I was wondering what others here think of something that has been bothering me a lot lately, esp. as this season has unfolded.

Now, I'm no fan of Most Haunted. I think it is fake, a show made just for entertainment (they have admitted as much) and IMO their use of both mediums and table tipping, ouija boards etc. is laughable. I watch it mainly because I love to see the locations they go to, being an Anglophile myself.

That said, I remember when Jason and Grant ripped into Yvette Fielding on their radio show. They basically made fun of MH's methods mentioned above; at least, they certainly insinuated as much. To tell the truth, after re-listening to the show, I began to feel that they were impolite at the least and wicked at the most.

TAPS claims that they believe there are many different methods employed in ghost investigation. I feel very uncomfortable with the fact that they blasted Yvette, yet lately we have been seeing them almost doing the exact same things, just using different means.

It all started for me when Chris Fleming appeared on the now infamous Manson episode. IMO Fleming is not only a fake but people like him bring a lot of discredit on a field which already has a tremendous problem getting taken seriously by a large portion of the population, scientific or otherwise. How can his preposterous "channelings" and hilarious impersonations of Sammy Davis Jr. and Joan Crawford be taken at all seriously? What is the difference here between him and Derek Acorah, the master of the possession con?

The first appearance of the K2 meter–something Jason said he wasn't too happy with but now we see it being used a lot on every episode. What, pray tell, is the difference between this and, say, a ouija board? Or yelling out "tap once for yes, two for no"? And MH is famous for objects like rocks, coins etc. being thrown at them. Now we have pieces of glass falling or being thrown in J & G's direction.

I guess what I am trying to say is that I am finding the gap between MH and GH being narrowed. Since TAPS claims to be open to all sorts of people and their tools, why blast MH so much? Especially when we see a TAPS member going around with, of all things, dowsing rods?

When GH first started, I was excited and thought that at last, we will see an attempt at scientific gathering of evidence. But, in this last season especially, I've noticed a gravitation towards some of MH's methods that they have criticized so much.

Just some thoughts. I still watch the show, but their credibility has really plummeted in my eyes. And ever since Fleming made his appearance, my husband has been refusing to watch them, although now he occasionally does in order to read the synopses and debates here.

Anyone else bothered by TAPS seeming acceptance and usage of some of Most Haunted's standard techniques? Or is it just my imagination?

I find MH absolutely unwatchable. My kids and I struggled through an episode while passing time in a hotel room a year or two ago and actually got a good laugh out of it. During one lull in the investigative action, one of the "mediums" on the show started shouting "CONFRONTATION" over and over. It was our family catch phrase for a couple of months.

Unfortunately GH is heading in that direction for me as well. I was originally drawn to this show because they at least tried to be thorough and scientific. In a recent episode, they captured a heat signature on their FLIR camera that appeared to be human. As usual it was at the end of a long hall. I was frustrated by the lack of a follow-up on this. While they claimed that no one was in the area at the time, they did not try to recreate the heat image to see if it could be made by a human. Didn't measure or report the heat of the object, etc…

I work in scientific research and I realize that GH is a long, long way from real science. It's a shame that real science doesn't make for compelling TV.

CONFRONTATION! CONFRONTATION!

MH can be hilarious. My wife and I watch it occasionally, just for a laugh. I love it when they start screaming and running. Most of the time, though, MH is pretty painful to watch. Sad to day, TAPS is trending that way, too.

TAPS doesn't really have much business criticizing other shows. They're not exactly the "anti-MH," especially GHI. It's all entertainment. And, despite their pretensions, the TAPS crew aren't scientists — they're laymen.

It would be interesting to see a ghost-hunting team composed entirely of scientists from a variety of disciplines. Problem is, most scientists don't take the paranormal seriously, because they know too much about … science, I guess.

When I first heard the GH-MH smackdown "interview", I was kind of at war with myself. On one hand, I pretty much agreed with every accusation the GHs made, and it was fun (in a nasty way) to watch them attack Yvette, who didn't put up much of a defense. OK, I'll admit it– it was really fun. I am a bad person.

On reflection, of course, it's pretty cynical of them to make that attack. That doesn't invalidate their criticisms of MH, but it does mean that their protests when they're criticized ring particularly hollow.

If the Ghost Hunters didn't claim to be scientific, then frankly I wouldn't devote much time to analyzing their episodes. I think it's been rewarding, though. By figuring out how they've fallen short of science, I think I've learned a bit more about what science is.