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1:20 pm March 11, 2011
| Oubliette
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Jack F. said:
I think put simply, TAPS are common plumbers/people, and lack any significant intelligence. For instance, the episode where tango forgot the mouse to the computer, and said that he would be unable to operate or record any footage that evening.
Despite that he borrowed one from the residence owner, thereby fixing the problem of inability mouse click, he could have easily used the keyboard if he had the slightest bit of computer knowledge, which I personally would expect from someone operating a multi-DVR central station. Arrow keys for movement, tab key for sub-item selection, space bar for toggle, return for left click, context button for right click menu… it's all there, and certainly the most basic of knowledge of a computer.
They are completely incompetent, and though that could explain the inconsistencies in evidence, I find it hard to believe that such a consistency of inconsistency could be attainable by complete idiots.. perhaps I give the unintelligent too much credit?
Personally, my opinion is that clearly a producer and set of editors are behind the curtain, pulling the strings. It is the key that matches the lock, so to speak.
Even if this episode, 07e03, is infact recorded without the producer's team, there are still editors and a producer, the one's that slap the cheesy music in background muting all potential audio from being heard properly by audience. Honestly… Complete silence with the evidence they find would scare me turd-less, so they fail not only one-fold but two. SO Frustrating…
Edit #5, last one:: lot's of typos sorry. First post here, i just had to speak out… am so fed up with the ghost hunters "charade", for lack of better description.
Your whole post is great, but something you said especially stands out.
Jason and Grant's attitudes and procedures are almost the antithesis of scientists. Neither of them seems to know anything about scientific research and in fact IMO they have an actual disdain for it. For years, I seem to have noticed that Jason in particular has something against people who have a higher education than what he has attained. In other words, college grads or formal tech training and similar members often suffered from his barbs and eventually ended up getting booted.
Of course, higher education is not necessary in a field that has no parameters and no specified methodology and I don't want to imply that anyone without a degree doesn't cut it. I'm only referring to my own theory about noticing this about GH-your mention of them being ordinary plumbers who just happened to make it big time is spot on. And it shows.
And my question remains: IF they were truly into finding evidence, why don't they submit what they have managed to catch to outside audio/visual specialists who have no particular interest in the paranormal? Getting experts' opinions would go a long way towards validating what they have found. And it wouldn't automatically mean that, say, a video can be debunked by someone working in that profession. There have been many instances where no logical explanation has been found–doesn't mean it's paranormal but would lend credibility both to them and their evidence. But all these years and they still refuse to share their supposed evidence. No wonder so many find them to be a joke and contribute absolutely nothing to the study of the unknown.
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If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
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1:34 pm March 11, 2011
| Nosfer
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Oubliette said:
-your mention of them being ordinary plumbers who just happened to make it big time is spot on.
Well, except for the plumber part 
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3:37 pm March 16, 2011
| CrowTRobot
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Just got the chance to see this episode.
Nosfer, good point about the lock. At first, I thought it was moving as the camera panned, but the replays didn't show imovement without Adam's hand in the picture. But what I don't get is…why didn't Adam or Amy open the freakin' door – after all, it was unlocked.
It's good to see Steve and Tango have dropped the comedy routine for a more serious approach.
Oubliette, it does seem that Jason has a problem working with higher educated people. Don't know why; some of the dumbest people on the planet have degrees.
Jason trotted out the ol "80% of claims are not paranormal" stat…….How lucky we are that the 20% happen to show up when they're filming.
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12:55 am March 18, 2011
| Revenant
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Is this the episode in which they find some hair and have it tested and it turns out to be rope? I'm trying to play catch-up and these shows seem to be blending together to me. And if not…which episode was that?
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8:24 pm March 18, 2011
| Learjet
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Revenant said:
Is this the episode in which they find some hair and have it tested and it turns out to be rope?
Yep, this is the one.
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2:59 am March 19, 2011
| Revenant
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Thanks Learjet. I wanted to look at that whole aspect. Just really weird…
During the walk-though, the owner of the house tells J&G about finding a braid of hair under the floorboards. Grant pipes up "We need to find out if it's human hair and how old and all that and get it tested." He makes it sound very important. As if, you know…it matters for whatever reason. I'm unaware of braids of human hair under floorboards being symbolic of anything. I know hair was used in combination with many other things in Europe for various spells/hexes/whatever else attributed to witchcraft…nothing to do with ghosts. But by itself…I've got nothing.
So Amy takes the hair sample to the Rhode Island State Crime Lab to confirm that it is indeed human hair. Because if it is…and I qoute: "If it is, it could be the source of the paranormal activity that the family's been experiencing." I did that Scooby-Doo double-take when she said that…ruh roh…
Amy gets to throw on the snazzy lab coat and pretend to "do science." You know…as in "I'm in a lab and doin' science." Great…good for you. Anyway…turns out the evil braid of hair is actually a rope. In which Amy says: "Turns out it's not hair, it's actually a piece of rope. So I think this is going to be something that we can bring to the family and we'll definitely give them peace of mind." Um…what?
Finally, during the Reveal, J&G are kind enough to let the home-owner know that the object isn't hair, it's only rope. And man…the home-owner is relieved! Because…well…I don't really know why.
Ok…I still don't understand the dire paranormal threat involving a braid of hair. I also don't understand that when the braid of hair is proven to be a rope…why is it suddenly NOT possibly the "source of the paranormal activity?" By their own standard, objects can retain "whatever link to the past" that ghosts need to do their thing. Case in point is all the objects from the Titantic at that museum a couple of seasons ago. Can rope not be as scary and threatening as a braid of hair? Actually…rope has been used to torture, strangle and out-right murder people. Rope should be scarier.
So…this just wasn't me, right? Anyone else out there thinking this whole hair thing was a bit…wonky?
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9:49 am March 19, 2011
| Learjet
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Hair is definitely more scary than rope because ….um…. it was once attached to a human. Humans and parts thereof make better ghosts than rope. Yeah that's it.
Amy has been jumping the gun morer and morer lately, as was seen in the boat part of this episode with EMF that wasn't there. If she keeps doing this we may have to include her in the drinking game!
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