.

I live at a house that must be at least 40 years old, but I
am not sure how old it is. I have been living here with my parents for three
years. It’s rented. Actually, I have been living here for less than a years,
because I was living at another city, but I would visit my parents at least
twice a month.

My room is in the middle of the house, and it has a regular
wooden door, and a glass door. The glass door, you can’t really see through,
but you can make out shapes and sometimes, depending on the light and proximity
to the door, colors.

My brother (older than I) used to say he didn’t like my
room, because he would see shadows passing by the glass door. I told him he was
crazy, that it was probably my mother going to get water or something.

So last November I moved back in with my parents. At first,
nothing unusual happened. Sometimes I would hear something upstairs (there is
this big area there, where now is sort of a gym) Since my father’s office is
upstairs, I would assume it was him, and I was probably right. When he wasn’t
at home, I would think it was the cats, or something.

So, one afternoon, on a weekend, my father was out, my
mother was sleeping at her bedroom, and my brother was watching kill bill on
the living room. I got out of the shower and went to my bedroom to get dressed.
While I was dressing, I saw just what my brother had said, a dark shadow, a
man, passing by the glass door. I thought my father had arrived. I knew it
wasn’t my brother, because I could hear the music of the movie, playing.

When I got out of the bedroom I was surprise to learn that
my father had NOT arrived, and my brother swears he did not pass by my door. I
believe him, because he was kind of scary about it.

Weird, right? I finally started to believe my brother. That
same night, later, I was on my bed, trying to sleep, and I heard sounds
upstairs. Sounded like footsteps on wooden floor, but the floor upstairs is not
made of wood. Normally, I wouldn’t do anything, but after what happened that
afternoon, I went there and left my Ipod recording, hoping I would catch the
walking or some EVP. I did.

I cant really say it was a EVP or just a disembodied voice,
because I wasn’t there, I was sleeping, :), but it’s really scary. The first I
heard sounded to me like “Pedro”. Oh, I forgot to mention, I’m from brazil (sorry
about the grammar and vocabulary mistakes, :D), so, obviously, the “ghosts” are
speaking Portuguese (yes, Brazilians speak Portuguese, not Spanish lol). So,
Pedro is a name, meaning Peter. I don’t know anybody named Pedro, but it’s very
clear. The other EVP, or disembodied voice, whatever, sounded like “meu pai”
(pronounces something like “mew pie”) meaning “my father”. Another one,
fainter, sounded to me like “pedro” again, but this time spoken twice.

I uploaded the sounds at 4shared, if anyone wants to
download them to hear:

meu pai

pedro

pedropedro

After hearing that, I went upstairs with my brother, at
night, to try to do some ghost hunting. Of course we did like the ghost
hunters, turning the lights off and all (for what ever reason they do that). We
took pictures (only a few dust “orbs”), and we sat to try to get EVP. So we
were there for a while, asking question. Then we started to talk, about other
stuff, there, in the dark, and I thought I saw a shadow, a thin, small,
shapeless, shadow, moving into the bathroom. I gave no attention, because,
well, it was dark, I thought it was my imagination. But the thing is, my
brother kept looking in that direction. When I asked if he had seen anything,
he said he was not sure, but he thought he saw a shadow going to the bathroom.
We took more pictures, asked questions, but that night we caught nothing.

After that I decided not to mess with it any longer, because
I didn’t want to disturb anyone, or anything. It may sound silly, but I live
here, and whatever it is, it doesn’t bother me, it’s activity is centered
upstairs, it’s very rare, and I have heard stories that you can make things
worst by trying continuously to contact entities.

Months later, I was talking about it to my father, and he
told me the owner of the house is called Pedro. I don’t know if it has any
connection, and I can’t really find out if it does because this Pedro guy is
living out of the country.

That is all. Just sharing stories. At this house there is
another weird thing that happens, but I don’t think it has anything to do with
the EVPS and activities upstairs. It’s regarding a ghost cat, but I’ll post it
at another topic.

Just for curiosity, this is a photo taken upstairs,
the night I went with my brother. There are two orbs, not really impressive,
but orbs never impress me :) , also it illustrates the story:

8:26 pm
August 13, 2008


Stephen

San Jose, CA

Admin

posts 589

Hi crisfneves,

Thanks for the EVPs. I had a listen to all three. My guess would be that they're background noise– especially the last. Can't prove it, of course– that's one of my problems with EVPs.

I wrote up some guidelines on posting EVP links that you might find of interest.

Stephen the Friendly Skeptic

8:18 am
August 30, 2008


crisfneves

Brazil

Investigator in Training

posts 7

Sorry I've been away for sooo long, but working and studing takes a lot of time.

Thanks for the tips on EVPs and the opinion. I think that, yes, it could be background, but the words, specially "pedro", are so clear to me, and with all that was going on, I still think that could be something…

I totally agree with those tips, for posting EVPs, makes sense. But my EVPs would be particularly hard for you guys to pic uo, being in portuguese and all, hehe. If it happens again, I'll post white.

As to the specifcs, it was recorded indoors, there was nobody there. There is only one window in the room. The doors to the other rooms (the rooms you can see in the photo) were shut. In the other side of the window there is a neighbour's roof top. As the sounds came about five hours into recording, I suppose it happened around 4 AM.

I recorded with an IPOD (I don't understand the specifics – 44.1 KHz? 22.1? 8? 4?) , and I did not enhance the sounds (I don't even know how to do it). I only used a software to cut the part I wanted.

1:00 pm
September 3, 2008


bullerspoke

Sweden

Investigator

posts 101

A couple of points.

Firstly, the recordings are suggestive and curious, I'll grant you that. But no more than that. :)

To the points. The frist problem is that the recordings were made in uncontrolled surroundings, without defined parameters. No effort was made, from what I can figure from your posts, to control variables like contamination from outside noise, people moving and talking in the house, stray radio waves, electrical interference and well, someone playing a trick on you. You state you slept whilst the recording was made and you and we can't rule out anything or anyone. For one, we do not know which noises would be audible to anyone around, or are man-made because noone was supervising the recorder or the location. I can tell you, houses and people make noises, some rather disturbing to an unsuspecting ear, and one thing is sure: sound travels.

The problem with your recording is that it fails the most basic scrutiny, since you did not control the experiment and set no parameters. An analogy if you put a ball on the street outside your house and then went in for dinner, leaving the ball unattended and open for manipulation and coming back to find the ball had moved. Like with your recording you only have the fact that somehting happened, but since you had no control of the setting, basically anything is possible, wind, people, dogs or whatnot. You would not state that you know what moved the ball and probably not attribute it to anyting paranormal, no? Well, the same goes for your recording. You have no basis for conclusion and no way to rule out anything. I should say of course, that you can't rule out a paranormal phenomena either, but since you can't rule out natural phenomena you are left with guesses. There is no basis for any claim.

I am sorry if I sound harsh in tone, that is no my intention. I only want to help you assess your experiment and improve your methodology so that you get actual data to draw conclusion from and you can make sustainable claims if you find an anomaly. Good methodology is not for scientists only.

I also would like to address the name Pedro, which seems to be a classic example of retrofitting. That means that you interpreted the fact in the context of your recording and connected it to what you seem to have captured. Let me put it like this, anyone called Pedro (which is a rather common portuguese name, no?) with any connection to the building is seen to strengthen the belief the name Pedro as heard and make the recording more believable. This is not a fault, but a facet of human nature to find patterns and recognition which strengthen our interpretations of reality and phenomena we observe. While in fact the phenomena is arbitrary and random. To explain what I mean, you can make the experiement and change the name Pedro to say, Gilberto and you probably find a Gilberto with a connection to your house in one way or another. Simpy spoken: If you hear Gilberto, you fnd a Gilberto, if you hear Pedro you find a Pedro.

Of course, all this does not rule out paranormal phenomena, and the name Pedro could be intently spoken by a ghost wishing to communicate. That is a possibility, but so is about anything else to. In fact, anything is possible when it comes to your recording because you left it open for anything possible.

As for the recording itself, it is recorded on a very low quality, 8 khz, and the ipod is known for producing sound artifacts when the battery is getting low during recording. You did not specify what microphone you used but that is also a factor to consider when it comes to sound artifacts.

Again, I am sorry if I sound harsh in m post, but extraordinary claims calls for extraordinary proof. And the existence of ghosts able to communicate is such a claim. And furthermore, my intention is for you to learn from your mistakes and make a better experiment next time. We are all in this together and we ahve an obligation to further and scrutiny our studies so that we can produce valid and sustainable proof.

Ok, that all became a bit long, and I could write more, but I'll leave it at that for now. If you have any questions or want tips on methodology or whatnot, feel free to ask.

When in doubt… figure it out!

8:53 am
November 20, 2008


Bad Dog

Planet Earth

Investigator in Training

posts 2

This is the hardest to prove, alot of environmentals have an impact on EVP, we are bombarded with electromagnetic waves from cellphones to cb radio to TV and on and on, I am a amatuer radio operator and would freak the neighbors out while broadcasting they heard me come out the speaker on the TV set, with the TV off, it used to be EVP was done using magnetic tape, like a cassette or mini cassette recorder, but the tape being magnetic has faults just like a speaker has a magnet and a coil which I powered with radio waves at high power, doing EVP on a digital device is much better but it has faults as well, they still can pick up on elctromagnetic energy, because the microphone picks up this energy then its passed on to being recorded, so in reality there is no sure fire way to get EVP to work and be proven even in a controlled environment.

I have tried several EVP sessions and found no way to really get anything but whitenoise in the most controlled area, it still had what I thought was something but turned out to be my cat purring or something else like the coffee maker noise from just the heater being on under the glass pot so anything can make noises that sound like words if you let your mind think of it as a word you can hear it in the noise. I think EVP is one source I would rule out as finding the paranormal until it can be made to record without any affect from electromagnetic energy, which will be hard considering we are flooded with it all around us all the time. I also think electromagnetic enegry has alot to do with people finding paranormal and they want to believe what they found is real and disregard the earth and its electromagnetic properties as the source.

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