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12:25 pm
April 24, 2009


Mary

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Alright!  I will relate my one and only weird experience.  This was in the basement of my ranch home years and years ago.  After getting out of the shower, I thought I heard a piano being played, although I could not 'name that tune'.  Now, hearing a piano would not be weird, as my mother often plays.  But I can always identify the song, and this time she was NOT playing, because I asked her when I went upstairs. This experience was repeated over the course of several months, and it was always the same odd 'tune', and sometimes it would occur when I was the only person home.  I mentioned this once to my cousin, (she was living with us at the time, because her family was in the process of building a new home), and she said that she'd heard the same thing, in the same spot.

After a while, it stopped happening.  I suppose it could have been the duct work making odd noises, but I really don't have a clue.

"Quando omni flunkus moritati" ("When all else fails, play dead") – Possum Lodge motto. Jason and Grant should adopt it as their own.

1:06 am
April 25, 2009


Revenant

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Hmmm…pretty interesting.

Let me ask a few questions so I can visualize this in my head.  There is a piano in the home on the first floor, correct?  You stated that you were in the basement when you heard it playing.  Were you in the basement everytime that you heard the "tune?"  Was your cousin also in the basement when she heard it?

Also, how long did it play for?  5 seconds?  20 seconds?  Did the time vary at all or was it consistant?  How loud was it (was it as loud or softer compared to hearing your mother actually play and you were in the basement)?

Lastly, is it relatively easy to hear noises from the first floor in the basement?  Such as voices, footsteps, TV…that sort of thing.  And were there any children's toys capable of producing music around at that time?

The more information that we have, the more possibilities that we can rule out.  Smile

"Skepticism is not a position, it's a process." -Dr Michael Shermer

7:44 am
April 25, 2009


Mary

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Let me ask a few questions so I can visualize this in my head.  There is a piano in the home on the first floor, correct?  You stated that you were in the basement when you heard it playing.  Were you in the basement everytime that you heard the "tune?"  Was your cousin also in the basement when she heard it? -

- Yes, this is correct.  And, yes, my cousin was also in the same spot when she heard the 'music' (for lack of a better description)

Also, how long did it play for?  5 seconds?  20 seconds?  Did the time vary at all or was it consistant?  How loud was it (was it as loud or softer compared to hearing your mother actually play and you were in the basement)? – Actually, it lasted for a long time.  I went upstairs before it stopped, and if I would go back down right away, it would still be there.  I never out-waited the noise, though, since I didn't want to spend the entire evening down the basement.  LOL!  But the noise/music was only very, very intermittent.  It only happened to me probably four or five times, total, before it quit entirely.  The sound was about as loud as you would expect a piano to sound from one level down, and it could only be heard in that one area.  My best guess would be the furnace was making some odd noise, but it was sure strange that it sounded like a piano being played.

No, there were no toys around.  You can hear the TV, talking and footsteps upstairs, but what was odd about this was the noise was exactly the same every  time.    

"Quando omni flunkus moritati" ("When all else fails, play dead") – Possum Lodge motto. Jason and Grant should adopt it as their own.

8:29 pm
April 25, 2009


Learjet

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What about the possibility of the neightbours playing the piano and the spot you were in was conductive to sound from outside?

My mother used to play piano also and you could hear it down the street.

OD'd on EMF

6:55 am
April 26, 2009


Oubliette

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The sounds I heard, such as weird singing and a fiddle/violin being played, happened almost every night over quite a stretch of time.  So I understand what you have experienced.  Thing is, the sounds seemed like they were almost hanging in the air, as opposed to actually being there, if that makes any sense.  And they always occurred late at night, with nothing playing and no one around.

Phantom sounds have been reported for centuries.  IMO, although most have a natural explanation, there remains a certain percentage that are impossible to dismiss off hand. To me your experience sounds like the latter.   Don't think I added it to my own experiences in another thread, but I also heard the sound of furniture being moved downstairs, with of course nothing being out of place in the morning.

I do believe that phantom music, voices and sounds are areas that need further investigation in their own right.  We may find psychological sources for them, but I've always been fascinated by these odd occurrences.

If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
Anatole France

11:49 pm
April 26, 2009


Revenant

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Mary said:

The sound was about as loud as you would expect a piano to sound from one level down, and it could only be heard in that one area.  My best guess would be the furnace was making some odd noise, but it was sure strange that it sounded like a piano being played.

No, there were no toys around.  You can hear the TV, talking and footsteps upstairs, but what was odd about this was the noise was exactly the same every  time.    


The same exact sounds heard only in one particular area.  I have a story to share:

My home is built on a rather large pond.  Other homes are also built around it.  There is a sidewalk that encircles the pond.  Very nice to walk the dog around.  So, one night I'm walking the dog around the pond and the dog suddenly stops.  Since we have ducks, geese, cranes, and other visitors to the pond, I quickly closed the distance to my dog to see why she had stopped.  That's when I heard the voices.

It was late, maybe one in the morning, so there was no one around that I could see.  I took a step forward and the voices stopped.  I took a step backwards and there were the voices again.  Odd, I thought.  I took steps in different directions and figured out that the voices had maybe a two foot diameter.  Outside that two foot diameter, only silence.

Well, it was weird, but I felt that the voices were simply coming across the pond.  The dog and I made our way around the pond and sure enough, a couple were on their deck just chatting.  I meant to post this story in the "Nothing To See Here" section, but never got around to it.

Now…back to Mary.  The first thing I thought of when I read your answers to my questions was something called Sound Localization.  It's basically a listener's ability to identify the location or origin of a detected sound in distance and direction.  It's also a very tricky thing, as my own personal example shows.

If one hears something like music from a piano and one has a piano in the home, the automatic conclusion would be that the music is coming from that piano.  But, not necessarily.  Learjet brought up an excellent point that the music may not have been coming from your house at all, it may have only appeared to be.

You also mention that a possibility could be the furnace.  Maybe.  But in the many years that you were there, it only happened a handful times roughly together in a short time span and then it suddenly stopped.  Since you didn't mention that the furnace was repaired or replaced, I would assume that it was in decent working condition.  Perhaps the weather could be a factor then.  Still, it would be hard to argue since you never heard the "tune" since the first batch of occurances.  So, I'm doubting the furnace.

We have music coming from an unknown source only being heard in one particular area for a very short time.  It's impossible to test since this happened years ago and we can no longer recreate the same environment.  So, where does this leave us?  Well, the logical approach would be to believe the source of the tune was coming from an outside source, most likely a TV or a radio (perhaps hearing the theme music to a particular show…would explain why the "tune" was always the same).

Or, Oubliette brought up other alternatives.  And really, I'd go with one of hers.  The reason?  First, it makes for a much better story.  Two, I have absolutely no evidence to determine whether or not the source of the music was normal or paranormal.  And third, it's a pretty cool personal experience that has kept with you for a very long time and we can always use a little wonder and mystery in our lives…  Wink   

"Skepticism is not a position, it's a process." -Dr Michael Shermer

11:11 am
May 4, 2009


Mary

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Thanks for all the responses! 

I have to doubt the 'piano' was coming from a different house, because our home is on a large lot (almost 2 acres) and the nearest house is approx. 500 feet away, and past a LOT of pine trees. 

Now, I will relate two different 'ghostly' experiences told to me, but not actually experienced by me.  The first happened to my nephew, about ten years ago, when he was still a teenager. 

A group of four kids heard a story about a cemetery that, on Halloween – AT MIDNIGHT! – a ghost would show up.  So, being teenagers, they went there on Halloween, and stood exactly where the ghost was supposed to show up.  Two of the kids chickened out, and left, but my nephew and one other kid stayed until midnight.  At midnight exactly, (or so they claimed) a cold wind went howling past, ruffling their clothes but not the leaves on the ground or the ones still on the trees.  So, of course, they ran away. 

Second tale -

The house across the street belonged to a lady that was a practicing witch.  I never believed this until after she died and someone kept leaving strange notes and a witches hat on her gravesite.  But, be that as it may, after she died, her house was sold to a person that fixed it up and 'flipped it'.  Well, one day, while my sister was outside weeding her flowerbed, a guy ran across the street.  He was in the house painting, and told my sister that he was alone in the house.  He said that a roll of paper towels accidentally fell off his ladder and they unrolled across the floor.  He then went into another room to get something, and when he came back a minute later, the towels had been rolled back up and placed upright back on the ladder.  He said he was leaving, and he wasn't going to be alone in that house again.  My sister listened politely, and nodded a lot.  (she does NOT believe in ghosts at all) 

Any ideas what could have caused these two incidents?  (Besides ghosts?)

"Quando omni flunkus moritati" ("When all else fails, play dead") – Possum Lodge motto. Jason and Grant should adopt it as their own.

12:50 pm
May 4, 2009


Revenant

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Mary said:

Thanks for all the responses! 

I have to doubt the 'piano' was coming from a different house, because our home is on a large lot (almost 2 acres) and the nearest house is approx. 500 feet away, and past a LOT of pine trees. 


In my example, the distance from myself and my dog to the couple across the pond was roughly 400-450 feet.  So sound, even a simple conversation between two people, in the right circumstances, can travel quite far.  However, this was across water, not through trees.  Elevation may now come into play.  Weather conditions.  Actually…a ton of things.  Without seeing the house and the surrounding area, it's almost impossible to tell.  So really, there's no way for me to prove or disprove that it was paranormal.  In any event, it's still a pretty cool experience.  I'm glad you shared it.  Smile

The Ghostly Wind- I've never been a huge fan of wind, breezes, or even cold spots as proof of the paranormal.  There are just too many variables and not enough scientific measurements to define particular events.  For example, wind ruffling one's cloths, but not the trees above or the leaves below is certainly odd.  Yet, we have seen pictures of how a tornado has blown through a neighborhood and left the houses on the right and left alone, but the center house is completely gone.  So is the wind ruffling just their cloths unusual?  Yes.  Is it paranormal?  I would say highly doubtful.

The Ghostly Paper Towels- Now this is very unusual.  If the house was empty, then I can offer no explanation.  If the man is of sound mind and character and you believe that his statement can be trusted, well…then you've got a pretty strange event there.  Might be fun to set up some web-cams around to see if you can catch anything on video.  Then if you do…immediately come back to the website and post it!  Smile

"Skepticism is not a position, it's a process." -Dr Michael Shermer

1:01 pm
May 4, 2009


Mary

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Revenant – I agree with you about the Ghostly Wind.  I think it was the overactive imagination of teenagers who were already frightened to be in a cemetery at midnight to begin with.  But I'd never say that to my nephew. I'm sure he's convinced it was a ghost!  :p

As far as the Ghostly Paper Towels… I have no idea about the painter man's soundness of mind.  My sister thought he must have been inhaling too many paint fumes. We never saw him before or since.  The house was sold after it was fixed up to a busy family with dogs and kids, and they've lived there for quite a few years now.  I doubt they would appreciate it if I asked them if they've been having ghost issues, and if so, could they please set up a camera.  LOL!  And between kids and dogs, a ghost would get sort of lost in the noise and confusion of family life.  But it is a fun story to relate to this site.   A possibility for this (besides fumes) could be that he rolled the towels up without thinking about it.  I know it's certainly possible to do things so automatically you can't recall doing them. 

"Quando omni flunkus moritati" ("When all else fails, play dead") – Possum Lodge motto. Jason and Grant should adopt it as their own.

1:57 pm
May 4, 2009


alicat

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Revenant,

This might not be relevant to these reported descriptions but I'm familiar with how water transmits conversations.  We learned that on a boat one morning on the Chesapeake.  The previous night we had been having what we thought was a quiet conversation on deck.  The next morning, while having breakfast with friends of ours a few boats down, they laughingly revealed they had heard the whole story.  It was quite embarassing and a very valuable lesson.

Now you know I'm not scientific but is there any possibility that this is similar in some way to the Whispering Gallery?  I had never heard of it until I was in St. Paul's Cathedral and actually experienced it.  Very strange.  I'm probably way off but here's a link from Berkeley Labs:

http://newscenter.lbl.gov/press-releases/2009/01/22/plasmonic-whispering-gallery-microcavity-paves-the-way-to-future-nanolasers/ 

10:22 pm
May 4, 2009


Revenant

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Mary said:

A possibility for this (besides fumes) could be that he rolled the towels up without thinking about it.  I know it's certainly possible to do things so automatically you can't recall doing them. 


Car keys would be an excellent example of this.  You lay your car keys down, do something else, and suddenly…they are "gone."  Paranormal?  Not so much.  It's exactly how you described (no fumes necessary Smile ).  I once dated a girl who continually left her keys in the fridge or freezer.  And every single time…she was amazed by it.  "I can't believe I did that."  After about 20 times, I just told her to use the fridge as her starting point in her search.  And yes, for the record…I did get that "cold stare."  Tongue out 

That's why I brought up whether or not he was "of sound mind."  Innocent

Alicat- Your experience and a Whispering Gallery do share a few similar principles.  Although I did enjoy the link, it is a bit high-tech and focuses in upon lasers (no pun).  This link shows a Whispering Gallery that I've been to many times in Chicago:

http://www.msichicago.org/whats-here/exhibits/whispering-gallery/

It really is a marvel of sound wave communication.   

"Skepticism is not a position, it's a process." -Dr Michael Shermer

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