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Spalding Inn More Haunted Than The Myrtles Plantation?

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3:58 pm
May 22, 2009


Hannah

Texas

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May 22nd, 2009 | By Fiona Broome | Category: What's new

 "The Spalding Inn in Whitefield, New Hampshire is the kind of location that every ghost hunter dreams of.

The hotel is owned by ghost hunters Jason Hawes and Grant Wilson (famous for TAPS and the Ghost Hunters TV show) and their families.

In addition, parts of the hotel are delightfully haunted.

I’ve visited the Spalding Inn several times, and concluded that it’s similar to Louisiana’s Myrtles Plantation… but perhaps even more haunted."

http://hollowhill.com/spalding-inn/

Please note this was published on the web today.   Currently, I am a little stunned.  The Mrytles?  Wasn't most of that debunked, including a slave cabin, that wasn't a slave cabin?

4:14 pm
May 22, 2009


alicat

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Great link Hannah,

Interesting that The Myrtles was the scene of the infamous "Incredible Moving Lamp (cord).   I find that Ms. Broome (who calls herself an "alternative historian") may have an alternate reason for this review.  She's handled by the same management company as our buddies, Ideal Event Management.  Co-incidence or not?  LOL!!  Laughing Nothing like keeping it in the "family" business. Money mouth  Ya think?  And, for those of you who are not aware of it, HollowHill.com's founder and author is Ms. Broome.  Check her out.  My head is spinning as well.

4:25 pm
May 22, 2009


Hannah

Texas

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She also has an article out: Ghost Hunting For Fame and Fortune http://fionabroome.com/ghost-hunting-for-fame-and-fortune/

"There are three ways to become famous in this field.  Even with no prior experience in paranormal research, you can network your way to fame.  Go to events, meet the right celebrities, and talk your way onto a show.  Play that game well and you can be in front of a camera within weeks."

BUT. . . "Frankly, credibility is the most valuable commodity in this field."

I find it incredible that she included credibility. 

4:55 pm
May 22, 2009


alicat

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Hannah,

You know, they always say you should watch what you write.  Putting her giant ego aside, that was an eye-opener which shows she knows how to work the system and is obviously proud of it. Money mouth Money mouthMoney mouth

After reading that link (thank you), I agree it was incredible she included credibility and punctuated it with being "the most valuable commodity in this field".  Wonder if anyone we know in the field has ever read that comment?

5:39 pm
May 22, 2009


blinddog

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Uunnhhh,
http://hollowhill.com/spalding-inn/
I..I don't know where to….nevermind.
Fiona said "I detected intense male energy in Room 16, and later discovered that my uncle had stayed in that room 1978. So I might have been hypersensitive to his residual energy."
Those beans and franks they serve in the bar must be AWESOME.

They have fairies too?

Local gas station has material concerning the supposed abduction of Betty and Barney Hill in it's rest room.
UM, ok.

Fiona also said. "So when you stay at the Spalding Inn, don't just look for ghosts…look for spaceships too.

So, if you stay at the most haunted inn that could possibly ever exist, and you run into J & G. Will you see Bill and his shades there too?

Call George Clinton.
The Mothership has arrived.
flashlight…yeah,…yeah,…flashlight.

Double tap to the head. Don't become Undead.

5:59 pm
May 22, 2009


Hannah

Texas

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blinddog50 said:

Uunnhhh,
http://hollowhill.com/spalding-inn/
I..I don't know where to….nevermind.
Fiona said "I detected intense male energy in Room 16, and later discovered that my uncle had stayed in that room 1978. So I might have been hypersensitive to his residual energy."
Those beans and franks they serve in the bar must be AWESOME.

They have fairies too?

Local gas station has material concerning the supposed abduction of Betty and Barney Hill in it's rest room.
UM, ok.

Fiona also said. "So when you stay at the Spalding Inn, don't just look for ghosts…look for spaceships too.

So, if you stay at the most haunted inn that could possibly ever exist, and you run into J & G. Will you see Bill and his shades there too?

Call George Clinton.
The Mothership has arrived.
flashlight…yeah, yeah…flashlight.


Just when we thought things couldn't get worse.  Blinddog, maybe it was your cousin Stinky she sensed in Room 16. Laughing

6:29 pm
May 22, 2009


blinddog

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Hannah, could be.
However, after most times that Stinky leaves his calling card, you know, the CDC arrives and turns the location into another Yucca Mt.
Just to give an update on ol' cousin Stinky, he's wrapping up his voice overs on American GhostHunter.
Said something about it's hard to stay in character.
I said "What's hard, you're a dog".
He said, "I didn't understand the artist mentality". Whatever.
Also mentioned that Ryan thought that he was attacked the other day by that demon that follows him around.
But Stinky knew what it was.

Double tap to the head. Don't become Undead.

6:40 pm
May 22, 2009


Mary

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Wow.  Ghosts AND UFOs!   This Inn must be amazing.  They should throw in sightings of Bigfoot, and they'd have a 'hat-trick'.  Obviously, they are not charging nearly enough to stay there.  I wonder why the past owners couldn't make a go of it.

"Quando omni flunkus moritati" ("When all else fails, play dead") – Possum Lodge motto. Jason and Grant should adopt it as their own.

7:06 pm
May 22, 2009


blinddog

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Mary, amazing does not even begin to cover it.
I could never stay there.
I could handle the astounding hauntings there.
Could even take the flashing lights from the ufo's shining though the windows all night.
No, my biggest fear, that as an early riser I might accidentally, in the hallway, run into Jason in his tighty whiteys.
That'd pretty much do me in.

Double tap to the head. Don't become Undead.

7:10 pm
May 22, 2009


alicat

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@ Mary: "I wonder why the past owners couldn't make a go of it."  Well, Mary, I thought about that and given Ms. Broome's writings, perhaps the previous owners were not physic enough or was that sick enough, I just can't spell these days.  Sounds like this place should be on the National Register List. Undecided

9:08 pm
May 22, 2009


Hannah

Texas

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blinddog50 said:

Hannah, could be.
However, after most times that Stinky leaves his calling card, you know, the CDC arrives and turns the location into another Yucca Mt.
Just to give an update on ol' cousin Stinky, he's wrapping up his voice overs on American GhostHunter.
Said something about it's hard to stay in character.
I said "What's hard, you're a dog".
He said, "I didn't understand the artist mentality". Whatever.
Also mentioned that Ryan thought that he was attacked the other day by that demon that follows him around.
But Stinky knew what it was.


Poor Stinky, his career kinda nosedived after co-starring with Adam Sandler.  If he could just revive his Mr. Beefy character.

10:29 pm
May 22, 2009


Bobarino

Valencia, CA

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blinddog50 said:

Those beans and franks they serve in the bar must be AWESOME.


LMAO!   My nomination for the funniest post this year.

I've found that being AWESOME is a full time job…

10:56 pm
May 22, 2009


Hannah

Texas

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Mary said:

 I wonder why the past owners couldn't make a go of it.


The main economy in Coos County, NH is tourism and logging.  There are quite a few Inns and B & Bs in the area of the Spalding Inn that look wonderful.  Competition for the tourist dollars and special events would be my guess. 

11:01 pm
May 22, 2009


Revenant

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alicat said:

Great link Hannah,

Interesting that The Myrtles was the scene of the infamous "Incredible Moving Lamp (cord).   I find that Ms. Broome (who calls herself an "alternative historian") may have an alternate reason for this review.  She's handled by the same management company as our buddies, Ideal Event Management.  Co-incidence or not?  LOL!!  Laughing Nothing like keeping it in the "family" business. Money mouth  Ya think?  And, for those of you who are not aware of it, HollowHill.com's founder and author is Ms. Broome.  Check her out.  My head is spinning as well.


Agreed.  Great link Hannah.  Also, Alicat…let's talk about that "family business" for a second.  Here's a couple of quotes that struck me as odd:

"The rooms are very comfortable, and vintage decor adds to their charm.  Each room is “en suite” (has its own bathroom) and offers a view of the hotel, the surrounding mountains, or both."

"I’ve spent the night there and enjoyed the room.  Perhaps it was the clean, mountain air or the luxurious bed, but I slept very soundly and woke refreshed in the morning."

"In general, the Spalding Inn is a wonderful hotel whether you’re there for a good night’s sleep… or a “good scare."

Is it just me, or do all these quotes kind of sound like sale pitches to you?  Odd how they are interwoven in an article only speaking about the paranormal nature of the property.

Since the episode first aired, we've been hammering the point that there simply isn't any evidence to support that the property has been "haunted for years."  I give her credit.  She does not claim that it has been haunted for years.  Only that it's really, really, really, really haunted now.  A very subtle difference…

I am fascinated by her other article as well:

http://hollowhill.com/ghost-hunters-tv-show-fake/

She delves into the infamous Halloween special.  Um…yeah…please place a plastic cover over your monitor so when you spit out what your drinking while reading it, your drink won't get all over your screen.  (and for the love of God…don't show Oubliette that link!  She'll go ballistic!)

Oh, but I can't go without my favorite quote from the piece:

This is about the voice being heard: "Also, at Jason’s MySpace blog, he points out that the voice was so clear, he asked if someone had said anything.  (If anything irks me about Jason, it’s that he tends to be aggressively skeptical.  This show was no exception.)"

Aggressively skeptical?  This show was no exception?  Wow…simply amazing…

"Skepticism is not a position, it's a process." -Dr Michael Shermer

5:20 am
May 23, 2009


dr_peter_venkman

Rochester, NY

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blinddog50 said:

I could never stay there.


I had the same thought. But it isn't the alleged paranormal activity that I can't handle. It's the clientele. I think the winter would be the worst. Cooped up inside with all that snow and all those flakes.

Hee hee hee! "Get her!" That was your whole plan, huh, "get her." Very scientific.

6:18 am
May 23, 2009


alicat

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Okay, Oubliette, if you are reading this stop now!  It's for your own good.  Do not read Revenant's previous post!  Look away my friend!

Revenant,

Thank you for giving me the heads up.  I've cleaned the floor around my computer and just unwrapped the monitor and keyboard.  Ugh!  I may not be able to drink hot tea again.  But, after reading these links, I think I should have had something stronger like a bourbon and branch.

"Aggressively skeptical"?  On what planet?

Also, in the comment section FormerGHFan posted his 3 videos and her response was #10.  My comments are {noted}:

"Sorry, FORMERGHFAN, but I still disagree. I doubt that you’ve talked to Grant to ask him exactly what he felt and why he stumbled back. {she's doubting but she never talked to Grant herself about this}

Okay, his collar was pulled down and not back. Maybe it was a short ghost, reaching up. {Seriously?  LOL!}

We don’t know exactly what he felt, that pulled him back. At the time, he interpreted it as something pulling on his jacket. After calming down and thinking about it, he may have reached a different conclusion. {We are still waiting,he hasn't calmed down and thought about it yet?}

I know that I’ve had second thoughts about my ghostly encounters. When I take the time to discard my assumptions, I often realize that something very different happened. In some cases, it’s as simple as, “Oh. I was wearing sandals. If I’d tripped over something physical, I’d have stubbed my toe or felt whatever-it-was against my foot.” {Great example, buit I realize something different happened because you were in a darkend location and you simply fell!}

So, maybe when Grant thought about it, after the show, he was able to articulate the experience better. {Again, this happened when?}

It may sound absurd, but maybe it wasn’t something pulling him backwards by the jacket. Maybe he was in a vortex and the force of the energy around him pulled him back, while something in the vortex tugged on his collar. {This is absolutely absurd, pulling back while something else tugging the collar?}

Sure, that’s extreme, but I’m hoping to make a point here.

I know Grant and consider him a good friend. If you know his background, he has many reasons for living a totally honest life. It’s just not in his nature to lie, much less set up a hoax like the one you’re describing.  {see below}

That said, James Randi would probably enjoy your videos. I hope you sent him the links. He makes a living claiming that just because something could be faked, it was a hoax.

I think you need to have more faith in Grant, and look for paranormal explanations. There are ways to use special effects tricks for almost everything we encounter in haunted places. That doesn’t disprove the authenticity of what happens, and it doesn’t prove that it’s a hoax." {Really? see below}

So, the reason she didn't believe collargate was basically because "I know Grant and consider him a good friend" and "he has many reasons for living a totallly honest life".  Typical GH answer to throw a lot of words at you but never go into an explanation about what they mean.  Just "if you know his background", "not in his nature to lie, much less set up a hoax" are just a jumble of meaningless words which do not convince me of anything.  I don't know her personnaly but, from reading her written comments, I know she's very condescending if you don't accept her explanations and it doesn't take much intelligence to see she's in the tank for her fellow "investigators".

In the original link she claims documented increasingly clear EVPs?  Nice claim but certainly not true.  She claims this to be related to a rapport with spirits because they improve as they investigate.  Yes, that may be true, they have been doing this for awhile but I doubt it's related to the rappport with spirts but more like the rapport with their equipment, fishing lines, and cast/crew.  This location was a "profoundly haunted setting"?  Please.  I'm guessing that's what her good friends have told her.

As far as Jason's Myspace, and that he "tends to be aggresively skeptical.  This show was no exception."  I think she must have misunderstood aggressively skeptical with PO'd with Grant for pulling the stunts. As he never appeared skeptical, just angry.

I'll give her this "Likewise, it looked to me as if Grant was asking the producers if they were in the wrong location… if they weren’t actually supposed to be where they were at that moment."

So, she says she doesn't think Jason, Grant or the TAPS team faked the voice, yet Jason and Grant tell us it was an EVP. Hmmm……

This quote I just loved "I also trust the integrity of the SciFi channel."  I guess if I were in her "field" I'd be greasing those wheels too but I think we've all had our fill of trusting the integrity of CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, BBC and FOX and they present supposedly real news with film as well.  SciFi channel – not so much.

I won't go into her "other natural explanations" because she is clearly never going to say anything other than her strong conviction that Jason is extremely skeptical.

I'll leave you with the points (I have highlighted within some ironic points) that make my case:

"Jason and Grant are good friends.  I see them at least once a year and we’ve chatted over breakfasts, lunches, dinners and at parties.  We exchange emails when something is of mutual concern."

Grant is one of the most honest people I’ve ever met.  He’s a really clean-living guy.  Grant looks you straight in the eye when he talks with you.   He leaves parties even earlier in the evening than I do… and that’s saying a lot.

I know both Grant and his wife, and neither of them would make make things up.  They’re squeaky-clean, and I’d trust Grant (or his wife) completely in any context.

Jason sometimes seems like an almost incorrigible skeptic.  If anything, he’s likely to trivialize evidence that the rest of us point to as proof of a haunting.  So, it’s absurd to think that he’d be part of a hoax. That’d be completely out of character.

Sure, Jason has a very dry wit, but he would never compromise his own integrity as a ghost hunter, the integrity of the TAPS team or the Ghost Hunters TV show.  That’s not his style.  If you’ve met him in real life or listened to him talk at any conference, you know that he’s rock-solid honest.

At this point, I would hope that Jason and Grant have earned enough money that they could retire tomorrow, if they wanted to.

If the show’s production company said, “We want you to fake this,” Jay and Grant would reply, “We’d quit rather than do that.”

And, they would.

They have no reason to compromise their integrity.  None whatsoever.

 — if that voice was part of a hoax — I’m confident that Jason, Grant and the SciFi channel weren’t aware of it.

I’ve said it often: It’s a mistake to judge what is (and isn’t) a real haunting, a real ghost photo or real EVP  unless you were there.

The incident with Grant’s jacket is another issue altogether.  It couldn’t have been faked without Grant’s knowledge, and there’s zero chance he’d be part of a hoax.

All in all, I trust Jason and Grant.  They say that they didn’t fake anything on the show, and I believe them.

Personally, I’ll keep watching the show and enjoy it tremendously.

After all that, would anyone think she would write an uncomplimentary review of the Inn?

Here's a link from someone who posted about their recent stay.  It was written on May 17, 2009.  Bet you won't see this on their myspace pages or in Ms. Broome's links.  It is the first actual review.  The others are from 2006 and before Jason and Grant purchased the Inn.  Note the words peaceful and quiet in the other reviews - not a "good scare".  I believe one of the reasons the previous owners went bankrupt was a comment made in these reviews prior to J&G:  "Due to the end of the summer the Inn had very few guests the night we stayed"  When there is snow, you can't get a reservation anywhere but once the season ends, there are too many rooms available to maintain the place.  Check it out. 

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g46272-d92252-r30151816-Spalding_Inn-Whitefield_New_Hampshire.html#REVIEWS

7:28 am
May 23, 2009


blinddog

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Gosh, alicat, spike up the ol' herbal tea with some 5 Hour Energy Drink?
And on a weekend too.
Concerning Fiona and all her BS, she's just suckin' up and trying to ride somebody's coattails to make a buck or trying to be famous by association.
If it wasn't J&G it would be somebody else.
Take her with a grain of salt or a grain of Dreamdust, whichever.

About the Tripadvisor review.
Apparently dnaroian forgot to do any research on the Spalding Inn before lodging there.
She forgot to kowtow to the Goddesses of Ghosts in the way of which they have grown accustomed by the GH believers.

Double tap to the head. Don't become Undead.

7:48 am
May 23, 2009


alicat

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Why don't doctors tell you the meds they give you are so high in their dosage of caffeine that you're up all night?  Even the Ambien I added (at the ok of the pharmacist) didn't help.  I'm beginning to know how tough Oubliette has it when she's not well.  As tired as I was, the Ambien was useless.  It's been 48 hrs. straight with a few winks now and again.  Thank goodness we're in for the weekend.

Yes, I agree she would suck up to anyone in her field.  When I read things like this it just makes me want to scream.  I will try to be more succinct next time.  I promise. Cool

Have a great Memorial Day weekend!  Laughing

3:02 pm
May 23, 2009


Revenant

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posts 1393

alicat said:

I know Grant and consider him a good friend. If you know his background, he has many reasons for living a totally honest life. It’s just not in his nature to lie, much less set up a hoax like the one you’re describing.  {see below}

I think you need to have more faith in Grant, and look for paranormal explanations. There are ways to use special effects tricks for almost everything we encounter in haunted places. That doesn’t disprove the authenticity of what happens, and it doesn’t prove that it’s a hoax." {Really? see below}

So, the reason she didn't believe collargate was basically because "I know Grant and consider him a good friend" and "he has many reasons for living a totallly honest life".  Typical GH answer to throw a lot of words at you but never go into an explanation about what they mean.  Just "if you know his background", "not in his nature to lie, much less set up a hoax" are just a jumble of meaningless words which do not convince me of anything. 


When she spoke about Grant, it reminded me of my grandfather.  My grandfather never went to college.  In fact, he quit school when he was 15 to begin working.  Yet, to this day, he's one the smartest people that I've ever known.  He would have been a brilliant psychologist.  He knew human nature.  It was his favorite topic.  He would go on and on about why people would do things or why they wouldn't do things.

Some street-wise advice that he once gave me: "The devil isn't going to come up to you showing his horns and tail.  He'll walk up to you, extend his hand, smile and say 'I'm here to help you.' (Hi!  We're TAPS and we're here to help!)  There are two types of con-men in this world.  Good ones and bad ones.  Don't worry about the bad ones, you'll spot them a mile away.  But the good ones…those are tough.  They'll be the 'salt of the earth, everyday kind of guy.'  You're never going to suspect them…too clean.  There's only one way to catch them and they have only one true enemy…time.  Time will give them away.  They can't keep the con going forever.  For some people, yeah.  But not you…I expect more out of you than that."

That's what I think of when I think of Grant.  A good guy, a salt of the earth kind of guy.  He would never do anything that he thought was blatantly wrong.  But as time went on…I began noticing things.  We all did.  At first, you don't want to believe it.  Must be a mistake.  Just a misconception.  Maybe it's just nothing.  I can see why Ms Broome clings to this notion, after all, he's sooo nice.  But suspicious event after suspicious event (see The Grant List) keep popping up.  It's no longer a coincidence.  Grant's a con-man.  A good one.  The paranormal field provides a perfect backdrop.  He may not have started out as one, but he certainly is now.

It's a shame my grandfather is no longer with us.  He'd have a field day with Grant.  I would literally pay money to see Jason and Grant in the same room as my grandfather.  Once you wiped away most of the blood and tears…it would be like art.  Something to behold and cherish…

(Hey, it's Memorial Day weekend.  Nothing like a little memory of the grandfather to start off things right.  Wink )

"Skepticism is not a position, it's a process." -Dr Michael Shermer

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