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1:51 pm
October 27, 2009
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timmyj3
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It seems that a place that has good activity would be ideal to have a long term (1-2 week) investigation. Has this ever been discussed? It seems silly trying to catch a ghost in a 4-6 hour time frame where the property owners report activity here and there. The numbers dont make sense if you know what I mean.
Thanks, Tim
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7:42 pm
October 27, 2009
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rjlaman
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I wondered with time lapse cameras over time if there would be more evidence?
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7:57 pm
October 27, 2009
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Stephen
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We've discussed it a few times, mostly regarding specific episodes. Certainly from a scientific perspective it would be better to put cameras in place and do daily analysis for a week, a month, a year– the longer the better. Of course, in a home there would be privacy issues, but I couldn't see a problem with a public location. Absolutely ideal would be Race Rock Lighthouse– rig up some solar-charged cameras and a wireless link to the shore, leave some chairs for local entities to play with, and do a daily review.
I can't say why none of these groups, or shows, are interested in such a thing. I would suspect that it has something to do with the bottom line– people are looking for entertainment and novelty in a TV show, not scientific research.
Of course, where Race Rock is concerned, I have some other ideas as well as to why certain people wouldn't want a long-term study.
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12:23 am
October 28, 2009
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Learjet
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It's not the style of GH to do long term research. It's more hit and run! There's also no profit to be made long term, unless some bored millionaire wants to self fund their own research. I can't see too many companies sponsoring long term ghost research. Although Rotorooter seem to have a mutual relationship with GH in advertising.
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1:04 am
October 28, 2009
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gman26
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This seems so obviouse but you have to remember that time is money. The only way your gonna see a long term investigation is if they can do it for free, or if you do it your self.
I would love to see an investigation last at least a week as it would give a clearer picture on what days occuraces take place and at what times. As well as the oppotunity for thorough investigation.
When you think about the ammount of experiences people have these few hours you once again have to question there Authenticity. If the family or owner of the property were having that many experiences on a nightly basis. I doubt they would stay there for long.
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6:05 am
October 28, 2009
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timmyj3
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I agree that GH is purely a money making tv entertainment operation. Are there any true investigators out there? I think a good long term investigation would be a decent way to guage the true activity of a potential haunt. Thanks, Tim
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8:51 am
October 28, 2009
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Willard with it's webcam(s?) is a good example of long-term. Now if they could just beef up some of the equipment they use…
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9:44 am
October 28, 2009
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HollyDolly
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Ordsall Hall in England I think still has a webcam. The Oklahoma City Ghost Club has a webcam on a haunted hospital,I think that's the groups name.
Also Kansas Paranormal Reseach which my friend Jerry Talbert runs, has investigated the Sally house for a long time. There probably are paranormal groups who have a location they investigate a lot, but these folks don't have a tv show or big bucks.
Yeah if something is happening every night, I think most people would move out. Sometimes people
have things happen for awhile, then they may go for several days or weeks with nothing.That's one of the reasons sometimes investigators want clients to write things down, because the paranormal activity is so irregular.
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9:56 am
October 28, 2009
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There probably are paranormal groups who have a location they investigate a lot
Very true, we should not let ourselves believe that what we see on the handful of TV shows is representative of the field as a whole. Many have sprung up as a result of these shows and probably use the same hack techniques, but there ARE people who are serious.
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10:59 am
October 28, 2009
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Absolutely true Nosfer. I do feel sorry for those that are really serious. One of the biggest problems I have is with those that slap on the TAPS family membership to their website. Don't find them particularly serious but merely jumping on the bandwagon of the latest craze. It's especially tellling when they have Myspace pages and their "friends" are TAPS members as well like John Zaffis and then there is Chip C. Oh boy! There's some seriousness. 
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11:10 am
October 28, 2009
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Nosfer
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alicat said:
Absolutely true Nosfer. I do feel sorry for those that are really serious. One of the biggest problems I have is with those that slap on the TAPS family membership to their website. Don't find them particularly serious but merely jumping on the bandwagon of the latest craze. It's especially tellling when they have Myspace pages and their "friends" are TAPS members as well like John Zaffis and then there is Chip C. Oh boy! There's some seriousness.
"Seriously" lol Would be really interesting to plot the number of groups out there…see how many there were in each of the years from say 1990 to 2009 and see if there was a jump anywhere along the line.
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3:10 pm
October 28, 2009
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The Doctor
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I think the increase in "hunters" even if they are incompetant , could wind up with an increase in our knowledge of the paranormal.
How so you ask ?
Residual hauntings as explained to us need no expertise to find, simply boots on the ground. Since residual Casper simply goes about doing whatever it is he does and takes no notice of us, the clowns cannot do anything to mess things up.
We should start getting similar reports from different groups as they go through the hot locations again and again. This could effectively become a long term investigation. Maybe TAPS could even sponsor the formation of a complete database of the sightings of it's "families" groups ?
Conversely, if we do not start getting information that would allow us to form an idea of the pattern of the residual Caspers, we should begin to question the entire concept of the residual.
They may well wind up being tossed on the trash heap with the orbs
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5:00 pm
October 28, 2009
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Angelayo1970
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The Doctor said:
We should start getting similar reports from different groups as they go through the hot locations again and again. This could effectively become a long term investigation. Maybe TAPS could even sponsor the formation of a complete database of the sightings of it's "families" groups ?
I like your thinking on this Doc, but unfortunately with TAPS hesitance to post any kind of evidence for review or even their qualifications as investigators for that matter, I'm doubtful they would compile anything for public consumption that would give away any of their "hot" locations. Sadly, I've heard that they are rather Mob-like with "the family" as it is, threatening other paranormal investigation groups with smear campaigns that opt out of becoming part of the TAPS family. Therefore, I think they'd be hard pressed to give away any sort of info that other "non-family" groups could use to their investigative advantage. I mean, heaven forbid a non-family group investigate one of their hot locations and come up with really and truly compelling evidence of the paranormal! This is where I have my biggest beef with the TAPS mentality; they say they want to help advance the paranormal research field, but they want to make sure they are the only ones who get the credit for doing so.
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11:43 am
October 29, 2009
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The Doctor
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Angelayo1970 said:
I think they'd be hard pressed to give away any sort of info that other "non-family" groups could use to their investigative advantage. I mean, heaven forbid a non-family group investigate one of their hot locations and come up with really and truly compelling evidence of the paranormal!
You're correct obviously … the family groups only function appears to be to feed information UP the ladder to boost those the top.
I suppose the feeders are under the impression that lightning might hit and they would be selected to join the elite group. ( I wonder if they realize that the last two additions, Amy & Britt, rather then having any particular expertice at ghost hunting, worked as producers for their defunct radio program and personal apperances ? )
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12:09 pm
October 29, 2009
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The Doctor
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Gotta run but found this link to ghost cams http://www.ghost-mysteries.com/webcams.php
Haven't checked them yet, so your mileage may vary 
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3:45 pm
October 31, 2009
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Ike_Spink
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Learjet's right, it's not profitable. Ghost hunters does things for ratings, and there's a lot of evidence that points to them botching evidence.
I'd like to see a longterm investigation, but I know it wouldn't be from ghost hunters, and probably not anything being aired on TV.
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3:49 pm
October 31, 2009
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Nosfer
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Ike_Spink said:
I'd like to see a longterm investigation, but I know it wouldn't be from ghost hunters, and probably not anything being aired on TV.
I don't know…they've got the perfect setup for it lol I wonder why they haven't set up a bunch of webcams for everyone to view at the Spalding and see if they can't add to the sightings? You just know there are a bunch of people out there who would add things to a comments site like "I saw a purple mist float across the screen"
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4:03 pm
October 31, 2009
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sheep_project
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I did a little ditty on our blog today about how my brother and I approach our investigations. Basically, for private homes, we ask for 24 hours of investigation, as allowed by the homeowner. Usually 3-4 hours a day over the course of a week or three (day or night). It takes a lot of trust and respect to do this, and we try to work with the homeowners to make it convienent for them. Other places, like parks, public places, larger properties… We will often go back again and again and again. Got nothing better to do? We'll hit Butcher Hill or the old indian fort for a couple hours, for example.
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