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S07E20: Murdered Matron (26-Oct-2011; 9pm E)

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2:48 pm
October 24, 2011


Nosfer

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Post edited 2:49 pm – October 24, 2011 by Nosfer


In a season wrought with new (and unnecessary) investigators (both two- and four-legged) it is only fitting that we finish out the pre-Halloween run (there will be four more in November) with an episode featuring Meredith Vieira.

Yeah, you read that right; and no, I'm not making that up.

Grant's goldfish, Iggy, was also scheduled to join them…but wasn't able to take time off from school.

Sad to say, but I'm looking at the episodes with Heather Drolet and her dowsing rods as "the good ol' days." Meredith Vieira. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours…Jason and Grant will return the favor by taking part in a very special "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" (I suppose that's appropriate) which will air on Halloween.  Who woulda thought?!  I guess "Weakest Link" was all booked?

Having said that, I can't take this episode very seriously. In fact the last one I took seriously aired in '84 and had guest stars Murray, Aykroyd…oh, wait.   I'll just say that the intrepid hunters tackle the Veteran's Memorial Hall Playhouse on Staten Island this week. Presumably to look for some sort of paranormal activity. Will be interesting to see what the claims are here as I haven't found any yet other than a Halloween Ghost Tour, and THAT can't have anything to do with why they investigated, can it? 

Well, there IS an unconfirmed "legend" about a woman who chained her illegitimate (or disabled depending upon which version you read) son in the basement.  The child escaped (so must have been down there for quite a while) and went after his mother, killing her with scissors.  He was eventually found and hung.  So either this was a child-hanging, or the kid had been locked down there a LONG time.  I guess that's why this is still more just a "legend" than anything else.

 

 

 

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3:34 pm
October 24, 2011


Learjet

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So they will be looking for the ghost of Edward Scissorhands?

OD'd on EMF

3:56 pm
October 24, 2011


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That's a good one Learjet.I thought this was a joke, but pulled this up all over the place and it's mentioned in the New York Post. If they were doing limbo, they still couldn't get any lower.

4:58 pm
October 24, 2011


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With full and total credit to Learjet:

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3:53 pm
October 27, 2011


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Alright.  We have a twist on the SFT in this episode.  After years of us yelling about how meaningless a light going on and off is and how it would be better to have one designated Yes and one as No, they finally DO IT!

BUT.

I even made the prediction while watching this that they would find a way to weasel out of doing anything with it while giving the illusion that they were doing something "scientific"  And sure enough… 

…After establishing which flashlight was Yes and which was No, Adam deflects from the SFT by hearing something.  And Amy takes the cue and pretty much ends the SFT by going on a chase-down hunt instead of using the flashlights to communicate (a pity, too, since the ghost was quite willing to communicate and very cooperative for the first blink)

It was also interesting when Amy, at the end of this little scene, asked one final Yes/No question (apparently forgetting that she had set up the flashlights for just such a question) that NEITHER of the lights came on.

So now they can claim that they use a more meaningful method of communication, and the masses will forget that short of establishing the implements of Yes and No, no further attempts at communication were done.

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1:16 am
October 28, 2011


Learjet

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Interestingly, for us skeptics it proves the SFT simply isn't manipulated by intelligence when it fails to "answer" questions. Yet as you say for GH and their fans, failure to answer a direct question is ignored. The SFT going off on it's own when they are endlessly jabbering is taken for proof when it would have gone off regardless. I guess skeptics and believers think differently!

The voices were interesting, but without knowing how well conditions are controlled and if there was someone outside who's voice carried indoors… who knows.

Jason still loves to describe the K2 as something that picks up "magnetic fields". In all his years of ghost hunting, he hasn't bothered to learn a thing about electronics or how the equipment they use actually works. Neither has Steve. It's either willful ignorance or they collectively have an IQ of 10.

OD'd on EMF

9:16 am
October 28, 2011


Patrick

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Learjet said:

"It's either willful ignorance or they collectively have an IQ of 10."

 

Can't it be both?  Wink

9:22 am
October 28, 2011


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Post edited 9:31 am – October 28, 2011 by Verklagekasper


They could enhance the stupid flashlight trick even more. They could take a large Ouija board and place a flashlight on each letter. If they make a ghost spell long words or names, I'd be even impressed. Until then, it'll be hard to convince me that the SFT is more than just the bulp going on when the metal of the lamp has contracted enough during the cooldown process to close the circuit, and going off again when the metal expanded from the  bulb's heat.

 

I think the flashlight trick just works like this:

 

12:41 pm
October 28, 2011


hyacinth

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Verklagekasper said:

 They could take a large Ouija board and place a flashlight on each letter. If they make a ghost spell long words or names,


 

Or go through the alphabet a letter at a time and ask Casper to turn on the light when they get to each letter of their name or whatever .

1:01 pm
October 28, 2011


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Or how they probably arrived at the 1940s for the person waiting there at Buffalo Central Terminal the first time.

Jason: Light up the K2 if it's the year 1929

Pause

Jason: Okay, light up the K2 if it's the year 1930

Another pause

Jason: Alright, if it's the year 1931, light up the K2

More nothing

Jason (getting irritated): If it's 1932 turn on the K2, you can do it, just go near it.

Nothing

Minutes later

Jason: $&@$! Alright, light it up if it's 1939 then! (to Grant) Why do we even bother with these guys?

Nothing

Jason (Exhaling deeply): I'm getting @#%$#ed and not going to be here all night. Is it 1940????

Nothing

Jason (to Grant): Alright, let's just tell them it was in the 1940s

Grant: Sounds good. Stupid unresponsive ghost! Oh, heh, heh, whoops, Embarassed, I was pressing the wrong button on my walkie. Ask it again.

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1:58 pm
October 28, 2011


Verklagekasper

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Post edited 2:01 pm – October 28, 2011 by Verklagekasper


hyacinth said:

Verklagekasper said:

 They could take a large Ouija board and place a flashlight on each letter. If they make a ghost spell long words or names,


 

Or go through the alphabet a letter at a time and ask Casper to turn on the light when they get to each letter of their name or whatever .


 

I've actually seen that done with a K2meter in "Paranormal Challenge". AFAIK the resulting name of the ghost was "Mo". Laugh There's no need for long names in the afterlife, it seems. Or they stopped before the name could turn into something like  "Mofrmbln".

2:04 pm
October 28, 2011


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Verklagekasper said:

 

I've actually seen that done with a K2meter in "Paranormal Challenge". AFAIK the resulting name of the ghost was "Mo". Laugh There's no need for long names in the afterlife, it seems. Or they stopped before the name could turn into something like  "Mofrmbln".


 

And in the next room the K2 started spelling out C-U-R-L…  Smile

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9:58 pm
October 28, 2011


Verklagekasper

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Nosfer said:

And in the next room the K2 started spelling out C-U-R-L…  Smile


 

Nooo! The names of the three Stooges are Zak, Nick, and Aaron.

7:10 am
October 29, 2011


Learjet

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Verklagekasper said:

….. it'll be hard to convince me that the SFT is more than just the bulp going on when the metal of the lamp has contracted enough during the cooldown process to close the circuit, and going off again when the metal expanded from the  bulb's heat.

 

I think the flashlight trick just works like this:

 


 

I agree with you Verklagekasper and I can prove that you are correct.

A paranormal investigation team took some unedited footage of their flashlight communication with a "ghost" and uploaded it to youtube. In the course of their 14 minutes of "spirit communication" with the flashlight going on and off, I plotted the event on a graph. http://img256.imageshack.us/im…..timeky.jpg

Apart from the hiccup at 6:30 the graph demonstrates a rhythmic thermodynamic cycle, much like the drinking bird.

If we had access to unedited GH footage of the SFT we would see similar.

OD'd on EMF

1:54 pm
October 30, 2011


hyacinth

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hyacinth said:

 

Or go through the alphabet a letter at a time and ask Casper to turn on the light when they get to each letter of their name or whatever .


 

Duh What was I thinking ? They get a couple of light flashes and get distracted " did you see  that ? " They have the attention span of a house plant . Having seen too many of these I just watch it for what little entertainment is in it.

 Since I'm here I'll mention something that bugs me  about GH . They will sit in a room supposedly trying to get Casper to talk to them and all the while they jabber away to each other . Casper couldn't get a word in if he tried .

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