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3:28 am
January 27, 2010


Learjet

Lead Investigator

Australia

posts 655

Time for episode two already. How time flies.

I nearly spat milk out my nose when Ron proposed an experiment using a stun gun to help spirits manifest. Well guys, Ghost Lab beat you to it if big sparks are anything to go by with their giant Tesla coil. And didn't that have ghosts manifesting all over the place, not. And for that matter what a ghost fest a lightning storm should be.

Depending on how many spark plugs your car has, ghosts should be coming out of it too, as well as the lawn mower. Brushed motors in power tools like electric drills have lots of sparks and arcing, as do toy cars. My electric fence is 2000 volts and not a ghost to be seen when it arcs.  This theory should be dead and buried.

I think I went to sleep through the rest as the episode went by pretty quickly.

7:03 am
January 27, 2010


Crassus

Investigator in Training

Washington, DC

posts 21

Insert joke about cops and tasers. 

8:11 am
January 27, 2010


blinddog

Moderator

"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes"

posts 729

Joke inserted.
Casper screaming…"Don't tase me bro"! "Don't tase me"!

Following the train wreck that is considered paranormal logic, should we not have a spectral version of the Rockettes on high power transmission lines?

11:31 am
January 27, 2010


Janell Beth

Guest

Is it me or does it seen like these shows are ripping people off and trying to pass them on as their own. Ghost Lad and Paranormal Cops a few times now…I have heard them using Jason Sullivan's theories and ideas, almost quoting him word for word and just ripping off ghost adventures and ghost hunters. On Paranormal Cops I saw them using a stun gun, something I've heard Jason Sullivan talk about 6 years ago for protection and possible manifestation, same goes with the Tesla coil on Joke Lab…I mean ghost lab. Paranormal TV just really sucks, when the best in the field are the ones I want to watch, not these overacting jerks that rip people's work off and claim it as their own.


Just my thought


Janell

11:39 am
January 27, 2010


Revenant

Lead Investigator

Hopelessly Locked In A "Fear Cage"

posts 933

Learjet said: "I nearly spat milk out my nose when Ron proposed an experiment using a stun gun to help spirits manifest."

Yeah…stun guns, protection circles and orbs.   I think that pretty much encapsulates what we're up against with this show…

As for Ghost Lab, I guess if you built a power plant over a silver mine and next to a lake…it would be ghost central.  Undecided

Back to that stun gun…it just reinforces the type of thinking going on in these shows.  In science, you gather facts and only then propose a conclusion.  In ghost-hunting shows, you start with the conclusion and try to find facts (*cough* facts….*cough*) to enable yourself the ability to say "it's possible" or "some people think…"  Grant.  Grand.  Wonderful.  Pathetic…

11:46 am
January 27, 2010


Revenant

Lead Investigator

Hopelessly Locked In A "Fear Cage"

posts 933

Janell Beth said: "Paranormal TV just really sucks, when the best in the field are the ones I want to watch, not these overacting jerks that rip people's work off and claim it as their own."

Sorry, I didn't see your post as we were posting at the same time.  Beyond Jason Sullivan, who I am not familar with, who else do you consider the "best in the field?"  Any links would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you.

9:09 am
January 28, 2010


Janell Beth

Guest

If I could pick some of the best in the field based off lectures, services, and their participation in the paranormal community, here's where I would start.
 
Jason Sullivan-Chicago/NW Indiana Midwest Haunts-Does a video series called Ghost Hunting 101, but lectures at colleges, small midwest events and conventions. Does training for free to anyone who ask and participates in many charities to help people in the paranormal and a great professor of the paranormal.
 
Jason Baker-Indianapolis MRIPA (Midwestern Research and Investigators of Paranormal Activity) -Not only offers free training, but will take you out into the field with them to get hands on experience with equipment, set up, and field work. Also a fantastic UFO research team, using state of the art technology and some newly created ones. Jason and his team give a fantastic lecture on research and preach unity. And they have a cool research vehicle.
 
 
Edward Krietemeyer- Stockton CA California Ghost Chasers-Very professional. Excellent networker in getting the best in the field to help think problems through. A true paranormal "Think Tank". I am quoting someone here, but Ed is a true "Paranormal Philosopher" in the field. His ideas and experiments are unique and seriously beneficial to paranormal studies.
 
Chris Dedman- Lexington Kentucky- A minor Para-Celeb but don't let that discredit him. A bit of a bible thumper, but there always has to be a religious point of view in the paranormal and Chris is very professional, his lecture is exciting and informative. He's an investigator first, he will teach and talk paranormal with anyone, where most celebs blow you off.
 
Andy Coppock-LA California-PFM Engineering-Andy is a very cool inventor he uses his engineering skills to better the paranormal by looking and creating new devices to do investigations. His EVP prodject was incredible at an investigation recently in California. I know he's done some TV and runs a Paranormal Tech type boot camp, but fabulous teacher. From what I hear, great things are coming from this paranormal engineer.
 
Steve Fink-Dayton OH-GIG Paranormal-One of the best debunkers in the business. A huge paranormal equipment expert and gadget geek. He and his team are always looking for new and interesting ways in researching the paranormal. I have seen them at a few events and just the education you get on the gear they use and why is worth the time.
 
These were the people who over the last few years have seriously impressed me. I am in Ohio, but my team has been all over and our trip to the Queen Mary last year introduced us to even more people. Paranormal TV is a dead stick, they recruited entertainers not real investigators. When Ghost Lab came out I was excited, but that died after one show…a bunch of over acting douche bags, who like paranormal cops are taking other peoples ideas and trying to pass them off as their own. I understand there is nothing we can do other then turn off the shows and show no support, maybe they'll go away. The great people in the field you never see on TV or at big conventions are the ones giving you the best stuff. These organizers are fixed on getting big TV celebs, but their lectures suck, they name drop left and right, and have nothing to offer anymore. And the conventions seem like clones over and over. Conventions are a serious waste of money, I am still pissed about the Chicago one, WHAT A RIP OFF! Should have been call the Chicago Paranormal Fraud Conventions. Sorry just pissed. But anyway, I'm rambling, those are my top pic's of people in the paranormal, I could make a bigger list, but those people in my opinion make a difference.
 
Thanks for reading
 
*Hugs*
 
Janell
 
 

9:16 am
January 28, 2010


avidmike

Investigator in Training

Florida

posts 20

Janell - I agree with what Revenant posted.  Who among the paranormal shows currently offered is not faking evidence?  Please don't use GHOST HUNTERS in the same sentence as "best in the field" as they have been PROVEN over and over to be carnival tricksters on this website.  And poor tricksters at that.

I have not watched even one minute of GH or GHI since the Donna LaCroix interview.  I don't miss those fake plumbers at all. Why would anyone?

7:01 am
January 29, 2010


Learjet

Lead Investigator

Australia

posts 655

First link doesn't work.

Second link I see they use K-II meters. Blech. Plus the website hung the PC.

Third link. A wiccan website? You're kidding. They also use K-II meters. I see they are on the right track. Not.

Last link. Yet even more K-II meters and a paranormal puck.

I have a brush and some tar….

12:05 pm
January 29, 2010


Bobarino

Investigator

Valencia, CA

posts 178

I must agree with Learjet.  

Please don't take it the wrong way, but only in the spirit it is meant.  I have a scientific background.  When all the shows started to pop up on tv, esp. GH, I was happy that someone was finally taking a "scientific" approach to ghost hunting.  At first I was one of the sheep and loved the show.

Then I started to see the problems.  Eventually I could predict the whole show, and actually SEE how they were faking it.  

Now with all the shows on TV, and all the conventions, etc., I have absolutely no trust or faith that there is a single legitimate "paranormal investigator" on the planet.  

Perhaps there are some out there.   But due to these shows their credibility is in the toilet, and no serious scientist or rational person will believe them.

So when you say someone is "best in the field" in the THIS field, it means nothing to me.  Just another person making money.

Before I hit the "save new post" button, I re-read what I typed, and come to realize that these shows have tainted me…made me jump over the skeptical deep end.  These shows are so horrible that I doubt anything can be done to ever make me believe there are such a thing as ghosts ever again.  Thanks a lot GH  :-/

7:54 pm
January 29, 2010


The Doctor

Lead Investigator

posts 475

Janell - I found one of your suggestions refreshingly honest with their completely blank "evidence" page.

Getting back to Paranormal Cops, it appears that they do not even subscribe to the generally accepted definition of EVP as being something that was NOT heard at the time. The Ghost Hunting community can not even agree on terms they make up.


I visited Jason Sullivan's site and found it pretty laughable that he says -

 "No one is 100% sure what a ghost really is, if they really exist."

Then goes on to tell us -

"Here are the tell tale signs of ghostly activity: "

So Jason, if they don't exist - what would be causing all your tell tale signs ?


2:54 pm
February 2, 2010


Buffy

Investigator in Training

posts 16

I was really disappointed in this episode. I thought that they were going to improve, even the slightest bit, from the first episode, but alas, they got worse! After I got over the disgust of all those library books being left there to get demolished with the place, (sorry it's the librarian in me speaking) I too cringed at the stun gun theory.  It's right up there with the lightning theory or the muddy waters of the Mississippi theory of Ghost Lab.  Does that mean that anyone who is stunned by one sees dead people?  Also, I was a little annoyed at their quick thinking of "ghost" when they saw a cold spot on the FLIR walking down the hallway.  It looked like a window to me and they didn't even try to debunk it.  They also didn't show them scoping out the place when they "saw" someone walk into one of the rooms while setting up their equipment.  They just yelled down the stairwells.  I want to see "cop mode" again! Securing the area!  All in all, they seemed to have cut out a lot of video to get it into 1/2 hr show and maybe that had something to do with it, but I highly doubt it.  I know someone who had a sister that graduate from this school and I don't believe she had any ghostly experiences. What I like about this show, is that they are doing places that no one has investigated before, and hopefully, they keep it that way and just do a better job at investigating. There a plenty of spots in Chicago that are reportedly haunted. Maybe they will bring in some of the K9 units for an investigation. Smile

It would be interesting to get everyone on this site to investigate a "haunted" location together and see what we come up with.

8:03 pm
February 3, 2010


baratgrd

Guest

I graduated from Barat College, where they shot the episode. There are plenty of stories about the 100 year old building. But the one story I've never heard is the one they told in the episode. I researched the murder they were taking about in the episode. It actually occured in the vicinity of, but not at Barat College. I would've liked them to investigate some of the stories I've heard.  All in all, I think someone looked through a book of Chicago stories and picked this out. It was convenient since the murder occured near the school and the school has been closed 5+ years.

10:10 pm
February 6, 2010


Azathoth

Investigator in Training

Land of Cheessteaks

posts 5

In general, I find this series funny.  The main guy is a complete caricture of Sipowitz (sp?) from NYPD Blue.  A little rotund, he speaks like him, and likes to chomp on cigar.  At the beginning it's like an interrogation of the claiment, and at the end there is this official form were they mark stuff off.  Also love the evidence seals on the doorts! 

It's like they watched every ghost hunting show before and somehow combined them into one big mess.  PC "evidence tape" = GA's "locked in".  (Though I found the plantation episode with the cabin's flashing lights, even though that was so obivously faked.  "The door's locked!  I can't see anyone through the window!")  The standard "Did you hear that?"  Orbs (c'mon).  The research guy?  What he does instantaneous research on the fly rather than look it up earlier?  At least their medium doesn't go all Chip Coffee on us.  "Boogers and demons, from the left!"

GH & GHI are the same script in new areas (at least for the last 4-5 years).  I like GHI just for the architecure and history of the places.

I still like GA the best because they give the best show.  Whatching Zak(?) getting possessed every other episode and acting like a puppet is pure gold.  The first time he did it he was great with the just staring around and not saying anything.  Almost had me convinced.  4 eps later he's ranting and raving like a 'madman' while just twirling around in circles.  Oooh, spooky!

Fun thing, I watched 'House of Bones'.  Story about a fake ghost hunting show that runs into a real haunted house.  A scifi channel type film, but they lampoon the 'real' ghost hunting shows nicely.

10:10 am
February 10, 2010


The Doctor

Lead Investigator

posts 475

Learjet said:

Time for episode two already. How time flies.


Looks like time is speeding up - according to A&E website the series finale is Feb 16.

I'd like to think that spirits in hell are forced to watch these over and over Yell

10:34 am
February 10, 2010


Learjet

Lead Investigator

Australia

posts 655

So there's only going to be 3 episodes?

6:13 pm
February 10, 2010


The Doctor

Lead Investigator

posts 475

Learjet said:

So there's only going to be 3 episodes?


That's what's really strange - from what I can see there was supposedly E3 broadcast last week 2/2 and E4 on 2/9  - then it looks like E5 & E6 next week to wrap up the six that were shot.  

But … I can't find any review that says the 2/2 or 2/9 shows were actually aired.

On the A&E website you can view E4 online ( they have the parts labeled 2 & 3 reversed ) , and there is another site that says you can buy E3 from itunes.

I think they just don't know what to do wiith this stinker.

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