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Splain to me the k2 meter???

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12:34 pm
May 26, 2009


timmyj3

Investigator in Training

posts 11

Hi all,

 Hope everyone is doing well today. I watched two more episodes over the weekend and my new favorite laugh reflex is this k2 meter. What the heck is it? I had a Lost In Sapce gun in the late 60's that looked a lot like it!! But seriously what the heck does this thing prove? I saw the Manson murder episode and have yet to quit chuckling since Saturday (I am not kidding, i laugh like a school girl just thinking about it). I love when Grant get all serious about this K2 meter. Oh my God its real now, Grant has the K2 meter talking to someone.

 What do EMF's really prove? What they prove to me is there is inconsitent energy flowing through every structure on earth. Did they ever think it ConEd talking to them instaed of Sharon tate? Just wondering.

 If I am way off base on the K2 please clue me in.

 Thanks, Tim

1:07 pm
May 26, 2009


alicat

Lead Investigator

posts 1215

timmyj3,

If you enjoy the K-2, you will love the USS Hornet episode tomorrow night at 7:00 pm.  If you can't wait, check out Logisti's review of the episode.  Enjoy!

2:10 pm
May 26, 2009


Wallydraigle

Ohio

Investigator

posts 114

The K2 is a really cheaply made EMF meter which you need to jam a penny into to use for ghost detection.  I think that covers the high points.

2:56 pm
May 26, 2009


Revenant

Hopelessly Locked In A "Fear Cage"

Lead Investigator

posts 1393

"Skepticism is not a position, it's a process." -Dr Michael Shermer

5:08 pm
May 26, 2009


Learjet

Australia

Lead Investigator

posts 1122

There's a lot of info around concerning the K2, but just to be sure they didn't miss anythng I'm getting one to play with. So if you can hang on a few days until mine arrives I'll give a review of it and what it is really capable of doing.

OD'd on EMF

5:21 pm
May 26, 2009


Wallydraigle

Ohio

Investigator

posts 114

I'd love to have one, so I could mock it more effectively, but I have issues with giving anyone involved with it my money.

9:15 pm
May 26, 2009


Learjet

Australia

Lead Investigator

posts 1122

I only bought it to mock. Tongue out

Yay, the post truck turned up just a little while ago and lookie what it delivered. A brand new shiny K2.

I hate the stock switch already, so put a mini toggle in it. I can still use the original switch if I want to, and have come to believe just fooling around with it that the Manson murder episode responses just look like someone is switching it on/off with that horrid switch. In fact I'd bet the K2 on it. Tongue out

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2420/k2b.jpg

This is interesting… mine is revision 3. I guess that means there was a revision 1 and 2. I wonder if the 3 detects more ghosts? Undecided

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5027/k2af.jpg

Someone is on to a good money making business with this thing. There's only a few dollars worth of parts in it. The parts are all generic common garden variety – PN100, PN200 small signal transistors throughout with a few resistors, diodes, LEDs and what looks like an opamp IC.

My VHF walkie sets if off quite a distance away and HF SSB sends it blinking like crazy, something my GaussMaster and ElectroSensor EMF meters don't do. So the K2 can definitely pick up stray two way transmissions quite easily.

I'll have a more in depth look a bit later. Time for lunch.

OD'd on EMF

12:25 am
May 27, 2009


Learjet

Australia

Lead Investigator

posts 1122

I now know why ghost hunters hunt in the dark – the LEDs are easier to see that way. Tongue out

Ran a few tests with a signal generator from 18 – 22,000 Hertz. It's not the most sensitive EMF meter around. Both the ElectroSensor and Gauss Master will detect AC at a greater distance than this K2.

Frequency response test.

Hertz – Leds

18hertz 4
30    4
50    5
100    5
200    5
300    5
500    4
1000    4
2000    3
3000    3
4000    2.5
5000    2
6000    1.5
7000    na

Peak sensitivity is in the 50 – 300 Hertz range. At the high end it's pretty deaf after 7000 Hertz while the Gauss Master keeps on going past 22,000. The low end was a surprise, with good sensitivity down to 18 Hertz and probably lower. In fact it seems quite sensitive right down to DC. Below 50 Hertz the LEDs can be seen flickering in sync with the frequency. This could be a useful clue as to the actual frequency it's picking up.

It was quite sensitive to moving DC fields with a set of magnets in motion.

As mentioned it also picks up key clicks and transmissions from HF through to UHF. Doing a ghost hunt next to CB, Ham or two way radios would set it off. As mentioned elsewhere on the forum, carrying a close capture scanner with the K2 would help to identify the source of any nearby transmissions.

While I've settled a few of my own questions regarding the K2, there's a few things that still bother me. My spectrum analyser can detect minor fluctuations in the EM field, but the K2 is not sensitive enough to do so. Why would it light up in open fields as some people claim? Were revisions 1 and 2 subject to self oscillation or some other major defect?

It seems I've answered some questions and raised others. The mystery of the K2 remains!

OD'd on EMF

8:07 am
May 27, 2009


Wallydraigle

Ohio

Investigator

posts 114

Did you bless it with holy water right away?

7:34 pm
May 27, 2009


Learjet

Australia

Lead Investigator

posts 1122

Nope. All I have is sarsperella. Will that do?

OD'd on EMF

8:43 pm
May 27, 2009


Wallydraigle

Ohio

Investigator

posts 114

I suspect it would be equally as effective.

6:40 pm
May 28, 2009


MissMissy

LA County, CA

Investigator

posts 51

Just saw the USS Hornet episode last night with the K2. My husband almost fell off the bed laughing and i needed some Tylenol afterward! Yell

If the truth is out there than why haven't I found it yet?

8:58 am
September 22, 2009


saber

Investigator in Training

posts 7

"It was quite sensitive to moving DC fields with a set of magnets in motion".

Don't you think that a moving magnet creates a simulated ac field. These things don't react to dc. The flux movement will create a high and low simulation.  Does any one here know how a generator or alternatorcreates ac or dc?  If an emf meter doesn't react a stationary force it doesn't react to dc.

Lay the meter against a simple plastic flash light  and see if it reacts, that would be a simple test if it reacts to dc. Oh turn on the light first to create a circuit.

10:26 am
September 22, 2009


Learjet

Australia

Lead Investigator

posts 1122

Ah ha, yes you picked the mistakes in my wording. Indeed, the K2 is not sensitive right down to DC. It takes a few Hertz before it registers. A poor explanation on my part. Like saying that some radios are sensitive from DC to daylight.

You can sit the K2 down right next to a magnet and as long as there is no motion there is no reading.

OD'd on EMF

11:48 am
September 22, 2009


TasCat

TasCat

Investigator

posts 74

Ah, alicat said Kris' visit was after the investigation by three weeks, and that Kris did mention Hopkinton, NH, but didn't the investigation only really talk about a moving rug?  I know that the MacNeil's experienced much more according to Leigh's postings, but I just remember the visual apparitions mentioned, the clock and the rug (what GH listed that is), I don't know, since the timeline is so off by alicat's findings, (who is on top of everything!!), (meant in a good way), that still the USGS visit was a chance opportunity.

 It's actually a meter developed near the base of the mountain K2, by Sherpa mystics, originally designed to measure the pheramone levels of the female Yeti, when if was found out that they accidently overproduced the device, it was repackaged and sold to gullible paranormal investigators, who falsly believed that it measured electro-magnetic fields, not denied by the Sherpa Mystics as sales were up 350%, which could perhaps indicate the presence of ghosts and astral beings. But now the Sherpa Mystics are wondering why there are so many female Yeti's living in the basements of Americans. (Version 3.0 was given the additional feature of measuring hormone levels of the male Yeti).  Secret Sherpa expeditions to American basements are in the works.

 I'm sorry, I couldn't resist a little humor today Innocent

"If the sheet doesn't fit, buy a new one!"

2:16 am
October 28, 2009


gman26

Investigator in Training

posts 11

Im with you on the whole K2 meter BS. Its nothing more than i gimmic if you ask me and could easily be manipulated by a remote device. Talking to ghosts indeed. Why dont they just get a psychic and then we can actualy listen to them say what is supposedly said. It would be more entertaining but then what self respecting psychic would associate themselves with the the TAPS stage show.

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