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6:03 pm August 26, 2010
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I may be wrong, but aren't there supposed to be a bunch of nasty type creatures roaming around the paranormal with the intention of screwing around with people ?
Here we are going onto year 7 with 2 spinoff shows and the list of demonic or at least potentially harmfull events ( as I recall ) is
Some minor scratches on Jason
a bug bite on Joe Chin
Barry slaming a castle door and running like a scared school girl
a couple of cameras that fell over
Steve and Tango fantasizing about some flaming head appearing
a flying hanger
Feel free to add to the list, but THAT'S IT ?
… not a single visit to a home where they needed to tell the client – " Get out now, and call a priest " ?
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6:22 pm August 26, 2010
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I think Grant got swiped once, too. Oh, and Frank back at the Armory, that had to be demonic, too, because as everyone knows, a ghost can only exert 5 pounds of force. Or is that 10? Wait, where did my manual go, I'll look it up…
They haven't called any priests that I can recall, but didn't they have Carl or his other brother Carl do an exorcism or at least a blessing?
Edited: Keith, that's the other guy.
Edited Again: Wait a minute, though. Maybe there are no ghosts, but all entities are demons? Demons originally were neutral and the evil connotation only came later.
Seriously, though, I think we need to separate message from messenger. Walking around mis-using equipment is hardly a basis for a real investigation. I certainly wouldn't make a decision on anything paranormal one way or the other based solely upon what I've seen from this show and it's spin offs lol
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7:22 pm August 26, 2010
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Nosfer said:
I think Grant got swiped once, too. Oh, and Frank back at the Armory, that had to be demonic, too, because as everyone knows, a ghost can only exert 5 pounds of force. Or is that 10?
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I certainly wouldn't make a decision on anything paranormal one way or the other based solely upon what I've seen from this show and it's spin offs lol
How could I forget poor Frank ? Too bad our investigators only had what ? fourteen years experience at the time ? … or they might have whipped out their EMF meters and thermometers and done some EVP work on the spot. Didn't they point the thermal at Frank instead of around the area to try and catch the culprit ?
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The interest in the paranormal and investigating as a hobby has certainly picked up because of these shows, so just where are the results ?
With more feet on the street and all the new and improved equipment ( choke ) we should be seeing some verifiable results – these demons should have many more targets.
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11:01 pm August 26, 2010
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The Doctor said: "I may be wrong, but aren't there supposed to be a bunch of nasty type creatures roaming around the paranormal with the intention of screwing around with people ?"
Hmmm…that is a very good observation.
I believe the stock TAPS answer would be that they do, they just don't show them. Somewhere in a thread here at SV, it was mentioned that J&G went to a church and had some "wild" experiences but couldn't film them because the church wouldn't give consent. I believe that they would most likely hide behind an issue of legality or confidentiality. (EDIT- I believe this story came from one of their books…no idea which one.)
A "true fan" would probably bring up the point that the TAPS team doesn't seem to be going to residential dwellings anymore. And everyone knows that demons don't hang out in museums or forts or in general…places that have gift shops. (I believe it was Steve who once said about the Lizzie Borden B&B: "How haunted can a place be when it has a gift shop?" How things have changed, no?)
A "true fan with a background in conspiracy theory" would claim that they do, but in a deal with the Church, they must keep things under wraps in order to not spread the word of the Devil…and when the Rapture comes, you'll have your answers Mr Sinner…
Also…sorry, but I can't remember which particular episode…but wasn't there a "ghost pretending to be a demon pretending to be a ghost" type of thing that apparently moved a refrigerator around? I can't remember the exact specifics but I know it was something crazy like that. It just stood out to me because it was so funny…
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12:50 am August 27, 2010
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The ghost pretending to be a demon was in the episode where they were talking to the electric junction box for the heating unit with the K-II. The answers came before they finished the questions lol.
I only remember the episode because of the K-II madness and the comic strip I made.
http://img23.imageshack.us/i/k21r.jpg/
http://img23.imageshack.us/i/k22w.jpg/
http://img36.imageshack.us/i/demonhouse.jpg/
Don't forget that beaker, er I mean Dustin was tripped by a demon thingy something or other on GHI. Cos people just don't trip over their feet at night, walking around in the dark… not being able to see where they are going….
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1:06 am August 27, 2010
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@Learjet – Ahhh, that's it. Thank you.
And speaking of Beaker…er…Dustin, are you talking about the one where he was decked in the attic of that home in Scotland? Wasn't that a GH episode? Maybe even the one where they met Barry?
Oh wait…isn't that the same one where Brian and Barry were all excited and scared by some evil spirit/evil demon/evil something in a room when Barry went all crazy "Close the door! Close the door!" And it turned out to be Brian's shadow? 
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6:14 am August 27, 2010
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One must remember that before GH,(back when Jay had just gotten his massage and Grant had the experience that he dare not speak it's name), they were involved with all kinds of demon wrasslin'.
It was in their first book, so you know it's gotta' be true.
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7:25 am August 27, 2010
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Didn't the ghost of Robin Hood shoot Barry in the arse with a Cupid arrow?
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7:52 am August 27, 2010
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Revenant said:
@Learjet – Ahhh, that's it. Thank you.
And speaking of Beaker…er…Dustin, are you talking about the one where he was decked in the attic of that home in Scotland? Wasn't that a GH episode? Maybe even the one where they met Barry?
Leap Castle in Eire, I believe.
The Doctor said:
The interest in the paranormal and investigating as a hobby has certainly picked up because of these shows, so just where are the results ?
The interest has picked up, definitely, but if the methods of investigation are copied and the equipment just as misused, then we're at a condition which Learjet summed up as 0 minus 0 still equals 0 :)
Blinddog said:
One must remember that before GH,(back when Jay had just gotten his massage and Grant had the experience that he dare not speak it's name), they were involved with all kinds of demon wrasslin'.
You'd think that demons and mayhem and fury would make for better TV than "did you hear that?" "Dude I saw something duck out down there" No? You'd also then think the producers would be all over that type of programming rather than the mundane traipsing around in the dark. No?
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8:01 am August 27, 2010
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The thing with Dustin getting knocked down and Barry telling Brian to close the door happend at Leap Castle in Ireland.This is in regards to the elemental spirit which Margaret Darby summoned by accident when dabbling in the ocult. She described it as about the size of a sheep with a foul odor about it and a skull like face. It was most likely formed out of the misery and horor of those who were victims of the place.
All cultures have tales of both good and evil spirits that both help and harm mankind. Some of these have been around for centuries.
I do believe there is truth in this, as even the bible mentions such things.Jesus in one example encounters a man with demons in him.He excorcises the demons,who then flee into a group of pigs, who run off a cliff.
In any case,they are mentioned in the bible,whether one believes in it or God or not.
The average person doesn't come into contact with elemental spirits or demons on a daly basis. It doesn't happen everyday, and most of us will never happen to run into one in our lifetime.
Carl and Keith used to belong to TAPS and were in the first season or two of GH.They had some sort of falling out with Jason and Grant, most likely in regards to the show, but I understand if they need some sort of help in regards to demons or whatever, they will help out.
In one episode, forgot which one it was, either Keith or Carl went and did a blessing of a lady's home.
Sometimes it makes the client feel better and can help bring some peace to their home.
There was posted on the TAPS 18 site about the episode that never aired.It invovled an older woman named Marie and things that were happening in her home.He son was invovled.There was a room which he never would let anyone into in the house,which might have been the source of the trouble.I don't know if the post is still there.Keith and Carl Johnson have their own investigative group,and might have something about it on their website. This woman supposedly at times seemed to be possessed,which maybe why the episode wasn't aired.One to spare the family any embarrassment, and two, because everyone would say it was fake.This was when the show was just getting started.
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