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10:59 am October 1, 2009
| Logisti
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Discovery has a new series coming out called "Ghost Lab", premiering next week. Now, I am a big fan of Discovery Channel and I think shows like Destination: Truth and Ghost Hunters would do better there because there are just a LOT of cynics who won't even engage in a serious discussion simply because they are on the SciFi (now: SyFy) channel.
That being said, my concern isn't that this show will lack credibility — being on Discovery will probably mean this show is taken more seriously than any other paranormal investigatory show — I'm concerned that perhaps Discovery has jumped on this paranormal bandwagon and may end up hurting their own credibility by associating themselves with a group of completely unscientific investigators who just make things up as they go along, tell their viewers it's science, and possibly even partake in some hoaxing. You know, just like if they'd signed Ghost Hunters (Hey, I said being on Discovery would help GH's credibility, I didn't say what it might do to Discovery's).
But I don't know anything about the investigation team so perhaps my fears are entirely unfounded and if we're lucky maybe this will be something close to what many have been asking after for some time now: a truly scientific approach to ghost hunting.
We'll have a pretty good idea one way or another soon enough.
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11:24 am October 1, 2009
| Mary
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Before I got Dish TV, and was living in the Innocent - yet Uninformed - Land of Over-the-Air Network TV, I was under the impression that the History Channel was credible, too.
Then I watched UFO Hunters.
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"Quando omni flunkus moritati" ("When all else fails, play dead") – Possum Lodge motto. Jason and Grant should adopt it as their own.
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12:53 pm October 1, 2009
| Logisti
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Mary said:
Before I got Dish TV, and was living in the Innocent - yet Uninformed - Land of Over-the-Air Network TV, I was under the impression that the History Channel was credible, too.
Then I watched UFO Hunters.
True, and Discovery used to have that show "A Haunting" where it was basically a super-dramatized teleplay of personal accounts as told by the family. Having watched Ghost Hunters since Season One, I've never heard a single one of their clients describe any experiences remotely as harrowing as the stuff portrayed on "A Haunting" — which would lead me to believe the dramatizations might be a little too dramatized. We shall see what quality Discovery has put its good name on this time.
As for UFO Hunters, that show's saving grace is always having a skeptic as part of the team — of course, I miss Ted Acworth. He seemed like a genuine skeptic who would take all the claims seriously but come up with a fair dividing line between what we can reasonably conclude and what's just plain speculation. Kevin Cook seems a little more lax in his skeptical duties to keep Bill from loosing his inner looney and labeling it fact.
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2:50 pm October 1, 2009
| blinddog
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Can't wait to see that trailer load of goodies that they've got.
http://www.futoncritic.com/showatch.aspx?id=ghost_lab
Sounds like it has everything except an ex-stripper.
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Double tap to the head. Don't become Undead.
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4:10 am October 2, 2009
| Revenant
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Mary said:
Before I got Dish TV, and was living in the Innocent - yet Uninformed - Land of Over-the-Air Network TV, I was under the impression that the History Channel was credible, too.
Then I watched UFO Hunters.
Actually…and unforunately, the History Channel has a rather large array of nonsense. Or perhaps I should say a bevy of pseudo-science and a large array of "I don't know why this is on the 'History ' Channel" type of shows.
As for "Ghost Lab"…I'll give it a fair shot. With any paranormal show, I try to go in as objective as possible. Wait…no, that's not true. "Hot Girls In Scary Places" suddenly comes to mind. Yeah…maybe I wasn't so objective going into that one…
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"Skepticism is not a position, it's a process." -Dr Michael Shermer
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5:38 am October 2, 2009
| Angelayo1970
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I can't wait for the sequel to that program "Scary Girls in Hot Places". Imagine the possibilities…
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"In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." -Galileo Galilei
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6:39 am October 2, 2009
| Mary
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Would those scary girls be The First Daughters of Spain?
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"Quando omni flunkus moritati" ("When all else fails, play dead") – Possum Lodge motto. Jason and Grant should adopt it as their own.
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7:17 am October 2, 2009
| Angelayo1970
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Could be…or the Olson twins…they live in Southern California…
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"In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." -Galileo Galilei
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8:11 am October 2, 2009
| Drache Frau
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I may be asking a dumb question, but why is it called 'Ghost Lab'? Are they dissecting ghoulies now? I thought that the fact that they have no bodies might hinder that. Or, maybe, they're trying to discover chemicals that make ghosts more visible. I'm joking, of course. I was just curious on why it's called lab unless they were actually trying to do something in a laboratory? …a haunted laboratory? 
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Ghost, n. The outward and visible sign of an inward fear.
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9:38 am October 2, 2009
| Angelayo1970
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Good question Frau. If I had to guess, I'd say the use of the word "lab" would indicate their scientific approach. And (she says with more than just a hint of skepticism) I seem to remember another team of investigators who proudly proclaimed their scientific bent when their show first began! It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out.
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"In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." -Galileo Galilei
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10:20 am October 2, 2009
| blinddog
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See the link in post #4.
It might explain the term 'lab' in this instance.
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10:23 am October 2, 2009
| Mary
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Okay. Now I have the Monster Mash song running through my brain, and it won't go away.
"I was working in my lab, late one night, when my eyes beheld an eerie sight…"
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"Quando omni flunkus moritati" ("When all else fails, play dead") – Possum Lodge motto. Jason and Grant should adopt it as their own.
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1:31 pm October 2, 2009
| Drache Frau
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Oh no! Now it's stuck in my head! I'm going to have to go and watch all my childrens Halloween movies now. Oh! Disney Channel should be doing their Halloween movie thing! YES! *throws fist in the air from excitement about her childish movie taste*
And, thank you BD, that link does help. I was on a work computer earlier and couldn't look up the link, then I forgot about it. So the van is their lab. Interesting. 
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Ghost, n. The outward and visible sign of an inward fear.
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2:07 pm October 2, 2009
| blinddog
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A little more info on the Ghost Lab group.
http://www.everydayparanormal.com
Even have their own K9 unit.
Don't have to borrow a dog like GHI.
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2:15 pm October 2, 2009
| Drache Frau
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Well, that's definately interesting. Maybe we'll see if dogs can really sense things paranormal. If they can sense when a person is about to stroke than they could probably sense a ghost.
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Ghost, n. The outward and visible sign of an inward fear.
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3:00 pm October 2, 2009
| alicat
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Thanks for the link BD. Interesting.
Revenant, sorry to say, I've never seen "Hot Girls in Scary Places". I've always thought you were quite objective but somehow that's just so wrong. 
Now, as far as "Ghost Lab", there are so many things I find wrong with these two (and yet somehow they sound so familiar) but I will limit my comments to three.
First, is it a pre-requisite to have such an obnoxious ego? Already a turn off – been there, put up with that, not interested.
Second, right up front, after their "ego" statement in the right column, they are selling merchandise. Ugh! A true warning sign.
Third, the K-9 unit, very first sentence. "Animals are said to be sensitive to paranormal activity." Are they serious? When did anyone ever make that statement to the world? Where is the documentation to back that up? The proof? Never in my life have I ever heard anyone make that claim. That alone speaks volumes to me as to what is in store with this show. Wait…. wait…. my dog is staring at the living room chair…. she's starting to move towards the door…. she's hitting the bells on the door…. oh, she just wants to go outside to tell me her feelings on the subject…. back in a few minutes….
Okay, we're back. For just those 3 reasons alone, I'm out and so is my dog (she told me so). 
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3:42 pm October 2, 2009
| Drache Frau
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Yes, they did have obnoxiously big heads for people who's show hasn't even started yet. Another thing that bothers me is they said that "we have been able to capture some of the most earth-shattering evidence ever known in paranormal research by employing these techniques" hmmm…
I still would like to see the dogs, but I can watch the entire 'puppy bowl' on Animal Planet and not get bored (and I have…twice)
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Ghost, n. The outward and visible sign of an inward fear.
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3:48 pm October 2, 2009
| Drache Frau
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Sorry to post again, but I just noticed…they have their own official hair stylists??? I haven't even had my hair cut in over a year!
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Ghost, n. The outward and visible sign of an inward fear.
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4:21 pm October 2, 2009
| alicat
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Drache Frau,
I agree with you. There were just so many obnoxious claims and the paragraphs following the inital sentence in the K-9 that followed… oh boy! Glad to know they were just normal, family pets and not "specially trained" although I'm not sure what that means. "Specially trained" in the paranormal? And how exactly would that be done? And, if they can "specially train" a dog, why don't they just start with human beings and I'm sure we can name a few here.
Also loved the reference to bringing one of 4 dogs to the investigation site yet there are only 3 dogs listed. Is the other a "specially trained" ghost dog? Come on now. 
Nothing wrong with the Puppy Bowl. Haven't seen it but have seen previews of it. Puppies just have that aww factor that's hard to resist.
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