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S07E09: A Soldier's Story (20-Apr-2011, 9pm E)

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11:04 am
April 20, 2011


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Tonight is the Season Finale, or more likely the Half-Season Finale (or Half-Baked, Half-Season Finale) of GH.  Although, given the circumstances of this investigation, I think it's more like completely baked.

In this episode, the team heads to Derby, Connecticut to investigate the Sterling Opera House.  This house was previously investigated by Most Haunted.  I'm still waiting to see how a Soldier's Story fits into this unless there was once the story of a soldier told in a singing-format.

The Opera House was built in 1889 and, in 1968, it became the first building in Connecticut to be listed on the National Register of Historic Places. The Opera House is an acoustical masterpiece. What do I mean by that and what does that have to do with tonight's investigation? Well, it is said that, acoustically, the Sterling has no equal and that even a whisper can be hear from all areas of the auditorium. Keep that in mind tonight when they do the usual "Did you hear that?"

The famous Harry Houdini performed on stage here and Dave Tango attempts to top his performance by doing some magic acts, presumably as a means of making the ghosts think they are watching Harry and maybe will feel at home and come out to play. All this really does is show some sleight of hand that they would probably be better off not calling attention to…

The place does appear to have a "haunted past" in that there have been EVPs recorded (wow!) and there have also been pictures taken which show orbs (double wow!) Then there are the ubiquitous shadow people (triple wow!)

From: http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/n…..0910301205

""We thought we saw a rat on the railing, hey look a rat on the railing, and upon further examination, it had like wispiness of smoke coming off of it. So, before running out of the building like a scardeycat, I took a couple of shots straight up," said Rich DiCarlo, Valley Arts Council.

DiCarlo took some pictures, one of which shows what appears to be a woman in a Victorian-era dress."

Valley Arts Council? Ah, the ones who are trying to renovate the place. Yes, renovate. This appears to be another case of "we need to help these people [get funding and publicity]."

A very interesting article which has one of the photographs and speaks rather not-highly about it.

My favorite line?  It would have to be: "Just because you can trace a line around random objects, and make it  resemble a human figure does not mean it’s a ghost."  How many times have we literally yelled that same thing here?

http://www.ghosttheory.com/200…..osts-there

Looking for more reason to be suspicious of this investigation?  How about this from 18 August 2010:

"Rich DiCarlo, the Cultural Commission chairman, is trying to get the public interested in the future of the opera  house, which needs a major renovation."

http://nhregister.com/articles…..081810.txt

And, thus, on 2 February 2011 GH was given approval to investigate the Derby: http://valley.newhavenindepend…..t_hunters/

which they did starting the very end of February and into March: http://www.ctpost.com/news/art…..035827.php

"The town of Derby is happy to have the exposure for the building. Officials are trying to raise money to turn the possibly-haunted building into a performing arts center."

Some more favorite lines:

"In the meantime, the city is busy marketing the place as a supernatural tourist spot. The show “Ghost Hunters” is scheduled to tape an episode inside Sterling later this month."

http://valley.newhavenindepend…..a_Is_Here/

And the coup-de-grace (this town just needs to learn how to shut up): "Derby Cultural Commission Chairman Rich DiCarlo, who was instrumental in getting the production to come to Derby, said “whether they find something or not, this is bringing national attention to our city and the opera house. The savior of the opera house is going to come from outside the Valley.”"

http://middletownpress.com/art…..7941.txt  (see also the second page for the above quote)

The hauntings all appear to be attributed to this DiCarlo fellow who has a vested interest in all this.  Hmmmm.

Before using a K2 meter in the Opera House, they need to use a BS-meter on the client.

So, given all this, be sure to have a lot of NaCl (or KCl depending upon dietary restrictions) on standby in order to get you through tonight's episode.

Cue to begin drinking: "On this episode of Ghost Hunters…"

Cue to stop drinking: [bump] "On to the next"

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12:15 pm
April 20, 2011


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My…nice detective work there.  Smile  I do find myself a bit more interested in the cases where the client doesn't want any paranormal activity.  Whenever the client has a vested interested…I start looking for open windows and fishing line…

As for Tango "doing some magic"….yeah.  When a magician works to expose psychics and such, like James Randi, that works.  When a paranormal investigator shows that he can manipulate something in order to "fool" people…yeah, that doesn't work all that well.  With that said, I trust Tango more than anyone on that show, past or present.  Hmmm…not sure if that's really a compliment though… Laugh

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8:16 pm
April 20, 2011


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The only paranormal encounter that that guy left out of the tour was the flippin' Stay Puft Marshmallow.  There didn't seem to be any suspicion in Jason's voice when he said that practically every inch of the place seemed to have paranormal activity.

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8:51 pm
April 20, 2011


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All those noises in the attic that they hear and the best they can do is have Jason look under the bed?

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9:21 pm
April 20, 2011


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But of course. There's always a monster under the bed!

OD'd on EMF

9:26 pm
April 20, 2011


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You're right, how silly of me to forget! Laugh  "Something Under the Bed is Drooling" by Watterson

Let's see, kid runs in and doesn't want to sleep in his room because a W told him to leave.  CLASSIC afraid to sleep alone because of a monster (or a monster used as an excuse to try to sleep in parents room)  This whole episode left me with a bad taste in my mouth.  No mention of her husband coming home during the first part.  It was all too "image polishing" for me.

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10:54 pm
April 20, 2011


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"The thump was in here, I can be 100% sure of that"  this scene appeared to be shown twice in the investigation.  Jason says the same line twice the same way in the main bedroom…including shots going down the hall leading to the bedroom.  Coincidence?

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9:14 am
April 21, 2011


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Hehheh, the only room in the opera house where the K2 didn't light up was the room that made everyone feel uneasy.

This obviously proves that the lack of EMF makes people feel uneasy, nauseas, causes skin irritation, a desire to throw things at TV sets etc so wind up that big Tesla coil and bask in the glow of health giving high EMF!  Cool :-P

OD'd on EMF

9:23 am
April 21, 2011


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LOL, I know, that was just priceless.  So much for consistency…or so much for ol' DiCarlo's stories.  I think we have a little from Column A and a little from Column B in this case.  Well, we DO have these therapeutic Radon Mines back where I used to live.

You're exactly right…the lack of EMF was making me exhibit ALL those signs last night Laugh

I also like how the building went from having "no power" to "little or no power"  Rennovation in a building with no juice?  I did see a number of work lights hanging from various places, fortunately they run on the residual power from lightning storms in Argentina.

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9:14 am
April 23, 2011


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Nosfer said:

I also like how the building went from having "no power" to "little or no power"  Rennovation in a building with no juice?  I did see a number of work lights hanging from various places, fortunately they run on the residual power from lightning storms in Argentina.


 

That was awesome Nosfer! I almost spit out my coffee!

 

The fact that the 1st purple heart was given at the Opera House was probably the tie in with the Soldier's house. 

I re-watched the footage of both scenes because I couldn't believe they were be that stupid in this day and age and show the exact same footage, but Jay just utters the same 100% phrase twice: going into the master bedroom the 1st time and the kids playroom the 2nd time.  You can see the fan chain from the children's room and see the laser grid the 2nd time around, which were both not present in the master bedroom scene.  The scenes are definitely different. He just needs to come up with a different phrase. I think it seems like the same footage because there was way too much editing done the first time around. It was REALLY over done.

They do show that they looked at the attic entrance, but didn't think to open it up and shine a flashlight in there or anything. What was the point of even looking for it if you weren't going to go in there and see if there was any critter moving around? I guess they felt it was too small for either of them to fit through.

10:33 am
April 23, 2011


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Buffy said:

The fact that the 1st purple heart was given at the Opera House was probably the tie in with the Soldier's house. 

I re-watched the footage of both scenes because I couldn't believe they were be that stupid in this day and age and show the exact same footage, but Jay just utters the same 100% phrase twice: going into the master bedroom the 1st time and the kids playroom the 2nd time.  You can see the fan chain from the children's room and see the laser grid the 2nd time around, which were both not present in the master bedroom scene.  The scenes are definitely different. 


 

Given how they were playing up the "helping someone defending this country" I am thinking that the "Soldier" refers to the woman's husband in the second episode…even though it wasn't HIS story.

The scene itself isn't repeated per se, but they reuse the dialogue to make it look like they are chasing two different thumps in two different rooms.  It's more than just Jason's "100%" line. I replayed the scene where they show Master Bedroom and then then second where they show the Nursery.

Master Bedroom starts out about 9:05 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..V2oHm5PS_s

Grant: We thought we heard you, don't be afraid
Grant: What was that
Jason: …'s from in here
Grant: …was that
Jason: I don't know but it was a thump was in here.
Jason: I can be 100% sure of that

 

Start at 01:59 here for Nursery: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..JwbOF6aNm8

Grant: What was that?
Grant: We thought we heard you, don't be afraid.
Jason: The thump was in here.  
Jason: I can be 100% sure of that.

What they are doing is dubbing in dialogue on top of B-Roll footage.  The "…" in the Master Bedroom scene and Jason's "I don't know but it was a thump was in here" is a very poor stringing together of two different lines.  The sequence of dialoge isn't exact, but the sentences are the same, sometimes in different order but this was a really botched repeated editing.

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11:06 am
April 23, 2011


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Oh, and her line "Jason and Grant answered all my questions, I'll be able to explain to my kids what's going on and then when my husband DOES leave and go to training I won't feel as scared as I was"

This doesn't sound like something someone would say about someone who has just COME BACK from Afghanistan does it?

Another B-Roll example…kid's room, look at the placement of the drum on the floor between shots, sometimes next to a scooter, sometimes not.

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8:56 pm
April 23, 2011


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RE: B roll footage. Where the Pilgrim crew go in either before or after J&G and shoot the same scenes.

Can anyone here think of a time when B roll footage has captured supposed paranormal activity? Me neither. Why not? These places are supposed to be haunted. Why should Casper give a rats if it's a pilgrim cameraman or J&G? Do the ghosts only appear on cue for J&G then?

We've seen the pilgrim crew get spooked when they are with the GH team, but never to my memory when on their own shooting B roll footage. Surely Pilgrim would share a clock floating through mid air should it capture something like that on B roll?

OD'd on EMF

9:57 pm
April 23, 2011


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Learjet asks:

Why should Casper give a rats if it's a pilgrim cameraman or J&G?

I suspect it's a result of the Paranormal Union's (PU's) contract regulations.Wink

 

10:09 pm
April 23, 2011


Learjet

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LOL. Smile

OD'd on EMF

9:01 am
April 24, 2011


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Nosfer said:

The scene itself isn't repeated per se, but they reuse the dialogue to make it look like they are chasing two different thumps in two different rooms.  It's more than just Jason's "100%" line. I replayed the scene where they show Master Bedroom and then then second where they show the Nursery.


What they are doing is dubbing in dialogue on top of B-Roll footage.  The "…" in the Master Bedroom scene and Jason's "I don't know but it was a thump was in here" is a very poor stringing together of two different lines.  The sequence of dialoge isn't exact, but the sentences are the same, sometimes in different order but this was a really botched repeated editing.


 

Gee get so technical on me Nosfer! Smile Just kidding! I understand now what you meant.  I just rewatched the episodes via my On Demand so no real time stamps to refer to as on youtube. I remember in watching it in "real time" I thought the same thing about the lines, but I guess I fell for the old "dub over B footage" trick.  Sneaky bastages! 

They used to essentially tell people "things to think about next time" after their mediocre ghost hunting job, but now they HAVE to find something. I don't recall any of these people saying that the ghosts are 24/7.

10:01 am
April 24, 2011


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The film crew doesn't ever get anything that we know of when filming the B-Roll, but these things don't happen on cue, it's not like Jason and Grant see things every time they go through a pla…oh, waitaminute! Laugh

Yes, client reports X, Y, and Z happens occasionally.  GH comes in and on that one particular night, they experience the same things.  I'd like to know, each time, what the frequency of incidents is that the homeowner or client experiences.  If it were such that this team can come in on a random night and get something, then set up shop there the next night and let's solve this haunting thing once and for all…but then there would of course be no impetus to continue the show and make money if they did that.

 

Now, the "100%" scenes:

This is nothing less than fabricating evidence.  (if I could have made the text pulse with an eerie light, I'd have done that, too)  Here we have proof of fakery.  We are led to believe that they heard two sets of thumps when they only heard one (or probably NONE!)  This is along the lines of the Stanley GHA episode where they REPEATED the flashlight scene to make it look like they got another response from the "ghost" (when in fact they were getting no responses)
 

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