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9:51 am
November 13, 2009


Drache Frau

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It seems that the fad at the moment is posting personal experiences. I usually don't like to discuss things about my personal life (unless about my animals Laughing) but since none of you know who I really am, I feel a little more comfortable. I would like to start off by giving a few more details about myself to help you guys understand more about the situations. I'm 21 years old and I live with my parents, grandmother, younger brother (9) and older brother (23) and my cousin (15). I've lived in the same house all my life, but I moved to a townhouse for about five years, only to move back when my grandfather died. My home is surrounded my trees for about eleven acres with few neighbors. I have always been interested in myths and ghosts, and, as you can imagine, I had a very good imagination as a child, so I don't mind criticism at all, in fact I encourage it. I have already mentioned before that I have had dreams that have come true so I won't go into that. I'll mainly mention a couple of things that I have seen. One specific time, when I was very young and I was attempting to sleep in the living room (I say attempting because I've always had sleeping problems) I looked into the kitchen and saw three shadows moving around. They were different heights. I say shadows because, even though it was dark, they didn't seem quite solid. They were just moving around as if they were doing something. None of them bent over like they were pulling something out of the oven though, just counter top things. I don't remember being afraid. I just watched them until I fell asleep. Let me clarify that my grandfather built the house. No one had died there yet and no one had lived there previously. I understand that I could have been partially dreaming, I just thought I would try to mention everything. Another time, around the same age and while at school, I watched a similar shadow, but the height of a child, walk around a corner. It wasn't fleeting or out of the corner of my eye, and it wasn't on the wall like a normal shadow, it was separate. No one else around me saw it. There have been other times that I have seen these 'shadows' but those two stand out the most to me. I'll leave it at that for now, partly because I don't want to bore anyone (even though random shadows are kinda' boring Smile) and partly because I have to get back to work. I hope nobody minds me starting a topic, and I feel kinda awkward doing so since I still feel new to this site Embarassed. I can't wait to hear what you guys have to say.

Ghost, n. The outward and visible sign of an inward fear.

6:11 pm
November 13, 2009


Learjet

Australia

Lead Investigator

posts 1122

Thanks for that. I always like reading ghost stories, especially from skeptics. Smile

OD'd on EMF

12:15 am
November 16, 2009


ok

Investigator

posts 33

I personally have not seen what I would think of as shadows, but your account seems honest and clear. Have most of your shadow sightings been in the daytime or at night? Where else have you seen them?

8:02 am
November 20, 2009


Drache Frau

Investigator

posts 74

I've seen them mostly during the day and usually I just think of them as my eyes playing tricks on me (which is very likely true) I mostly see them in my home. Only a few times have I seen them elsewhere and, even at my home, it's not as common place as I'm making it sound.

Another time, in this same house and still before anyone had died there, I remember lying in my bed and being scared because it was dark. (Yes, even though I loved and was fascinated by 'scary' things I still became afraid of the dark sometimes. I was strange because I had trouble sleeping if there was any light, but then I would have trouble because it was dark. Undecided I can only imagine how agitated my mother must have been.) Anyways, as I lay there, afraid to move in case I alerted anything else in the room to my presense, I remember feeling a hand touch mine and it made me feel better. I'm not sure how to describe the way the hand felt. I didn't actually feel preasure or something solid. It was more of the idea of a hand laid on mine. I know it sounds very odd. I can't think of anyway else to describe it. Let me see, I had to be about five or six at the time and it comforted me and I wasn't as afraid anymore. It may have just been a dream that just seemed more real.
Okay, now for something more recent. At my work (that I have been at for four years) I've seen a couple 'shadows' but they're always fleeting and it's all been fairly recent, like in the past six months. One time it was a shadow low to the ground and my immediate thought was that it was a cat. My second thought was 'Why is there a cat in here?' but there was nothing there. Another time, while I was sitting and writing out some things, I glanced up and thought I saw a shorter man that was balding and wearing glasses, but there was nothing. It was similar to the hand. The best way to describe it was like the idea of the man. I saw him, but at the same time I didn't. Embarassed  I know it sounds so strange, but that's the only way I can describe it. And, no, it was not 'This Man'. Tongue out
Now I'll mention something that my father experienced. A few weeks after my grandfather died (he was one of two people to die there. His mother had died there a few years earlier. I got to meet all of my great-grandparents on my mother's side. They all lived into their nineties.) Anyways, my father was leaving for work. My father leaves very early in the morning, just before the sun comes up. My grandfather would be up that early as well. He always got up to watch the sun rise. Well, my father was walking out of the door as usual, saw my grandfather sitting in his chair, said "Good morning, Buddy" and got in his truck. Then, he realised that he couldn't have seen my grandfather because he was dead. He looked back and there was no one there. My father thinks that he was there to remind him to take care of my mother. I was not there and did not witness it, so all I can tell you is what he described to me. My father is not interested in anything paranormal and he thinks it's all fake and silly.

Again, I can't wait to hear opinions. Critism is encouraged and expected. (Especially from skepticsTongue out)

Ghost, n. The outward and visible sign of an inward fear.

9:38 am
November 20, 2009


ok

Investigator

posts 33

You said, "Yes, even though I loved and was fascinated by 'scary' things I still became afraid of the dark sometimes."

I think this is normal, and I think it is healthy. For a person NOT to be afraid of the dark is kinda silly, since that is probably the time of day we, as cavepeople or tree-dwellers, got eaten most of the time.

You said,  "I remember feeling a hand touch mine and it made me feel better. "

Now, this could have been psychological or paranormal. We can't know which. Maybe its both? I have allways been a fan of the idea that the paranormal and the activities of the psyche could be one and the same thing. Even in the cases of many poltregists, there is a connection to a young adult's psyche and raging hormones, and from what I understood in my Abnormal Psyhcology class in the University is that things DO move on thier own in these houses, but only when the young adult is present. So maybe there was a hand, or maybe it was all in your mind. Either way, it could be paranormal, even if it was a projection of the psyche, in my opinion.

You said," Okay, now for something more recent. At my work (that I have been at for four years) I've seen a couple 'shadows' but they're always fleeting and it's all been fairly recent, like in the past six months. One time it was a shadow low to the ground and my immediate thought was that it was a cat. My second thought was 'Why is there a cat in here?' but there was nothing there."

Depak Chopra writes about "synchonicity". His ideas are very intriguing. He says that if you think you see something, or something pops into your mind for whatever reason, that it is like a message, and shouldn't be ignored. Now, does this come from inside you or outside you? I am not sure it matters. Buddhists say this whole world is a projection from within, and western mystics say 'As above, so below'  meaning  that the inner and the outer reflect eachother. So if your mind/ghost/whatever shows you a cat, maybe there's a reason for it, and  you should look into cat related things in your life at that time. Just an idea.

You said, "Another time, while I was sitting and writing out some things, I glanced up and thought I saw a shorter man that was balding and wearing glasses, but there was nothing. It was similar to the hand. The best way to describe it was like the idea of the man. I saw him, but at the same time I didn't.  I know it sounds so strange, but that's the only way I can describe it. And, no, it was not 'This Man'. "

I actually know what you are talking about here. Its like an invisible man that is definately there. I have seen these "people". Again, no way to know if its paranormal or if its all from your head, but either way I wouldn't just blow it off. I don't know what this "man" might mean to you, or what message he may have had for you, but I am sure you could always go back and ask him in a lucid dream. I don't think these kinds of weird events are meaningless.

You said, " Then, he realised that he couldn't have seen my grandfather because he was dead. He looked back and there was no one there. My father thinks that he was there to remind him to take care of my mother."

Now this is really awesome. To be perfectly honest, and open to criticism here, I think these events are perfectly real. Has your dad seen him since?

4:08 pm
November 30, 2009


Drache Frau

Investigator

posts 74

No, he hasn't seen him since or a before, however we did have a friend of the family tell us that when they were leaving our house they saw him standing on the same spotand waving. I'm entirely open to the fact that these moments could have well been induced by stress, memories, and/or imagination. I'm more inclined to think of them as such, except for the circumstances involving my grandfather. I much rather think of them as very real. Smile I was very close to him. I just wanted to see what other people think and interpret. As I said before, I'm not very open with personal experiences, but the anonymity of all this is convenient. Plus their are some fairly intellegent people on here. Laughing

Ghost, n. The outward and visible sign of an inward fear.

1:49 am
December 1, 2009


Learjet

Australia

Lead Investigator

posts 1122

I have experienced something along similar lines.

Shortly after my father died, both my mother and I were sitting at the kitchen table around midday when we heard what sounded like him clearing his throat and walking up the back stairs. Went out to have a look and no one was there. We both heard this on a couple of occasions and at the same time. We looked at each other to confirm that we both heard it.

Now my mother had a strong belief that the dead stayed dead, until the return of Jesus so it was against her beliefs to be in contact with her husband after death.

My mother ended up dying six months later. About two weeks after her death at 4:30am I heard footsteps just outside my bedroom door and what sounded like the door knob rattling. This was so loud and clear that I was convinced I had burglars! To the extent that I loaded a rifle and went looking for them LOL. 

When I heard them I was in bed at the time but nowhere near sleep. I was just too restless. If someone else told me that story I would be thinking hypnagogic sounds. For me though I rarely experience hypnagogic sounds, mostly visual imagery. So I don't know what to make of it.

For a few days after her death I also had a strong sense of her presence. It was so strong it was almost tangable.

But I want more than this to sway me. I want proof. I want something to register on a piece of electronics in a way that leaves no doubt. Electronic equipment are not swayed by grief, emotions or hypnagogia, only misinterpretation. Which is why those crazy Ghost Hunters on TV pricked up my ears. Unfortunately this has just been a wild goose chase. They make misinterpretation of equipment into an artform.

More recently the remainder of my past close family have died, along with several close friends. I feel like the last man standing. Considering my health, I don't know how long I'll be here for either LOL. I just want to know if there's somethng after death or we are all headed into the great nothingness. Not that there's anything I can do to change the outcome… I just want to know.

OD'd on EMF

9:22 am
December 4, 2009


Drache Frau

Investigator

posts 74

For some reason I have never had difficulty believing that there is an existence after death. I do believe that everyone is going to be resurrected when Jesus comes again, but I don't think that we are all just asleep. I think that we are going to continue learning and trying to fix the mistakes that we made and preparing ourselves for that time. What I wonder most about is how much contact those who are waiting for Jesus have with us. Perhaps people who feel like they need to make amends for something come back to do that, or people who had a certain happy moment want to relive it or take care of their family left behind. Maybe for some reliving things that they did wrong is a form of their personal hell. I'm not sure if this is true, but I do know that there is something after and I think that those people who died and are waiting are waiting here, just on another plane of existence or something like that. It makes sense in my head. Laughing I know none of that is very scientific, it's just me spouting theories.

Ghost, n. The outward and visible sign of an inward fear.

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