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S06E14: A Shot in the Dark

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6:38 am
September 15, 2010


Nosfer

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I'll take a shot in the dark at this one. We'll hear more footsteps (or they will), have more what was thats, and listen to more didya see thats.

"The team investigates the Colonial Inn which housed wounded and dying soldiers during the revolutionary war."

Even though Jason has twitted about going back to do more of the residential investigations, it doesn't look like it will be this episode, or even this season from the line up.

Looks like another Britt and KJ episode…I'm beginning to miss Steve's and Tango's flair. Almost! lol

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7:03 am
September 15, 2010


HollyDolly

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Oh course, that's a natural and a given . Funny Jason mentions going back to doing more of the residential investigations.I think even on the TAPS18 people have mentioned they wish GH would go back to it's roots and do homes like they used to.Now I don't mind them doing places like Waverly Hill,Winchester Mansion or some of the old historical sites that have stories of ghosts and have had for many years.

I know of a couple here in Texas that would be interesting and are historical, and no not the Alamo.That will never happen.But I think viewers miss the human element of it.Everyday people have hauntings too,and they originally were founded to help people to understand and deal with their hauntings.Which is funny,because they advise people to take back their home ,etc.etc. and yet in a Washington state episode they had an Episcopal woman priest call them in about a haunting in her home.That episode puzzled me ,why because she is a minister of the Lord.You have the Big Man upstairs and His son to call for help, and she calls on the Scooby Doo team with Shaggy and Scooby,aka Steve and Tango.I did however find the mysterious burnt footprint interesting on the floor in that episode.

Maybe Jason is getting tired of all the commercial place investigations.He and Grant did seem to enjoy the one at the Slater Mill up in their area .However I think Jason may feel some of these places just want to ride the GH gravy train by saying GH did an investigation there.

11:14 am
September 15, 2010


Learjet

Australia

Lead Investigator

posts 1122

Yeah Britt and KJ are no Steve and Tango. They just don't have the same on air charisma. Britt and KJ are as dry as eating a packet of SAO biscuits without a drink. Then again, Steve and Tango don't  have any charisma in GHA. They were at their best playing the fool in GH.

But wait, what do I care? This show is supposed to be about the ghosts. Or is it? Probably not since the camera is mostly pointed at the investigators.

OD'd on EMF

11:47 am
September 15, 2010


Patrick

Investigator

posts 190

Just tell me when Sam and Dean are back.  I see more real investigating on Supernatural than I do on GH.

1:35 pm
September 15, 2010


Nosfer

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Patrick said:

Just tell me when Sam and Dean are back.  I see more real investigating on Supernatural than I do on GH.


They were last seen at Deadman's Curve….OH, you said SAM and Dean, not Jan and Dean….

@Learjet, you are correct, they strayed from their element on GHA, the serious, no-nonsense, instructor types they are not.

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11:49 pm
September 15, 2010


Revenant

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posts 1393

Britt and the door…

First and foremost, I cannot properly convey how unimpressed I am when a menial object, like a door, does what it is designed to do…like open or close.  Doors have these things called "hinges."  They allow the door to swing.  You rarely see free-standing doors on hinges in a Magicians show.  Why?  Because most people get that a door can swing open or closed.  The same people can probably come up with many reasons why a door would swing closed "seemingly" on it's own.  Unfortunately, for us, none of these people wear TAPS gear and walk around in the dark.  Which leads me to my second observation…

We have had long discussions on why TAPS (or the rest of the paranormal shows) do their investigations in the dark.  The most agreed upon answer is that it simply makes for good TV.  It creates tension, spookiness, and just an overall "look."  Ok.  Fine.  Whatever.  But…if you are in the dark and a door seemingly moves on it's own and after you clean yourself because obviously this is a VERY scary event…why would you start "debunking" it in the dark?

Consider if something like that happened to you.  Even if you had a flashlight in one hand and a video camera with night vision in the other hand…you'd still put one of them down and turn on the light.  You'd want to see that door closely.  You would check that floor for pressure points that would allow that door to move.

In this scenario, if, like Britt, you were standing outside the radius of the door (BOTH times the door moved)…then jumping up and down WITHIN the radius of the door probably isn't very useful, is it?  And if you were jumping up and down by the door (which you weren't doing at the time…but anyway…)…wouldn't you want to watch both the floor and door for any sort of weird movement?

And my absolute favorite part?  Near the end of the review, Grant, with that dead-pan, empty look of his says "These things happened to us and we can't explain them."  As if no one can possibly solve anything that supposedly had happened during the night and therefore one must strongly consider the paranormal for answers.  If one cannot solve 5+3= ?, that doesn't mean that there isn't an answer.  It means that you aren't really trying all that hard to solve the problem…or…you need to get in touch with the closest 5th grader… Frown 

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7:12 am
September 16, 2010


blinddog

Special Agent Zombie Elimination Agency

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posts 857

Not to go off topic. Well, I am.

Wonder how often they must rotate cameramen?
I'm sure that after a few episodes that they must suffer 'Groundhog Day' syndrome.

Double tap to the head. Don't become Undead.

4:26 pm
September 16, 2010


Liz M

NY

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About that door…..  Did you notice that Britt actually looked behind him as the door was closing?  Is it so dark that they couldn't see anything?  Or was he preparing himself to be startled?  Although I must say, he did act as if he was genuinely startled (I seriously doubt they are that good at acting).   I wonder if he could hear something happening.  Then again, KJ asks the ghost to close the bathroom door specifically and then Britt amends it to any door – and then the room door closes again.  Curious.

6:00 pm
September 16, 2010


Nosfer

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I think Britt is standing well within the swing radius the second time.

I think the most disappointing thing is the nonsense of "going home" after it happens. "Make the door close and we'll leave" What kind of Stupid-@#$% investigating is that?

Again we don't see the whole door on their UV/Thermal/etc setup

That in itself speaks volumes. A Britt-List might be in order

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6:33 pm
September 16, 2010


Realdeal

Tx

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Did ayone else notice all the different positions of the chair during the different investigations of the room? When Amy and Kris are in the room, it looks like the chair is postioned to keep the door open, then another time it is almost a foot away from the door. The most telling shot of how easy the door closes on its own is when Jason and Grant are leaving the room, the door is closing on Grant as he follows Jason out of the room and he has to catch it to to get out. And then we have the good ole "Stupid Flashlight Trick".  Why do I watch this crap?   

9:21 pm
September 16, 2010


Learjet

Australia

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posts 1122

Realdeal said:

… The most telling shot of how easy the door closes on its own is when Jason and Grant are leaving the room, the door is closing on Grant as he follows Jason out of the room and he has to catch it to to get out…


I didn't notice this until you pointed it out. Good observation! I tend to miss this sort of stuff. Well, I reckon that settles the "door closing trick". http://yfrog.com/n1ghdoorj

We are getting quite a collection. Lemme see. Now we have….

The stupid flashlight trick.

The stupid EMF meter trick.

The stupid door moving trick. (Covers opening and closing)

OD'd on EMF

8:46 am
September 17, 2010


Learjet

Australia

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posts 1122

Just reading posts over at the TAPS forums, this episode has gone down like a lead balloon even with the true believers over the door-gate controversy.

OD'd on EMF

9:08 am
September 17, 2010


Nosfer

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Britt was just too animated. And that casual resting arms on the door frame then on dresser or sill as it's closing was just too "I'm acting like I'm just standing here" to me.

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9:27 am
September 17, 2010


Revenant

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posts 1393

Nosfer said: "I think Britt is standing well within the swing radius the second time."

Hmmm….I only saw this episode once.  I thought the second time Britt was standing outside the room, just in front of the doorway (thus outside of the swing radius).  The door begins to move and only then does Britt take a step forward into the swing radius and walks into the already moving door.

If anyone is checking out this door footage, can someone either confirm that or straighten me out.  I thought the door was already moving by the time he crossed the threshold of the door.

Learjet said: "Just reading posts over at the TAPS forums, this episode has gone down like a lead balloon even with the true believers over the door-gate controversy."

Wow, that's kind of interesting.  I also wonder if Britt is falling out of favor with the "true believers."  If so, is he really the best choice as a replacement for Robb on GHI (IF Robb does indeed step down/gets booted…)? 

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9:34 am
September 17, 2010


Nosfer

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He appears to be straddling the threshold when it starts to swing, the left side of his body and presumably his left foot are in Room 24. He may not even actually leave Room 24 completely.

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9:57 am
September 17, 2010


Revenant

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posts 1393

Ok, thanks.  I couldn't remember it that clearly.  So much weirdness going on, I felt like I was watching a magic show and I was trying to look at where I'm not supposed to.  Kind of like when you said Britt was too animated.  It was hard to focus on just one aspect of the weirdness…

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10:21 am
September 17, 2010


Nosfer

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I've only really looked at the door-closing scene since I was away Wed and Thu, I still need to watch the rest of this thing! I understand there is a SFT to look forward to, too :( The animated jumping looked almost like redirection to me…make a big scene so that it draws attention and you only "just notice" the door doing it's thing.

I think there may be a point of no return on that door, it's fine at a certain place fully against the wall (good carpet?) but once it moves out a little ways, it will eventually start to swing.

An SDT if you will…get it at the tipping point and then wait and, like the flashlight, it will eventually perform for you. Just a thought….

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10:58 am
September 17, 2010


Learjet

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Where is Kris Gartland when we need her? I remember on one old GH episode where she brought along a pocket level to check some steps I think it was. Found they were crooked. This is the only time I ever saw the level used.

A basic piece of equipment that no one seems to carry. Might have been useful on the door or the floor.

OD'd on EMF

11:03 am
September 17, 2010


Nosfer

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Learjet said:

Where is Kris Gartland when we need her? I remember on one old GH episode where she brought along a pocket level to check some steps I think it was. Found they were crooked. This is the only time I ever saw the level used.

A basic piece of equipment that no one seems to carry. Might have been useful on the door or the floor.


Yeah, that pocket level that she just happened to be carrying…never to be seen again. Never to be included in their kit except for that one case. And ya wonder why my BS detector is on a hair-trigger lol

I think the only other time I've seen an investigator jump like that was when Steve saw an arachnid. Or possibly one of the times when J&G very professionally decided to jump out of the dark and scare another team.

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