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S08E04: Dead and Breakfast (01-Feb-2012, 9pm E)

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2:00 pm
January 31, 2012


Nosfer

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GH goes to the Thomas House Bed and Breakfast (thus the clever twist they employ for the title) in Tennessee for this very Christmas-like episode. It's been a while since we heard what an EVP is so Grant is on hand to explain it to us. Expect the usual cast of characters on the paranormal side: Freddy Footfall, William Whatzat, and Henry Hello.

An interesting thing about this place's Calendar of Events is that they already have a color-code set up for "Paranormal Event" although the calendar looks clear of them for this year, will be interesting to see if this category gets populated into the various dates following this week's show.

Events WERE held last year so this place is already set up for "ghost tours" Make of that what you will. In fact, in June of 2011, GH's own Steve and Amy held a weekend of "ghost hunting" at this very spot. Make of that what you will. I will be listening to see if any of this is mentioned during this week's episode.

In addition to TAPS already performing here, there are claims of several ghosts in this place though a certain local group has yet to collect any video/photo evidence (they do claim to have a slough of EVPs, though)

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9:53 am
February 2, 2012


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Post edited 9:59 am – February 2, 2012 by Learjet


Ghosts whistle Roger Ramjet now? Confused

Adam has lowered the EMF HS threshold to anything above 1.0. Just to be sure.

Flashlight Amy uses 3 lights now, also just to be sure. If at first you don't succeed with the SFT, use more flashlights.

Oh by the way, I read a good one on the TAPS forum recently. If the answers come before the question, its not because the SFT is rubbish, it's because spirits can read your mind and anticipate the question. That's just gold (pyrite).

OD'd on EMF

10:08 am
February 2, 2012


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She was complaining during the Live Halloween show about only having one flashlight, said she gets better results when she can use multiple ones.  Yep, three flashlights triples the odds that one will come on.  If she is going to use three, then she should point to the one she wants to have come on…oh, and as I've griped about before, make sure also that they show her lips moving in the same frame that the flashlight is in.  She proclaims today that the interaction went on for 30 minutes and was "spot on" 

So, why didn't they show that in the Reveal?

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11:22 am
February 2, 2012


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Did anyone get a chance to look at the owners evidence a few times, more interested in the second piece they showed but I don't have DVR so I didn't really get a good look at it. Found it more interesting then anything TAPS presented.

In 3……2……1……!!!!

11:54 am
February 2, 2012


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It appears to be a figure standing facing away from the camera, sort of turned to it's right, it then turns toward it's left and disappears.  Here is possibly the original video:

http://www.facebook.com/video/…..8;comments

It could easily be a real person who turns and goes down the steps, hard to say, there is nothing tell-tale about it saying "g-g-g-h-h-host"

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1:21 pm
February 2, 2012


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Thanks, I didn't really get a good look at it to make any kind of legit determination on it. There is just no way to believe the whistling at all, especially when they say "It's awesome to hear about the clames the residents are having, and then get to expierence them ourselves", wouldn't it make much more sense to just know which rooms are the most "active" and see what happens and then try to find out if it matches? I'm sure that topic has been beaten to death but their logic is just so flawed to me.

In 3……2……1……!!!!

2:41 pm
February 2, 2012


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Skooter said:

Thanks, I didn't really get a good look at it to make any kind of legit determination on it. There is just no way to believe the whistling at all, especially when they say "It's awesome to hear about the clames the residents are having, and then get to expierence them ourselves", wouldn't it make much more sense to just know which rooms are the most "active" and see what happens and then try to find out if it matches? I'm sure that topic has been beaten to death but their logic is just so flawed to me.


 

Logic?  What is this "logic" of which you speak?

3:09 pm
February 2, 2012


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Skooter said:

wouldn't it make much more sense to just know which rooms are the most "active" and see what happens and then try to find out if it matches? I'm sure that topic has been beaten to death but their logic is just so flawed to me.


 

Yes, there have been many debates here about this as to whether they should go in completely blind, partially blind, or full-on-seeing.  There are merits to each of those and I don't know that we ever came to any sort of consensous.  Not that it really matters since you have to factor in other things about the show's results.

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5:43 am
February 3, 2012


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Learjet said:

Oh by the way, I read a good one on the TAPS forum recently. If the answers come before the question, its not because the SFT is rubbish, it's because spirits can read your mind and anticipate the question. That's just gold (pyrite).


That's also just "waggin' the dog". 

7:52 am
February 3, 2012


Learjet

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I haven't heard of wagging the dog before. Sounds fitting.

You know I'm almost thinking this place is a fun house the way sounds were coming out so frequently. But the sound quality didn't seem deteriorated as a playback would. Just thinking aloud…

OD'd on EMF

10:10 am
February 3, 2012


Patrick

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I think he means the tail waggin' the dog.

1:29 pm
February 3, 2012


Skooter

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Nosfer said:


 

Yes, there have been many debates here about this as to whether they should go in completely blind, partially blind, or full-on-seeing.  There are merits to each of those and I don't know that we ever came to any sort of consensous.  Not that it really matters since you have to factor in other things about the show's results.


 

Agreed…I could see positives and negatives of all, its hard to buy into things on PS when the pyschic comes in blind and the make sure the audience knows this. Either way this show has leaped off the believability cliff for me. I can't even remotely trust anything on that show anymore, its clearly about money and ratings now.

In 3……2……1……!!!!

2:54 pm
February 3, 2012


Lindy

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I'm not positive that this is the correct use of the term but to my knowledge to "wag the dog" or the "tail waggin the dog" is akin to a misdirection or a diversionary tactic. In this case trying anything but to admit what a joke and dismal failure the SFT is by offering such a lame explanation of why sometimes the answer pre-empts the question.

4:06 pm
February 3, 2012


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Post edited 4:09 pm – February 3, 2012 by Nosfer


Tail wagging the dog is where some minor part seems to control the major, ie something reversed.  Jason trying to explain to us what EMF is would be somewhat of an example.  Me (a non dentist) telling a dentist what needs to be done would be another.

 

Edited: Another (better) explanation when I looked is…A situation in which an apparently insignificant or powerless entity controls the larger system of which it is a part.

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6:37 pm
February 3, 2012


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Had I caught my ex-wife red-handed in bed with another man, she would have claimed that his thing was on fire and she was only trying to put it out for him.

As long as the die hard fan keeps lapping up this nonsense as proof positive and the show's ratings remain high, we will never hear anyone admit that results such as those presented by the SFT are mundane or simply fodder for Hoyle.

9:51 pm
February 3, 2012


Learjet

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We have seen a lot of tail wagging the dog with K2 sessions where the answer comes before the question is finished also. In fact anytime where questions are asked of some dodgy ghost box for casper to answer with.

Thanks to these shows, it's hard to find a paranormal investigation group that doesn't bring their own ghost with them in some form.

OD'd on EMF

6:09 am
February 4, 2012


Lindy

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Post edited 6:20 am – February 4, 2012 by Lindy
Post edited 6:22 am – February 4, 2012 by Lindy


This is the context for the term "wag the dog" that I was referring to

http://www.usingenglish.com/re…..e+dog.html

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