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8:05 am July 6, 2011
| blinddog
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Wish J&G would go to Zaffis's house.
Like to make some money on the green olive commodities market.
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Double tap to the head. Don't become Undead.
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1:15 pm July 6, 2011
| TasCat
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It's probably been said, but not only is this show tedious to watch because of his scamming, yeah, I noticed that too….taking some prime objects for his "museum". I think he said in the last episode that something about the glass dome would hold in some of the "Paranormal effects" of the object. I may have misheard it, due to sensory overload from the screen having the fake distortion on every scene change. I have my HDTV and paying for the price of the channels..and I get distorted visual effects put in the show, a "Squatch" could walk by in the background and I would miss it!
But finding out his relatives was quite a surprise, just think, his kids are involved in the show as well, at least his daughter on research, it's going to grow into "paranormal kudzu"…with all these groups starting up, using the same gear and also to my great aggravation, emf detection. I think that "spirit box" was just too convenient with it's results…like mentioned above.. "book" "door" "William". Now I wonder why there was no search for descendants of William's family to see if they wished to have the Mourning Brooch, it was their right, especially since no evidence of that item being donated to the museum was produced or even mentioned. Yep, he does have quite the scam going there and due to boredom, I will probably dvr it tonight if it's on and submit myself to eye torture tomorrow, how sad. I think the emf has finally got to me.
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8:22 am July 7, 2011
| TasCat
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Did you notice that Zaffis said the guy with the swords could ask for them back at any time? I guess they still check this place or people have commented on same topic if it has it's own forum. Being his aquisition of potential valuable property by claiming it's haunted. Since it was the season finale, they probably wanted to get it across that people can ask for their stuff back…who knows.
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11:35 am July 7, 2011
| Revenant
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@Tascat- Wow, welcome back. It's been a long time. 
"Slaughterhouse Ghosts" – Blah, blah, blah…the team discovers that the barn was once used as a slaughterhouse (cue shocked looks and scary music)! In perfect HC form, THAT must be the source of trouble…you know, even though every single town at that time had a slaughterhouse. You want meat? Either hunt it yourself or go to a slaughterhouse.
So we get to the weird glowing object. The team is standing around and they see something glowing on their thermal and it turns out to be a skinning knife. Why was it glowing? I don't know but that coupled with the knocking from the next episode…when you look at both of them after the hour is up, you start wondering about things. Not about proof of the paranormal, but the "participation" of the production crew as well as the HC team itself. Can I prove it? Nope. Not sure if we'll ever get a "smoking gun" unless they really pushing things and the editing crew gets sloppy. But the "paranormal" going-on's seen on the show and the lack of reaction (the "ho-hum" effect) just seems awfully weird.
Anyway…yes, the skinning knife was the culprit. Although…in the 1800's didn't every hunter have one? And by every hunter…does that include almost every single male and many females as well? You want to eat? Go out, hunt something, skin it, cook it…rinse and repeat. I'm not seeing the "evil" of the skinning knife. And the reaction to all this by the client…wow…
"Supernatural Sword" – Once they took the tour of the house, was anyone here doubting that Zaffis was going after the swords? "We don't know what sort of rituals they were used in." Rituals? Where did that come from? Who goes from swords straight to rituals? People who performed these rituals (he didn't state what sort of rituals) probably wore shoes. Does that mean every pair of old shoes that you find could have been used in rituals? Oh wait, I think it does…
Then, like I mentioned before…the knocking in response to questions. Right on cue. It was so good and so right on the mark it seemed like there was someone off camera making them. Especially when they simply "accepted" the knocking and didn't hold it up as proof of the paranormal. I mean…pretty spectacular stuff right? Most shows would stop right there and hoist that up to the heavens as evidence of something. Not HC. There is something way bigger in the season-ending script…
So…on a whim…*pauses for dramatic effect and drawing attention to how odd this next bit is*…they pull up the carpeting to check the floor. Yeah. Let me state that again….so on a whim, they pull up the carpeting to check the floor. I've seen some weird things on these shows, but that…was throwing up about every skeptical red flag in the book. Every try to just pull up carpeting with your bare hands? Difficult isn't it? And how did they knew to pull it back to that exact spot? And again…how did that even occur to you in the first place? Um…shenanigans…
Anyway…a symbol was found on the floor. The response? It's the symbol AND the swords (didn't think he was leaving without those swords did you? Can't really take the floor…). And as Tascat pointed out, he did mention that he would give them back if the client wanted them. This was new and I found that kind of interesting that he threw that in. But also interesting and something to mull over the rest of the summer…why was Zaffis able to "seal" the floor…but not the swords?
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11:46 am July 7, 2011
| Nosfer
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CrowTRobot said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the lady say she had buried the bullet out there? Why didn't they just ask her to show them where it was?
I think she said her ex-husband took it out back and buried it…but they did interview him so they could have got the whereabouts from him.
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5:19 pm July 7, 2011
| TasCat
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@Revenant: You have those episodes right on the money.. In my opinion anyway. Absolutely no glue under that carpeting, but then if this symbol was used in "Rituals" maybe the last owner wanted easy access to his altar, lol.. I really liked the red splotches as "blood effect" with what looked like small hatchet notches made in the floor as well…couldn't have been the swords, they came in after…but then the guy wasn't really forthcoming when Zaffis was giving him the Joe Friday questioning… would liked to have seen what the other detectives behind the glass would have been saying about his reaction. Looks like a little participation by the "haunted" as well, wants to make sure that lame episode gets on the air somehow..again, no proof of this, just a funny feeling along with the idea the fake interference on every scene change is to distract the viewer from things like this. Get upset with their editing, forget how pitiful the story is. I know I remember that more than most details of the episodes and have to hit the rewind button on the dvr to try to get back into the story. Just a note from the "Mourning Brooch" evidence he finds and this episode with animal spirits… I wonder if the two "Mourning Envelopes" of cat hair I have glow? Just a thought..no infrared camera to check it out though…bummer.
But yeah, I knew he had his eye on those swords right away… And maybe he sealed the symbol with salt..should make for an interesting sound whenever you walk on the carpet that didn't even look nailed down either…just held in place by the molding it seemed, maybe a tack here and there. And they did it all in the dark too! Unless my eyes were just acting up already, it seems they shined lights on the symbol. I did notice the items from the Civil War era were covered by a flexible plastic cover in his "museum".. so there goes the glass protection I thought I heard him mention in a previous episode. Actually, I think he said the glass would hopefully help contain the energy or something. This is by far one of the worst paranormal show attempts I have seen, right up there with the guys who poured gasoline in front of a cell to antagonize that spirit of the guy murdered by other inmates at the New Mexico Prison.. Where's Destination Truth? At least there was some comic relief in that show. Probably ran out of places to go.. things to investigate. <sigh>
And thank you for the welcome back, been lurking now and then, but additional health problems which I won't go into like before have kept me out of the loop. At least I'm not ready to bother J & G with false readings yet.
Waiting For the 1st annual "Squatch" calling contest by the group. Last off topic reference. :-D *
*In this post, no guarantees, but will try!
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5:40 pm July 7, 2011
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TasCat said:
Where's Destination Truth? At least there was some comic relief in that show. Probably ran out of places to go.. things to investigate.
Nope, Josh is still active, another season or half-season or whatever they call it now, is being filmed. But, as many issues as I've had with them (as have others here) I agree, I would much rather watch Josh than Zaffis.
The ones I've seen (of HC) show a man looking like he should be a doctor in some soap opera trying to console some patient's grieving relative. "I'm sorry Mrs. Tannenbaum, we had to amputate your husband's head. I won't lie to you, the chances aren't good, but I'll do everything I can." Cue Hug.
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10:00 am July 9, 2011
| Learjet
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That was a bizarre finale. I do get the impression there are a lot of things going on behind the scenes in this last episode. There's just too many coincidences.
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