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Did BBC cameraman capture a ghost?

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7:55 am
May 18, 2009


alicat

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posts 1215

Just saw this on the BBC this morning.

From the Jenner Museum Director in Gloucestershire:  "We have always thought of the 'ghosts' as being metaphoric, but maybe we need to think again."  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/gloucestershire/8055735.stm

A panoramic view.  I love reading the comments!  Here's view 1: http://www.bbc.co.uk/gloucestershire/content/panoramas/jenner_attic_1_360.shtml

View 2:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/gloucestershire/content/panoramas/jenner_attic_2_360.shtml

Here's the actual site for the Jenner Museum:   http://www.jennermuseum.com/

9:23 am
May 18, 2009


Leslie

Investigator

posts 157

Thanks alicat. This is an interesting pic.

What bothers me is that on view 2 I cannot pan down to look at the base of the beds and floor. In the other view I can pan down and up to look at the floor and ceiling. Why?

I'd also like to know what kind of camera this was shot with. There is a lot of light reflection throughout the whole attic ,and some cameras more easily distort reflections than ohters.

12:57 pm
May 18, 2009


Revenant

Hopelessly Locked In A "Fear Cage"

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posts 1393

Thanks for the link, Alicat.

First, I have to admit…I spent about a minute just trying to pronounce "Gloucestershire."  Doesn't exactly roll off the tongue, does it?  Laughing

The picture is somewhat interesting.  What I don't like is found in this quote:

"I checked again and looked in the doorway but I could see nothing."

I'm not a big fan of a normal camera showing something in a picture that the naked eye doesn't see.  That, in itself, sends up a big red flag for me.

I did love the second link.  I like the 360 thing and I really like being able to zoom in and out and move the picture around.  Dust playing tricks in light comes to mind when looking close up at the image.  Notice the light above the figure (looks like smoke).  It's either…ecto-plasmic mist…*cough, cough*…or light in which the dust hadn't risen to that height.  No dust…it just looks like light.  Add dust…you get something pretty interesting.

Also…you've got that big window just to the left of the image.  The museum/house, from Alicat's last link, was at least owned in 1785.  I couldn't find the actual year that it was built, but safe to say probably before 1785.  That being said, I would be interested in the glass in the actual window.  Having been to Europe many times, I noticed that many older buildings have insanely thick glass.  And even if it's not thick, some of that older glass isn't quite as "see-through" as we're accustomed to in the states.  Light does all kinds of tricky things when coming through older glass.

Overall, I think the image is pretty cool.  Do I believe that it's paranormal?  I'm going to lean towards no. 

"Skepticism is not a position, it's a process." -Dr Michael Shermer

4:31 am
May 19, 2009


MissMissy

LA County, CA

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posts 51

It's kinda weird how the light in view 2 goes pouring into the room almost as if the "mist" moved from what I guess is a hallway up to the camera. I am not going to hazard a guess as to how that happened since I have no real experience with photography other than point and click. The first view I will say did look like a pair of legs wearing what appear to be a uniform. Again, I can't hazard a guess at how this was pulled off by either "side."

A note on the two views and I be might over analyzing but the light from the window to the left casts directly to the right of the door entrance. The bluish "mist" cast straight forward straight to the camera with no obvious source coming from behind. I am not a lighting expert only using what I see but it seems intriguing. I don't know if photoshopping can pull it off. The journalist was adamant that the photo wasn't altered but maybe the recession made em want to get a few extra bucks on the susceptible viewer. God I'm way to cynical aren't I?!

If the truth is out there than why haven't I found it yet?

8:48 am
May 19, 2009


Oubliette

Igloo in NJ

Lead Investigator

posts 574

Here is a possible clue as to what may have happened:

It helps to enlarge the photo on the bbcUk link provided by Alicat.  Note how the color of the "body" of the ghost exactly matches that of the wall on either side of the doorway.  I'm guessing this is an artifact produced by the camera, and possibly has something to do with the dust pointed out by Revenant.  I think viewers are pixelating (is that a real word?) a body where there is none.

Great story–thanks Alicat for posting this.  It's amazing how people jump so quickly on the ghost bandwagon without considering any and all possibilities that might have occurred with the equipment.

If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
Anatole France

9:16 am
May 19, 2009


phillyk48

Indiana

Investigator

posts 81

I'm really examing the enlarged photo and so far here's what I think. "His" left arm is part of the background, look on either side and see the slats.  His right arm, down from the elbow is just a collection of things on the table, cameras and whatever.  His head is a vase(?) of flowers (the white on top of the "head").   You can see through the vase, so you see light and darkness because of the background and the stems of the flowers.  The pants are the "dust" mentioned by Revenant along with the light coming through the glass.  The bare chest includes "knotholes" and other imperfections on those slats I already mentioned, along with light thru the window and dust.  So good, so far?   Undecided

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