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Ghost Lab S01E06 Granbury Opera House / Garfield Furniture

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9:36 pm
November 11, 2009


Learjet

Australia

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Is this series just getting more silly episode by episode or is it me?

Does anyone have the ratings for this comedy? I can't see it making season 2.

OD'd on EMF

10:04 pm
November 11, 2009


dconlly

Investigator in Training

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I keep telling myself each week that I won't watch it, but I find myself yearning to see what assinine hypothesis will be tested out, and hear the new catch phrase. Alas, I think the electronic net has either shorted out or has a huge gapping hole, for I doubtr even it can bring haul in another season for this extreme ghost hunting show.

1:18 am
November 12, 2009


Learjet

Australia

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The EVP they hear so clearly, and dance around like circus clowns over, doesn't even sound like a voice to me, let alone pick out any words. Even the "expert" they called would only give it a 70 – 80 percent chance of it being a voice and even he couldn't make out any words. Maybe we need those special Klingon ears to hear this stuff!

OD'd on EMF

9:32 am
November 12, 2009


The Doctor

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Learjet said:

The EVP they hear so clearly, and dance around like circus clowns over, doesn't even sound like a voice to me, let alone pick out any words.


I've made an attempt to take a normal voice and use combinations of noise reductions, notch filters etc to get close to what they call voices, but no joy.  Anyone else try this ?

Best guess I need a " Cylon with marbles in his mouth " effect.

But I was able to create a detailed mental image of Barry getting hit by the Ghost of a Greyhound bus as he dances through the street like a lunatic.

10:24 am
November 12, 2009


Nosfer

Rotaredom

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I am going to give these folks a grain of a compliment, though. Since the 'expert' could not say what was being said (if anything was being said) it shows at least that GL apparently did NOT try to lead him by saying, "here, can you analyze this EVP we got that says he's John Wilkes Booth"

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10:51 am
November 12, 2009


blinddog

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GL apparently did NOT try to lead him by saying, "here, can you analyze this EVP we got that says he's John Wilkes Booth"


Nosfer, Are you trying to imply that 'other' shows may be guilty of this?

Double tap to the head. Don't become Undead.

11:15 am
November 12, 2009


Nosfer

Rotaredom

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blinddog50 said:

GL apparently did NOT try to lead him by saying, "here, can you analyze this EVP we got that says he's John Wilkes Booth"


Nosfer, Are you trying to imply that 'other' shows may be guilty of this?


Well, one of the theories out there… lol

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11:48 am
November 12, 2009


The Doctor

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Nosfer said:

I am going to give these folks a grain of a compliment, though. Since the 'expert' could not say what was being said (if anything was being said) it shows at least that GL apparently did NOT try to lead him by saying, "here, can you analyze this EVP we got that says he's John Wilkes Booth"


I noticed a while ago that GH names their EVP files things like  "  Get_Out.mp3 "

GL could very well have done the same thing, but perhaps the analyser had gotten bitten by skeptics sending him files named with those "mental cues".  When he uses his expert opinion to say he hears the same thing, they reveal that it was actually their dishwasher overflowing. 

12:08 pm
November 12, 2009


avidmike

Florida

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I guess I am in the minority here but I look forward to Ghost Lab each week.  They don't open the show pretending to fix plumbing.  They seem to have more excitement and energy than GH and GHI combined.  I haven't seen them waste 5 minutes being scared of spiders, flying or betting money on whether or not Tango will crawl under something or eat a dried up brownie.  And I like that they spend days at a location instead of a few hours.

My wife and I Tivo all of the paranormal shows and find ourselves fast-forwarding through the beginning of GH more and more.  Jason looks so BORED.  I truly think he needs to be replaced.  At least Ghost Lab is fast paced regardless of how stupid their "science" is.  GH and GHI both put me to sleep.

"If you push something hard enough it will fall over" – Fudd's First Law

3:26 pm
November 12, 2009


Nosfer

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They really DO have some potential and at least come up with some "theories" (unlike groups which simply reference some theory that is "out there"), but they keep falling off the mountain before they get to the top…or even to the treeline.

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3:43 pm
November 12, 2009


MauveHarlet

Indiana

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Seriously, I have to watch this show with a bit of sketicism. I have a hard time finding the evidence that they put forth as valid. Although, I DO love the concepts that they come up with. They are innovative and doing something different – Rather than, "Ok, let's go lights out and talk to possible entities for an hour."

"I'm not scared of the dark, I'm scared of what I can't see in it."

4:05 pm
November 12, 2009


Nosfer

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MauveHarlet said:

Seriously, I have to watch this show with a bit of sketicism. I have a hard time finding the evidence that they put forth as valid. Although, I DO love the concepts that they come up with. They are innovative and doing something different – Rather than, "Ok, let's go lights out and talk to possible entities for an hour."


That is true, at least there isn't as much of a formula or set script being used yet. Although, all this just makes me a bit more frustrated with the show…they have the potential, they are willing to try things, come up with different things, but then just completely mangle the process of proving or disproving their "theories" Worse, they actually come to a conclusion when the whole process and assumptions they use are horrendously bad :(

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4:08 pm
November 12, 2009


MauveHarlet

Indiana

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I agree. It's almost like they need way more time to get down and dirty to prove these theories. For example, the one with the EMF coming off the Murky lake water? Awesome idea, very interesting findings, but did they really, truly prove anything? Not in my eyes… Just good ideas, with some interesting (POSSIBLE) corrilations… Hm.

"I'm not scared of the dark, I'm scared of what I can't see in it."

4:14 pm
November 12, 2009


The Doctor

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MauveHarlet said:

Seriously, I have to watch this show with a bit of sketicism. I have a hard time finding the evidence that they put forth as valid. Although, I DO love the concepts that they come up with. They are innovative and doing something different – Rather than, "Ok, let's go lights out and talk to possible entities for an hour."


Agree, and I might even be able to put up with Barry's 12-year old behavior IF it appeared they were actually getting somewhere.

They set up a Tesla coil in Tombstone and declare that they have supercharged the area for paranormal activity and the use of it was a big success -

WELL – then use the damn thing EVERY time and drag Casper out of wherever he's hiding … Duh

4:24 pm
November 12, 2009


Learjet

Australia

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MauveHarlet said:

I agree. It's almost like they need way more time to get down and dirty to prove these theories. For example, the one with the EMF coming off the Murky lake water? Awesome idea, very interesting findings, but did they really, truly prove anything?


Yes, the datalogger EMF meters proved the EMF was coming from the house, not the river. They interpreted them incorrectly. We've been over this in the other thread.

OD'd on EMF

5:31 pm
November 12, 2009


BrendaLee

Thousand Oaks, CA

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I feel like they want to use science, they think they use science, yet they don't quite use it correctly.  I also think they would be quite offended to hear that critique.

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." – Dr. Seuss

5:45 pm
November 12, 2009


Nosfer

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If one hopes to learn, one must grow another layer of skin and learn. If no one tells you what you're doing wrong (or you refuse to listen), you're never going to improve.

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10:47 am
November 13, 2009


Oubliette

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OK, I have to admit that in some strange way, I like these guys.  Yeah, they tend to get over-excited about some "evidence".  I too don't think that JWB EVP was even a voice.  But they were so thrilled I would hate to break the news to them that it didn't sound to me like it said "John Wilkes Booth".

Some things I like:

They take their evidence to experts who are not necessarily involved with the paranormal field.

They fall somewhere between the apathy of J & G and the over-the-top Zak and Company.  They seem to have it just right, at least as far as a TV show is concerned.

They're not wimps.

And there is that disclaimer before each show that nothing has been manipulated or manufactured.  OK, maybe it doesn't mean anything, but can GH, PS and some other shows put that up?

What impressed me the most was the episode in which they got one of the team to try and duplicate an EVP.  They then analyzed the human voice alongside the EVP and were able to determine that both existed in far different frequencies, with the EVP being so low as to be impossible for the human ear to pick up.  I found the test and the results impressive.  Whatever that EVP was, it wasn't somebody faking it.  Perhaps more work should be done with studying EVPs to determine more of a complete picture as to their most common frequencies and go on from there.  Might be a start as far as serious research goes.

Really thought I would hate this show, but even when they do kind of far out things, they still don't rub me the wrong way.  At least not yet.

If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
Anatole France

11:27 am
November 13, 2009


Nosfer

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I agree, Oubliette, this show is a bit refreshing even if in that nothing else they have a "different" style of doing things. Some of their experts are a bit questionable, but at least they are bringing evidence to outsiders instead of keeping it close-chested.

They are willing to try more things though they need to do some major improvements in carry-through on that. The disclaimer on the front may not mean too much but at least it's there. And really, everything they've presented, I think is legit…legit in that they actually filmed/recorded something that they had no involvement in the creation of. I don't really anything they've caught is legit in the sense that it was paranormal, but at least it was captured "as is"

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