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9:54 am
January 7, 2011
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The greatest mystery about this series is, were they separated at birth?
 
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1:36 pm
January 7, 2011
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Revenant
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What's with that guy rockin' the Albert Einstein haircut? On second thought…would it actually be considered a haircut?
Also…has anyone ever seen that guy in a different suit? I mentioned that as a joke in another thread, but really…I can't remember him being dressed in anything else. Maybe he hangs out with the FoF crew who rarely changes their clothes as well…
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2:11 pm
January 7, 2011
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Patrick
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Revenant said:
What's with that guy rockin' the Albert Einstein haircut? On second thought…would it actually be considered a haircut?
Also…has anyone ever seen that guy in a different suit? I mentioned that as a joke in another thread, but really…I can't remember him being dressed in anything else. Maybe he hangs out with the FoF crew who rarely changes their clothes as well…
You know, I don't think I have seen him in anything else. Maybe he lives in his car. There is no justice in the world when someone like that or Snookie get their own TV show and the rest of us are just workin' for da man.
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3:36 pm
January 7, 2011
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Revenant said:
What's with that guy rockin' the Albert Einstein haircut? On second thought…would it actually be considered a haircut?
Also…has anyone ever seen that guy in a different suit? I mentioned that as a joke in another thread, but really…I can't remember him being dressed in anything else. Maybe he hangs out with the FoF crew who rarely changes their clothes as well…
Haircut might be a stretch…I'm reminded of a troll doll but with less colorful hair
As for that suit, since none of these people are on cam all-hour but are only giving little sound bites in an attempt to outdo each other in the outrageous claims department, it's very possible that each person was just "interviewed" one time and the producers tried to clip out ramblings from each of them that seemed to address something similar and then made an episode out of them.
I've not commented on this show much (at all?) because it's pretty much impossible to say anything about it as a whole. One could take one particular aspect of it, or one set of statements and go to town with it, but just what would you choose, it's like a candy store!
I enjoy watching it as they occasionally mention something that I then like to research and find out the actuality of rather than their colorful interpretation! It's also fun to pick apart their contradictions.
For example, much ado was made of the Baghdad battery, showing the ancients had a grasp of simple electricity and they point to Egyptian carvings of what could be a lightbulb and show that torches won't burn in the dark corridors thus proving that the battery was for powering these lightbulbs.. Then in another episode (or the same one) the Great Pyramid had a role as a great generator of plasma energy which could be beamed to ships in space sort of like a filling-station. Quite a pair of bookends, no?
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3:58 pm
January 7, 2011
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Patrick
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There is certainly an odd dichotomy in this show. On one hand, Mr. Oompa Loompa. On the other, they do bring forth several reputable scientists that completely blow the whole ancient astronaut thing (can't even call it a theory) out of the water.
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4:14 pm
January 7, 2011
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You can still tell which way the wind blows on that show, though. Definitely a bias. The "reputable scientists" are pretty few and far between unfortunately. Now if they would bring in more and some more reputable ones and give them equal time it would help.
A debate would not help, you can't really debate "realtime" against people like Tsoukalos or Childress. There is almost no comeback for some of their spoutings…or at least no comebacks that wouldn't get bleeped LOL
One I liked was Childress? talking about these stone columns/markers and how they had to be a roadmap for someone from above…in a spaaaaaceship! Would a species with a level of technology high enough for interstellar travel rely on rocks on the ground to point them where to go between places? hint: "NO!!!"
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2:29 am
January 8, 2011
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I find it funny that these "reputable scientists" claim that during various stages in mans history, E.T.s would visit them and make their prescence known to them. But once man started having certain types of technology they decided to drop the "show yourself to everyone" deal and just randomly select a few people with sleep paralysis to take for a ride and show them the truth and offering them a free colonic.
Has anyone suggested the History channel be renamed Conspiracy Central yet?
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5:14 pm
January 10, 2011
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Somehow this "Ancient Alien" theory really bothers me. I just find it so….I'm searching for the right word here. Absurd is one, but there's more to it than that.
Why do so many people find it hard to accept the FACT that Ancient Civilizations (i.e., Egypt, Mayans, Aztecs etc.) possessed the necessary skills, expertise and dedication to produce the wonderful edifices we see today? Yes, we still don't understand how they were able to build some monuments without benefit of modern technology. What comes to mind is the ability of the ancient Incans to place stones together so precisely that a credit card will not fit between them. But does this mean that they needed the help of Ancient Aliens to do it? Of course not!
One critic of this theory is Prof. Bob Brier, a/k/a Mr. Mummy, who also considers the alien idea ridiculous. The fact that some hieroglyphics on pyramid stones translate into "This side up", "Stone #125 goes on top of Stone #123" and so on should be enough to blow the idea out of the water. Add to that the discovery of villages built to accommodate workers while they labored on the pyramids should also be a hint that these are totally man-made structures.
Maybe I'm too sensitive, but I think the ancient peoples are being done a great dishonor by the idea that they were incapable of producing their civilization and its outward manifestations without alien assistance. No one questions the fact that the great cathedrals of medieval Europe were designed and built by humans.
Grrr…
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If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
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6:42 pm
January 10, 2011
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Revenant
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Oubliette said:
Grrr…
Oubliette? Diogenes? What year is this? What…what is going on? Wow…did I accidently hit something on the WABAC machine?
Oh…and if you guys were going for ghosts of Xmas past…then you're WAY late…
Welcome back…
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6:50 pm
January 10, 2011
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Hey Oubliette! Nice to see you posting again!! I must say that I agree with you about "…the ancient peoples being done a great dishonor by the idea that they were incapable of producing their civilization… without alien assistance." There were some amazing civilizations in the past, and to blow them off by saying that aliens were responsible is ignorant at best. I sometimes watch Ancient Aliens just to see what kind of wierdness is working its way through the minds? of these people. It's entertainment to me, but better than GA! (The hair does drive me crazy though. I can't take him seriously at all. I keep thinking that he wants to think of himself-and wants people to think of him- as the Einstein of alien theories, and he's clearly NOT.)
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11:02 am
January 11, 2011
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Oubliette
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You mean it's the year 2011????? No, it can't be!
All I know is that we were driving along one night and this bright light appeared above the car. The next thing I can remember is lying on a table surrounded by grayish beings with large eyes. Somehow I was able to read their thoughts, and they mine. They informed me I was to take part in an experiment, and the next thing I knew Diogenes and myself were seated in front of a large TV screen. We were unable to move, held in place by some invisible force.
Suddenly, the very first episode of Ghost Hunters started to play. This was followed by episode after episode, all the same as the ones before except that the cast kept changing.  By the time the last one aired, we were near to being blabbering idiots. Next, GHI started to play. Episode after episode…The final experiment involved some kind of weird show called "Fact or Faked" which would have had us tearing our hair out-if we had been able to move. Mermaids, a moon landing, a spider in its web! Oh, the Horror!
The next thing I knew, I was sitting by my computer and reading about how this show was trying to prove that Ancient Aliens mentored civilizations of the past and taught them everything they knew…It was just too much to take. And so here I am again, back to wreak havoc on the unsuspecting victims of Fear Cages.
Seriously, thanks for the welcome back. Too much going on that demanded our full attention. I've really missed you guys, and have noticed that there are some new victims-I mean people here that are providing much food for thought.
Many thanks to the History Channel and its take on why ancient peoples were incapable of anything but planting corn kernels and watching them grow. Brought me right back from out of my stupor.
Honestly, we missed the Ghosts of Christmas Past? Darn, I was looking forward to an interesting EVP session.
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11:40 am
January 11, 2011
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Welcome Back! Yep, 2011 already, that means only about 408 shopping days until the end of the universe as we knew it. I'm not worried, though, I'm working with a select group of Orionids to be transported off the planet into another dimension on November 1st 2012. Why that date? Well, I don't want to miss the Live Investigation from the front seat of my Dodge.
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3:35 pm
January 11, 2011
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Oubliette said:
You mean it's the year 2011????? No, it can't be!
All I know is that we were driving along one night and this bright light appeared above the car. The next thing I can remember is lying on a table surrounded by grayish beings with large eyes. Somehow I was able to read their thoughts, and they mine. They informed me I was to take part in an experiment, and the next thing I knew Diogenes and myself were seated in front of a large TV screen. We were unable to move, held in place by some invisible force.
Suddenly, the very first episode of Ghost Hunters started to play. This was followed by episode after episode, all the same as the ones before except that the cast kept changing. By the time the last one aired, we were near to being blabbering idiots. Next, GHI started to play. Episode after episode…The final experiment involved some kind of weird show called "Fact or Faked" which would have had us tearing our hair out-if we had been able to move. Mermaids, a moon landing, a spider in its web! Oh, the Horror!
The next thing I knew, I was sitting by my computer and reading about how this show was trying to prove that Ancient Aliens mentored civilizations of the past and taught them everything they knew…It was just too much to take. And so here I am again, back to wreak havoc on the unsuspecting victims of Fear Cages.
Seriously, thanks for the welcome back. Too much going on that demanded our full attention. I've really missed you guys, and have noticed that there are some new victims-I mean people here that are providing much food for thought.
Many thanks to the History Channel and its take on why ancient peoples were incapable of anything but planting corn kernels and watching them grow. Brought me right back from out of my stupor.
Honestly, we missed the Ghosts of Christmas Past? Darn, I was looking forward to an interesting EVP session.
All it took was some good ol' fashioned alien probing and pictures of Oompa Loompas to bring you back. Glad I could be of service. For the Oompa Loompas that is. I disclaim any and all role in the alien probing….
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3:02 am
January 12, 2011
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Welcome back Oubli and Diogenes!
I watched "Ancient Astronauts" (the disaster episode) mere minutes ago, and I learned a terrifying truth: Erich Von Daniken is still alive and still apparently considered trustworthy enough (despite his fraud conviction) to appear on TV.
Also, we appear to be on a time-loop and have re-entered the Seventies. "Ancient Astronauts" is "In Search Of" without the charisma of Leonard Nimoy. It's a Gish Gallop of a show, each random assertion covered by a fig-leaf "perhaps". My favorite moment came when they claimed that perhaps a bunch of really smart people, like Einstein, Oppenheimer, and Leonardo Da Vinci were contacted by aliens, because… well, because they were really smart. Oh, and that 80% of our genetics comes from aliens. Did the aliens upgrade gorillas, chimps, and orangutans while they were at it?
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9:42 am
January 12, 2011
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Funny how, I believe, that 80% is simply not understood. It's function or purpose is not known (another show likened it to the Appendix, possibly simply some leftover vestige) It is not known. Stop. But no, they do the Arguing by Ignorants and say: It is not known, therefore it's planted in us by Aliens. If I had a nickel…
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9:48 am
January 12, 2011
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Post edited 9:50 am – January 12, 2011 by Oubliette
Post edited 9:51 am – January 12, 2011 by Oubliette
Gee, thanks Patrick! I think….
I too watched last night's show. My husband almost forced me to watch the episode last night as he likes to listen to my less than ladylike language that only this program can elicit from my otherwise constrained self. I can barely sit through this show because it gives me the greatest urge to throw something at the TV.
It surprised me as well that Von Daniken is still with us. Not that I wish the man harm, but what is disturbing is that he is still spouting the same nonsense that he did way back when his book first hit the shelves and caused such a sensation. You think the man would have learned something from the advances in archaeology since then; our knowledge of Ancient Egypt, for instance, has grown by leaps and bounds in the last decade. Yet nothing seems to have changed his mind in the least. I would have some respect for him if he admitted that at least some of his suppositions have been proven wrong. That's part of what real science is about.
Making the assumption that men like Da Vinci et al received their knowledge from aliens that must have been whispering in their ears is a leap that even Gulliver would have been incapable of performing. Why is it that some people have a problem with acknowledging such a thing as "genius"?
I could go on about the show last night but Stephen has brought up the most disturbing parts
of what Mr. Oompa Loompa had to say. Eighty per cent alien? Guess someone needs to clue him in on DNA and the Human Genome Project.
Another Grrrrr for this show
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9:59 am
January 12, 2011
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Patrick
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Stephen said:
I watched "Ancient Astronauts" (the disaster episode) mere minutes ago, and I learned a terrifying truth: Erich Von Daniken is still alive and still apparently considered trustworthy enough (despite his fraud conviction) to appear on TV.
So all I have to do is plagarize H. P Lovecraft, call it fact, and I can sell 60 million books world wide and get my own TV show? Well, to that I say " Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"!
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10:30 am
January 12, 2011
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Don't get me wrong, I do not for one minute believe in the ancient astronaut theory. I agree with Oubliette that ancient people were smarter than we give them credit for and we just don't know how they did what they did, but somehow they did it. But, I have to defend Souki for his passion at what he believes in and in his work. Not many people have that, especially people who work in an office doing paperwork all day. It's nice to see someone who's passionate about what they believe in and the work they do. I find it refreshing. I wish we could all feel that way about what we do in our lives. Trust me, I know, I file papers for a living at an insurance company…no passion whatsoever!
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12:36 pm
January 12, 2011
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Revenant
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Trixie said:
But, I have to defend Souki for his passion at what he believes in and in his work.
Who?
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