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12:52 pm November 17, 2009
| Nosfer
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Well, sort of explained. Well, listed anyway. Drowning…not being able to breath…perhaps the answer is as simple as having your head too far under the covers or you managed to face-plant yourself into the pillow so that you truly CANNOT breath and the sensation works it's way into the dream as drowning etc. I know from experience that this can happen. Dream explanation is NOT one size/explanation fits all. Enjoy, though:
http://astrocenter.astrology.msn.com/msn/ArticleAstrologyHomeV2.aspx?sd=20091117>1=21001
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1:41 pm November 17, 2009
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Interesting topic Nosfer. I think we can all agree we face problems at all different levels in every day life but there is absolutely nothing psychic about understanding our dreams. It comes down to using the basic skills of logic, combined with a degree of knowledge and common sense to make interpretations of our individual dreams understandable to each of us. It is definitely not a "one size fits all" explanation just as it is definitely not psychic.
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3:32 pm November 17, 2009
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Thanks Nosfer. Dreams have always fascinated me. I have had every one of those type of dreams, including the recurring nightmares. (Sometimes all at once )
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3:49 pm November 17, 2009
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Interesting. I personally don't buy into "dreams have meaning."
For the not breathing/drowning, I used to have this one a lot, more as I got older. About 8 or 9 years ago I went to Vegas with some friends, one of whom is a MD, and he advised me that I have sleep apnea. I had a study done and it turned out that, at that time, I would stop breathing for 30 – 75 seconds at a time all throughout the night. That explained my waking up gasping for air After I got treatment, the dreams stopped.
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3:54 pm November 17, 2009
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I won't completely say that dreams have no meanings but it's up to the person to examine his/her own dream him/herself. For example, I can recall a dream in college where my brain apparently continued to work on a calculus problem after I went to sleep. I solved and understood it in the dream and retained that when I awoke. The knowledge was nothing that came from without, though…no external intervention, divine or otherwise in this case.
Your sleep apnea example is a very good one of where external real things can work their way into the dream and manifest themselves as some sort of event. On a lesser ramification note…I've had alarms, phones, and car horns do the same thing.
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3:58 pm November 17, 2009
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Let me clarify, it isn't that dreams don't have meaning. I just don't think they are messages from the future, the astral plane, etc.
My dreams were happening for a reason. But not because I had a fear of drowning, or I drowned in a past life. It was cause and effect. I wasn't breathing for real, and my dream reflected that!
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4:00 pm November 17, 2009
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Nosfer said:
For example, I can recall a dream in college where my brain apparently continued to work on a calculus problem after I went to sleep. I solved and understood it in the dream and retained that when I awoke.
Nosfer!!!! I tried that so many times in college but it never worked!
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4:11 pm November 17, 2009
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Bobarino,
I had the study done as well a few years ago. Mild case but recommended the mask as treatment anyway which I declined. Did you go that route? If so, how long? Just curious. Thanks.
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4:16 pm November 17, 2009
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They said I had a mild case as well.
At first I tried the mask, but I really had a hard time with it. So then I went in and had Somnoplasty done. It helped for a while, but with time it came back. I am now back to the mask, but only use it sometimes (when "the boss" tells me I'm too loud). With time, it has made the condition better, but I really hate using it with a passion.
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4:19 pm November 17, 2009
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Oops I didn't say how long.
- I tried the mask for 6 months.
- The had Somnoplasty, was without the mask for about a year, year and a half
- Went back to a mask, on and off for 5 years now. It isn't the regular mask, it is something that covers the nose only
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4:24 pm November 17, 2009
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Thanks Bobarino. I felt I would have a problem with it myself and declined. Sorry to hear you had to go through everything you did and then felt better only to have to go back to it. At least it's made the condition better. I totally understand your feelings about it though. Frankly, I never understood why it was called a "sleep test" though. Mine was more like a "sleepless test". To make matters worse, I had it done at the hospital where I was working. I made them promise not to run the feed through the hospital system! 
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11:00 pm November 17, 2009
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LOL!
Well, during my "test" I was sleeping soundly (so I thought). Evidentially I had stopped breathing for about 50 seconds, so the male nurse ran in to attach a breathing tube or something. All I know is I woke up with someone running toward me quickly with hands extended towards my face. Damn near knocked him out.
I sent an apology card later that week.
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1:54 am November 18, 2009
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Oh my! LOL Can't say as I had that experience. That's a pretty frightening yet understandable one. I just remember at 5:30 a.m., when they told me to leave, I asked if they were sure because I knew I hadn't slept and wasn't going through it a second time. They assured me I slept enough to do the test but I told them they must have added a minute here, a minute there together and complied it for the entire night. I'm sure you felt, as I did, like a Thanksgiving turkey. I just could not get comfortable. And, since I had longer hair, I was still peeling glue off my scalp the next day. Fortunately it was a Saturday morning and I could throw on a pair of jeans and go down two floors to my office and work a few hours with virtually no one around before I went to the sitter's.
Nice you sent an apology card. The most they got from me was their employment contracts were accurate. Maybe that's why a tape never surfaced! LOL
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7:12 am November 22, 2009
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Nice link, Nosfer.
Interesting: To be a top 10 list, there are five I don't recall having:
drowning, divorce (although I went through a real one), being injured, teeth falling out, and natural disasters.
otoh, I've had some crazy dreams that make no sense at all.
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9:05 am November 22, 2009
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There were at least three that I've never had, and at least one other that was almost a miss unless I really stretch the "etc" There are others that I've had (not on the list) with more frequency, but not really something I'd call nightmares. In fact, of the ones on the list, only about 3 that I've had I'd really call nightmares…sometimes (Depending upon the circumstances of the dream)
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3:14 am December 13, 2009
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Very intersting. I used to have the naked in public dream until I started taking classes where I had to often get in front of people and speak. As I got more experienced, the dreams went away, so I guess that it makes sense that is a confidence issue.
Getting hurt. Hmm. I have had dreams where I fight and will actually feel pain in my dreams. I once even had the falling dream, but I actually landed and was OK. Still hurt in the dream though. The hurt areas are not in recurring area, so don't know how to interpret that.
Ah, the sleep mask. I also had a sleep study done, and I was into the upper moderate range. I actually sleep better with the mask, but it makes falling asleep harder for me. I'm already a borderline insomniac (I get by on like 4-6 hours of sleep a night no problem), so I need to be really tired to use the mask without being annoyed. I use it mostly becuase the wife gets concerned when I stop breathing for 30-60 seconds at a time. Plus I apparently snore loudly.
One thing the article sort of touched on was episodic dreams (they recounted recurring dreams). I often have episodic dream 'series', both scary and non-scary. They can occur for me in consecutive nights or with spaces in between up to weeks. The fun part is the more I have the same dream 'series', the more I can control. Not quite to the lucid level of dreaming, but enough to influence events a bit. Fun! I think the best was where I was a knight (armor and all) defending a castle from demons, dragons, and Nazis. The inside of the castle was shaped like my old middle school building, and all I had was a sword. No, I have no idea why or how that dream series came to be.
The other strange thing is I always dream in color.
To Nosfer- I've also done some of that mental sleep processing. Think about a problem long enough, and my brain keeps going even whem I'm sleeping. Next morning, I don't have a "eureka!" moment, but the problem is suddenly easier. Also, when I get into playing a game, or fall asleep watching a show, I often incorporate those into my dreams. The best one was when I was playing Lego Star Wars for around 6 hours until I was exhausted (gotta love free weekends) and I felll asleep to NCIS. I dreampt that I was part of the NCIS team and we had to solve a mystery by using Lego bricks in a Lego house. Luckily, Zeva was not a block figure! Gibbs did smack me, though.
Oh, by the way, this is my first post. I like the tone of the site, as I used to be a big TV paranormal fan and started finding it dumber and more sensational over time. GH is getting to the point of "why do I bother?" GA is still fun because those 3 are just maniacs. My new favorite is "The Haunted" on Animal Planet, mainly because doggies show up a lot, and I like the doggies. I watched Extreme Paranormal with the wife, well for 20 some minutes until she said something along the lines of "this is a bunch of poo", and got a real kick out of that. I was waiting for them to pull out some C4 and bazookas to REALLY crank up the "energy". I went between staring at the TV in horror and almost falling off the chair from laughing so hard.
Anyway, hi. Nice place you have here, and I look forward to hanging around, if everyone is OK with that.
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