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11:07 am
January 18, 2012
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Nosfer
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Caveat emptor…or should I say caveat observator? The team heads to a hotel in Naples, NY to see if a suicide victim by the name of "Topper" from the 1920s has come back to haunt the owner. The hotel is ready for the influx of interest following the show, apparently. From their facebook page:
"We are once again working on a project for the Hotel. In the wake of the show, we expect quite a bit of out-of-town interest in the ghosts of The Naples Hotel, so we're going to try to put together some ghost tours."
Try? I bet they succeed in putting those tours together. They are expecting interest in the ghosts…that means that GH will probably confirm the place as being haunted. Any bets?
Then, the investigators travel to Gardner, MA, where a family is tormeted by the entities in their house. GH will just be a phone call away after the reveal. This is interesting, though, TWO family investigations in a row. I have to say I'm pleased at this surprise, though not quite pleased in the way the last one went, hopefully this one will be better. Any bets?
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2:59 pm
January 18, 2012
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Patrick
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When is the last time they told a commercial property that it was not haunted? Anyone remember?
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4:04 pm
January 18, 2012
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Moss Beach, the Lizzie Borden House, and the Winchester House come readily to mind…
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12:07 am
January 19, 2012
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CrowTRobot
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2nd investigation: When I first heard the sound while J&G were in the office (towards the end of the episode) I thought it was the dog. The second sound almost like a whimper. Other than that, same-o-same.
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8:49 am
January 19, 2012
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I see they have removed the pre-reveal evidence analysis section where they mull over the sound and video footage.
And of course the only ghosts they find are friendly. Demons need not apply. Unless you're from GAC.
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8:58 am
January 19, 2012
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Yeah, I was thinking Maddi was making a sound. You know she of the "5 seconds of airtime" fame :)
This episode is sort of a hybrid in essence. You do have a family investigation, but also an old hotel that is being renovated/up for sale/ghost tours…but you also include a New England couple in their own home as well.
All in all, I thought it was nice, getting rid of the "Let's look at the camera placement in the van" scene, as well as the analysis scene. Gives us more to watch during the investigation.
Good work having the FLIR on the light at the bar. You can definitely see that it did roll and not get pushed or kicked along the floor.
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9:21 am
January 19, 2012
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I thought it quite interesting they went back to a RESIDENCE they had been to before. They've done a scant few repeats to "establishments" but this was new. Not sure they improved anything (and it shows they didn't really help out the first owner) but it was a nice change and it was also good to see two residences in a row (last week and this week)
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9:54 am
January 19, 2012
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Nosfer said:
Moss Beach, the Lizzie Borden House, and the Winchester House come readily to mind…
Moss Beach was the one where the owners faked it, right? Had the speakers in the ceiling or something, so that doesn't count.
Lizzie Borden house is an attraction of its own without need of paranormal tour income.
Don't remember the Winchester House.
So, that's roughly 6 seasons of mostly commerical properties with one non-haunted finding. Wow. It's like finding Bigfoot in the suburbs of Baltimore. Who knew it was so widespread yet so hard to prove! 
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10:11 am
January 19, 2012
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Just because Lizzie Borden is an attraction of its own doesn't mean you can discount it. It's still commercial. Moss Beach, too, despite the supposed faking. And I am having trouble believing that setup. Given some of the dissing that they have done lately, I can see this as being an "assert ourselves" episode. Those were just off the top of my head, there MAY be others…or there may not lol, by and large the commercials ARE found to have activity or at least the viewer is left with that impression.
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11:18 am
January 19, 2012
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I just mention Lizzie Borden because it seems that the show needs to be called "Ghost Tour Pimps" instead of Ghost Hunters. Basically, GH is certifying just about every commercial property they "investigate" as haunted so the owners can try to make a profit. Lizzie Borden House likely doesn't need such exposure because of the history, so it was easy for GH to declare "not haunted".
Same for Moss Beach. As I recall, the internet was already full of references to the, shall I say, manufactured experiences for Moss Beach. That would have been real embarassing for GH not to have found the ghost machines.
But just about every other commercial property has a siginifcant economic interest (can you tell I am a lawyer?) in the GH Seal of Haunted Approval, and I don't doubt for a second that part of the agreement to investigate these sites is that GH will find it haunted so that the owners can reap the ecomonic benefit.
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6:39 pm
January 19, 2012
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Did anyone think to possibly put a camera in the hotel room that had the pictures tilting? Really?! Why didn't J&G even think to do this? Even the other two noticed a "slight" tilt when they investigated, but never thought to put a camera on it to check for more movement….so stupid! 
I also thought the "scream" was the dog….they didn't even consider it. Such crap. Also, why do these people bother to ask them to help identify and remove the supposed ghost? They NEVER do that sort of crap. J&G should just tell them…" ummmm, we don't do that…we just tell you that your ghosts are harmless and that you can call us back to do nothing for you again in the future!"
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12:37 pm
January 20, 2012
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Has anyone else noticed how each "team" seams to have a ghost 'specialty'? J+G always here voices, Amy and whoever she's with see shadows, and Steve and Tango get the moving doors.( So glad that I tuned in to watch this episode after not giving them much thought for the last few seasons.)
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1:30 pm
January 20, 2012
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Much like the group as a whole. No matter where they go, they seem to get the same type of experiences and the episode plays out similarly to countless others in the past. When GA goes to a place they get different types of experiences (different from GH but fairly consistent within the GA episodes) and each episode is similar to all the others in what they experience.
This is fine when they each go to a distinct (non-overlapping) set of locations.
But, when overlap occurs, when one goes to the same location that the other has been to, this doesn't change The experiences for GA remain consistent with what they encounter everywhere else and the experiences for GH are similar to what THEY encounter everywhere else. This tells me that it's the team that determines what is found, not the place itself. But we already knew that.
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10:47 pm
January 20, 2012
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Exactly. Can you imagine GA at Gardner Mansion? They would have found all sorts of demons and Zak would have become possessed for sure.
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12:29 pm
January 21, 2012
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Learjet said:
Exactly. Can you imagine GA at Gardner Mansion? They would have found all sorts of demons and Zak would have become possessed for sure.
Learjet, what do you mean "become possessed"? He's been possessed by a big ham for years.
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10:52 pm
January 21, 2012
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I'm sure he has plenty of room for improvement yet lol.
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3:37 pm
February 9, 2012
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Skepticalgirl said:
Did anyone think to possibly put a camera in the hotel room that had the pictures tilting? Really?! Why didn't J&G even think to do this? Even the other two noticed a "slight" tilt when they investigated, but never thought to put a camera on it to check for more movement….so stupid!
I also thought the "scream" was the dog….they didn't even consider it. Such crap. Also, why do these people bother to ask them to help identify and remove the supposed ghost? They NEVER do that sort of crap. J&G should just tell them…" ummmm, we don't do that…we just tell you that your ghosts are harmless and that you can call us back to do nothing for you again in the future!"
I finally had a chance to watch this episode and I thought the same thing Skepticalgirl! Why didn't they put a camera on the picture that kept changing! That leads me to believe that they figured out that it was the crew bumping into it unknowingly or causing it to tilt by simply walking around by it, but wanted it to be a real paranormal experience so they didn't want to reveal the true cause of the tilting. A real investigator would have put a stinking camera on it or at least set up a camera on the paintings just because there was a claim that they move. So frustrating that this show doesn't improve on skills.
The scream to me actually sounded like a rooster crowing, but it maybe that my ears are clogged from this cold. It didn't sound human whatever it was.
A growl or possible possession with the woman not knowing why she is digging in the Gardner Mansion would have had GA hunting demons, but GH says "harmless". Most investigators claim growls and possible possession as demonic in nature, but not the good ol' GH boys! All ghosties are harmless!
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3:45 pm
February 9, 2012
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Post edited 3:46 pm – February 9, 2012 by Nosfer
Buffy said:
A growl or possible possession with the woman not knowing why she is digging in the Gardner Mansion would have had GA hunting demons, but GH says "harmless". Most investigators claim growls and possible possession as demonic in nature, but not the good ol' GH boys! All ghosties are harmless!
Course not, you want to have the right level of "hauntedness" if you're going to have ghost-tours. Demons might scare away potential tour-takers lol
Edited: Cleared up excess space!
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5:38 pm
February 28, 2012
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Watching the re-run of the episode today and during the hotel portion, does anyone else think that Jay shifts his weight strangely when he walks the pictures. This is shown while they are watching the replay to see if the pictures were straight.
To me it looks like hes kicking the wall with his left leg (just below the, later to be shown tilted picture frame), or possibly he is kicking a chair out of the way for himself, or the camera man? Either case, if anything hitting the wall (leg or chair) near the frame could easily cause a poorly hung painting frame to shift.
Looks deliberate to me.
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