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S06E17: Grammar School Ghosts

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1:47 am
October 15, 2010


Mugs

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Part Two: continued from my previous [extra long, sorry Innocent] post. Note for simplicity: BSR = Boys' shower room…PB/PBs = Paint booth/boothes…SS = shower stalls.

1] J/G go into the BSR after the two pop-type sounds occur – after Jay turned off the lights - to look for the source of same. While in there – believe it was after J's OTF saying they looked 'everywhere' but couldn't find the source – there's the scene where they are standing beside a PB and J's saying 'look at this piece of glass' [or something akin] as he's looking down at whatever he's holding – we can't see it b/c G's arm is obscuring the view.

Notice that G is smiling but he's not looking at what J has, he's looking directly ahead in front of himself at the pillar-like end of the PB….hanging on it is what looks like a paint gun [spray/air brush type], it appears to be connected to a power switch box [IDK if that's the right term] that has a black lever-type switch – this box is directly above the gun – there's a power line/cable going out the top of it and another cable or hose running down alongside that is going past the box and is possibly attached to the gun. When the shot first switched to J/G standing at the PB, you see G's right arm is up and his hand is near that power/switch box, he's just starting to lower his arm…if you can go slo mo or frame by frame – starting just before it switches to this scene so as J is finishing his OTF – because we just get a glimpse of this so it's hard to see/catch…it appears that Grant may have flipped that switch, his middle finger – had his FL in this hand – was on that lever switch right before we see his arm dropping. It took a few tries but I finally did manage to pause on the frame, where there's no doubt that his finger is on that switch, and took a screen cap of it. 

It's too bad we didn't get to see just a second or two more at the start of this scene, but based on this he did have his finger on the switch – which was in the down position when he pulled his hand away – and you have to ask why? Did he just switch the power on or off, if so why?  It would seem that switch has something to do with the paint gun, was it the switch to an air compressor perhaps? Also note that at the nozzle end of the gun there's a clear plastic cap, but it's not a little cap it's a cup-sized cap that covers more than just the nozzle tip part. Also note during the tour, when they are standing listening to Alixandria tell the claims, Britt is standing right beside another paint gun – this one didn't have the plastic cup type cap over its nozzle, can see a black cord hanging below the gun as well – with a switch box thing above it…and look behind Britt/Grant you can see at least 2 possibly 3 more guns hanging at the end of the PBs. Looked as if there was one gun shared between 2 PBs as it's hanging between 2 and is at every second divider pillar end part [if that makes sense].

Why would there still be that many guns – looked in good shape – and what seems to be power cords coming off them etc, if those PBs were no longer in use? Actually based on some info I've found regarding the previous owner and current owner, I'd say odds are good those guns are not just hanging there for show.

When I heard the pop-like noise followed by what sounded like a small object hitting the floor – as J/G were sitting in the BSR – just before the alleged spark….those two sounds reminded me of the many plastic corks I've seen/heard being popped off champagne bottles at New Years Eve bashes I've been to over the years, the 'pop' of the cork then the plastic cork/cap landing on a tiled or wood floor sound. But when I went back to re-watch some of these scenes and noticed the paint guns and G's finger on that switch etc, I wondered if what we heard was one of those plastic cup ends 'popping' off of a paint gun? Did J/G discover one on the floor after the first pops were heard? Did someone inadvertently flip the switch on a box above a paint gun thinking it was a light switch when in fact it was the compressor switch, left that switch on when they went to look for the light switch…and pressure built up enough to pop the plastic cup end off? Did J/G wonder something akin or did the cap pop fairly soon afterwards, if not within a couple of seconds of the switch being turned on, and whoever it happened to alerted them to that fact….they then decided to try and replicate it, hence leaving a light on in that room so they could not only pause at the doorway and turn it off but it signaled someone who was out of view by a PB to flip the switch above a gun that had a plastic cap?

OR, if there is/was an electrical issue in that room did G and whoever else may have played with a switch or two somehow cause something to eventually spark/pop?

2] Further to the paint guns. I couldn't really hear the loud noise J/G heard – when by the PB and G said 'what is going on' – actually I thought a couple other little pop-like noises heard is what they were referring to. But when Amy played it for Britt during Analysis and it was loud and not at all like a popping sound, that noise had initially made me think of an arcade as it was akin to the noise one of those gun/shooting type games make….but it also reminded me of something else that I couldn't quite put my finger on, until I took another look/listen at things and noticed the paint guns. That noise sounded a tad different when played at Reveal, had more of IDK a deeper tone so less arcade-like if you will and there was a bit of an echo there…did someone fire off a paint gun in a booth, or aim it into a metal garbage can just in case some paint came out of it?

3] When J/G hear that louder noise and dart off to go look for it, they didn't leave the BSR and head out into the hallway, they went into that back room area – doorway next to where the DVR cam [metal rack] was. Cam guy follows them, watch that clip again as you see the IR light of the DVR cam goes off, Jay is then obscuring the view briefly but when he steps aside we see it's on again…and is on as J/G/cam guy walk past the cam to go into that back room, and G called the others on the walkie to see if they made the noise.

4] J/G are now sitting in the BSR, Britt calls G on the walkie and G says 'go ahead' and then the pop and alleged spark occur. Notice that after G said 'go ahead' Britt didn't say anything, should we not have heard Britt saying what he was calling G for? Every other time they've used the walkie and someone says 'go ahead' or 'go for Amy or Steve etc', the other person starts talking right away, so why not this time? Well, perhaps Britt did say something because if you crank the volume and listen close, after G reacts to the pop the cam pans to Jay [can just see a wee bit of G, his walkie at his mouth]…Jay looks over at G and you faintly but clearly hear 'NO' [sounds like G whispering] and then what to me sounds like 'wait a minute' or 'give it a minute'.

Right after Jay says to G 'did you see that' [or something like it sorry forgot to write that down], almost as if he was trying to interrupt or cover so G wouldn't be heard. And I'm not sure but there seemed to be a second even fainter voice but I'm not sure, if so was that Britt? So, IF Grant did say that to Britt why did he do it so quietly, he just had this big activity occur that made him jump and then he very quietly whispers into his walkie….but then as J/G start walking toward the DVR cam G in an easily heard normal tone of voice [walkie to mouth] G tells Britt that 'he has to call him back because they just had some activity happen'….huh, wouldn't you say that right after it happened, while still sitting there and not 30 seconds or a minute later when walking towards the area where you saw sparks? What was Britt just sitting there waiting for G to respond to him [assuming he did say at least a word or two after G said 'go ahead', even though we heard nothing]…why didn't he say 'hey G you still there' or 'what's going on' or something?

Was Britt at CC watching J/G on the monitor – thus knew to call G right at that moment so G could have his hands busy and act all surprised? Was he turning the DVR cam IR light on/off or switching it from IR to visible light mode….maybe there was too much glare so to try and reduce same while showing J/G walking towards that cam [both times they did] Britt or whoever [team or crew] fiddled with the cam at CC hence the light going off/on…or was it done for some other reason? It's also possible there was a loose wire or cable with that cam and it was just doing that by itself, if so did no one notice an issue during LO – assuming someone did monitor CC at least for part of the time, or sat there during a break? And why didn't anyone notice the light in the BSR was still on after going LO, didn't a single team or crew member look at the DVR cams on the monitor at CC even once [if so they would've seen the light was still on]?  

Sorry this is also getting really long, and it's really late so I'll apologize in advance if I've been rambling too much or part or most lol of what I've noted doesn't make much sense….if not please let me know so I can clarify, I likely should have waited to do this after I've had at least a few hours sleep. I'll leave it at that for now, and simply end by saying there's a lot of things that don't quite add up, some things that are more than just a little suspect and given TAPS' history [all we've seen from these clowns since S1] well that alone speaks volumes and is reason enough to consider any/all possible ways they could have created those sounds in addition to the mundane/natural possibilties that didn't involve them….and sorry since we didn't see any sparks much less an explosion as Jay referred to it as, I have no reason to believe it occurred as I simply will not just take their word for it. 

Oh if anyone would like me to post some info and links regarding the history of this locale ownership wise etc, let me know I'd be happy to provide same. Smile 

   

8:45 am
October 16, 2010


Leslie

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posts 157

Wow, that's a lot to read!Laughing

The thing about compressors is that they are usually noisy-sometimes very noisy-so I'm not too sure if one could be used in this situation.

Good catch on Grants hand on the 'switch'. I did not notice that before. I can see what Jason is holding, it is just an old glass bottle that he puts back on the shelf.

1:58 pm
October 16, 2010


Mugs

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posts 30

Hi Leslie, sorry again for the mega long post. Turned out to be even longer than I thought it'd be, in hindsight I should have split that one up. Had I joined the discussion off the hop it would've been said over a number of posts, I guess trying to catch up by doing it all in a couple of posts wasn't such a good idea. There's other threads I'd like to catch up on as well but I'll be sure to approach it in more of a piece-meal [so to speak] way. I do appreciate that you took the time to read it [or at least skim through it LOL]. Smile

Good point regarding the compressor being noisy, I did actually consider that as I know they can be quite loud. However I also considered that when the former owner had the PBs designed/installed, he may have either had a separate enclosed closet-type room built for the compressor – if not also the paint tubs/pails – or put it/them in an adjoining room and had the lines run from there. You can see the power rods/cords and tubing going up towards the ceiling [at each PB station that had a gun/power box etc at the end of it], and when we were shown the inside of a booth or two I didn't see a compressor or paint pails [or lines/tubes inside the booth be it on the side walls or hanging under the table etc] to indicate each booth had its own unit or did at one time….so it appears there was/is a main compressor that all the stations are linked to [or possibly a few units], but the location of same is separate from the PBs.

Also, since this was a [former] shower room and they didn't gut it – removing all the stalls and tiles/bricks etc – but instead had just constructed the PBs within the existing structures, maintaining the same general lay-out by the looks of things, odds are that room still had the echo-factor going on…common to larger shower rooms like this. It would get awful loud in there if you had several paint guns in operation on top of the air compressor noise etc. I could be wrong, but I could see why they'd want to reduce the noise level at least somewhat by having the compressor unit/s in some type of smaller enclosed area and running the lines from there. And of course with the wonders of editing & sound-mixing etc, I would think it'd be possible to extract a background noise [compressor or A/C unit or boiler noise etc] if need be during post-production.

Compressor or not you still have to ask what that switch was for, why Grant had his finger on the power switch, and what if anything his flipping it did – be it flipping it on or off or doing an on/off thing?  Actually come to think of it, right after G dropped his arm he looked down at the piece of glass Jay had and literally within a few seconds [if that] the loud noise occurred – it didn't sound overly loud during LO but when the audio recording of it was played at Analysis & Reveal it was really loud. J/G both turned to look towards that back room that is off the BSR – doorway beside the DVR cam – and then went there to look for the source of the noise [seems it came from that direction]….IF there was something like an air compressor in that back room, and IF G just flipped the power on or did an on pause a few seconds then turned it off [we only saw a glimpse of his hand on the switch so he may have done the latter and we just saw the tail end of it] it's possible that loud noise was indeed the compressor. 

I questioned why that noise was so much louder in the recording, is it because someone [Britt/Joe for e.g. as they were down there somewhere at the time, hence Britt asking G if he/J were going to head upstairs to check things out or if he/they wanted B/Joe to do it] was in that back room with an audio recorder – or at least really close to it, closer than J/G were? We have an air compressor - have used with a paint gun actually to do part of the exterior of our home – and when turning it on cold it takes a few seconds before the noise level gets up there; as the pressure builds. So perhaps that was the same type of thing here?

Yikes this is getting long too, so I'll leave it at that as some food for thought.      

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