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2:15 pm March 25, 2009
| Bear
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This is Bear – Yes the same one wanting to Join Taps.
I thought maybe I could take another journey.
I would like to know what the skeptical viewer is all about.
Is it for those who don't beleive in ghosts – bigfoot – or Nessie ?
I am sincerely curious about your group, I may even agree with
a lot of you.
Thank you all for the responses i received. Thank you for your advice.
The Old Swedish Bear
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2:37 pm March 25, 2009
| Nosfer
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It is probably different things to different people (or at least variations of different things) Unlike what it is commonly thought, to be a skeptic does NOT mean to NOT believe. The word comes from skeptesthai meaning to examine or consider rather than to just blindly accept something. Things need to be examined or considered on a case by case basis, just because one event may turn out to be paranormal does not mean that every other event brought forward will be also.
I believe there is more than what is commonly accepted as mainstream. I am not a non-believer, but by the same token, I need a bit more proof than what is generally shown, especially on TV(!)
Basically this forum is made of people who can and do think for themselves and will consider that there may be other explanations for what is passed off. TAPS initially claimed to be skeptical, to actually look at what they were examining, to try to find rational explanations. Unfortunately, it appears that the Great $ has altered that purpose somewhat lately.
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5:32 pm March 25, 2009
| Wallydraigle
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Speaking only for myself, I don't believe in ghosts, bigfoot, or nessie, because I've never seen any evidence which would compel me to. I just can't be intellectually honest with myself and believe in any of those things at the same time.
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8:55 pm March 25, 2009
| Hannah
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Hello Bear!
Thanks for coming and checking the forum out.
I wouldn't say I don't believe in the paranormal, but I need more evidence. I enjoy exploring other possibilities and exchange of different ideas in a respectful manner. We don't all agree on everything and that is fine. The Taps forum, unfortunately, does not let people to that.
Look around, share your opinions, ask questions, etc. I found everyone here to be open-minded and some have a very wonderful sense of humor.
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10:42 pm March 25, 2009
| Stephen
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Bear, welcome back! Hope your journey's treating you well.
I boil it down to the following (which veterans here have heard me say before):
On the X-files, they wanted to believe.
I want to know.
For me, Skeptical Viewer is about examining, when possible, the evidence presented by paranormal shows like Ghost Hunters. Are their experimental practices sound? Can we trust what they show us? Are there disturbing patterns?
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9:33 am March 26, 2009
| Learjet
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Bear said:
I would like to know what the skeptical viewer is all about.
Basically, we are here because we don't trust them. There's an old thread at the top right of the page that outlines at least 4 reasons, many more have been added since recent episodes. http://www.skepticalviewer.com/why-all-the-distrust/
Many fans that were once loyal have joined since the collar incident from the Halloween episode.
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12:44 pm March 26, 2009
| Bear
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Nosfer said:
It is probably different things to different people (or at least variations of different things) Unlike what it is commonly thought, to be a skeptic does NOT mean to NOT believe. The word comes from skeptesthai meaning to examine or consider rather than to just blindly accept something. Things need to be examined or considered on a case by case basis, just because one event may turn out to be paranormal does not mean that every other event brought forward will be also.
I believe there is more than what is commonly accepted as mainstream. I am not a non-believer, but by the same token, I need a bit more proof than what is generally shown, especially on TV(!)
Basically this forum is made of people who can and do think for themselves and will consider that there may be other explanations for what is passed off. TAPS initially claimed to be skeptical, to actually look at what they were examining, to try to find rational explanations. Unfortunately, it appears that the Great $ has altered that purpose somewhat lately.
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1:05 pm March 26, 2009
| Bobarino
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My 2¢
I beleive that paranormal things are possible, but I don't beleive most of what is told.
Ghosts? Maybe but I just don't think so. If there are, show me one single peice of good evidence. There is no smoking gun pohoto or video. A lot of evidence that can be explained by non-ghostly reasons. Does that mean they don't exsit? I am not saying that either, just show me good evidence/proof!
UFO's (Aliens)? I think it is entirely possible. But I don't belive all the stoies of abductions. Also, most photo's and videos have been debunked in one form or other. I personally had a UFO incident that I posted a while back but I myself am not even convinced there wasn't a natural, earthly explantion to it. There are just to many stories and too many possiblilities out there. Again, show mye the proof!
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1:53 pm March 26, 2009
| Bear
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Nosfer said:
It is probably different things to different people (or at least variations of different things) Unlike what it is commonly thought, to be a skeptic does NOT mean to NOT believe. The word comes from skeptesthai meaning to examine or consider rather than to just blindly accept something. Things need to be examined or considered on a case by case basis, just because one event may turn out to be paranormal does not mean that every other event brought forward will be also.
I believe there is more than what is commonly accepted as mainstream. I am not a non-believer, but by the same token, I need a bit more proof than what is generally shown, especially on TV(!)
Basically this forum is made of people who can and do think for themselves and will consider that there may be other explanations for what is passed off. TAPS initially claimed to be skeptical, to actually look at what they were examining, to try to find rational explanations. Unfortunately, it appears that the Great $ has altered that purpose somewhat lately.
Nosfer my friend – You are one of the main reasons I came back; your kindness towards an old fool
who was lost on the internet. I can be skeptical about certain things. On the other hand, with all honesty I can be very naieve and maybe a little too trusting.
I want to believe in people and in turn I have been disillusioned many times in the past.
I really like the word skeptesthai. I like to examine and consider things B4 I believe, however I think I have a bit of the Indiana Jones mindset, and am a firm believer in the words " dare to dream "
With that being said – I do believe in ghosts because I myself experienced them.
I believe in bigfoot because I have been studying him ever since the 1968 article in Argosy came out.
Don't know about UFO's or Nessie but am open minded enough to know that there are many things
we don't know in this world. Doesn't mean they don't exist – Thus comes (consider) from examine
and consider.
Thank you for listening, Bear
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