Hey folks, did anyone do a standing count on how many times they said Era Cues on GL? I'd wager in the 20's. I would also like to cite my favorite quote of the evening. "Haunted like a mo fo"

I thought that was a bit strange myself. I mean who am I to judge playing rockabilly in a historic location. That alone seems cool enough to me. But during an investigation. That seems odd, so much audio contamination of evidence. They also acted like a military unit whenever anything happened. The girl stated she felt like she was touched and the fellows sprang into like SWAT team action to get to her. Very amusing all in all.

Outstanding observations by all, well done. A few to add to the pot are:

1. No prior research was done on the properties investigated. (What is the building sitting on? What's under it? Are there any faultlines? Are there any underground streams? Is the power overhead or underground and what is the path? Is there a bedrock of quartz, granite or other piezo effect mineral? etc…)

2. Why wasn't a camera placed on each side of the door in question before the investigation began?

3. Why do TV "investigators" all refuse to put the recorders on a surface and leave them alone during the recording process?

4. Why didn't they test the door in question to see if there is a faulty latch and/or if it is off balance before the investigation?

5. Where are the "facts" when they claimed "This place is in fact haunted"???

Sorry, this kind of useless BS that all these shows use gets under my skin.

My first post on here (long time lurker)!

Okay, so, I have to give some props to these guys before I kinda rip into them…

- They seem genuinely into what they are doing (unlike the current state of GH).

- They don't mess around when something happens. I think it shows how excited they get and that's a good thing. (Makes me wonder if GH knew this was happening and thus the reason we saw Jay run over to Kris when she saw the shadow in the Meatloaf episode… Maybe these shows were taped around the same time and some production details or a promo got leaked to Pilgrim. Oh, wait, I need to adjust my tinfoil hat, brb.)

- They have more tech… They put stuff (with the exception of cameras, which I'll get to) everywhere. I don't think I've seen that many EMF detectors on any show. But that's also a minus… Which I'll get to.

- EVPs and VP were interesting (that's as far as I'll go with that).

- Bringing in other explanations and an expert on parallel universes is interesting, even though it really didn't DO anything or PROVE anything. Theories are good though… Just gotta prove 'em. Era cues (as much as the phrase irritated me) is another good theory and they are trying to make it work. Kudos for trying, even if they already have decided ghosts exist.

- They stayed at a location longer than one night and did a little investigating during the day.

- No night vision!

Those things made that show far more enjoyable to me than GH, GA, and PS.

Now I'll rip into them:

- EMF changes do not equal paranormal activity. You simply can't prove that to me. You can say it's weird, you can say it's interesting, but how do we know that isn't a natural occurance in any particular place? I think it's time to toss this technology and stick to audio/visual/personal experiances. They should not say that they can track ghosts this way – this is them saying that ghosts do, in fact, exist (which is not a fact).

- The live band didn't bother me. In fact, if it were me, I think I would have had the place full of people, had a show, and then took everyone out and THEN begin investigating. That way you still have the 'energy' of people and music as being fresh and recent. Having them playing as it went along… Well, loud music could vibrate a door, now couldn't it?

- Temperature changes… I'm not sold on this. I can be in Wal-Mart and suddenly feel cold. That doesn't mean Sam Walton is saying hello.

- Not enough cameras! Not enough audio! If I were doing this (on the premise that I don't believe ghosts exist – which I have no personal experience to say they do – so I need it to be proven!) I would have cameras and audio running in every room, facing every direction, for a succession of nights/days (three at minimum). I can understand infared cameras are expensive – but who needs to shoot in the dark, right? Two types of voice recorders (analog and digital) in every room. You could do this over a longer period just doing it room by room, you know? Webcams even… Doesn't have to be fancy recorders. And get one of those flash cameras that take a picture every 5 seconds or whatever. Spend money on THAT instead of touch screens and EMF fences.

- Helmet cams. We all know this to be true.

What Discovery should have done was a Survivorman type of ghost hunting show. One guy, his own gear, self documentation (no crew, no outside interferances). Give him a helmet cam, a harness cam, cams set up in the areas he'll be in and audio too. Give him 3-4 full days. But I suppose the big problem with that is that nothing will happen. Prove me wrong. ;)

Nosfer said:

I'm going to have to disagree with tossing this. Until we know for a fact that they are useless, why not keep using them? Prove they are useful or prove they are not, but don't just throw them out because you think they aren't useful, that's no more justifiable than including them because you think that they ARE useful. Use them to collect extra data, if the data do not substantiate anything, then you can throw them out, but better to collect and then throw out useless data than to wish you had data that MIGHT possibly be useful later but which you didn't collect.

Okay, but I could also hypothesize that angels manipulate the electromagnetic spectrum in the same fashion. Therefore, I can track angels with an EMF detector. Or, more extreme, I can say that sonar can locate underwater spirits… Any anomoly must be/could be a ghost. I don't know this for a fact, but we might as well use it because I think it works.

If we don't know for a fact something works, why keep using it? That's like taking an herbal supplement because it says it will improve your memory… FDA doesn't support that claim, but, y'know…Might as well, it can't hurt!

I get ya… I guess I'm just more of a 'let me see it' type, rather than a 'let me measure it' type.

I just wonder at one point will EMF go the way of 'orbs' as 'proof.'