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12:22 pm
November 11, 2009
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Nosfer
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Starting at 4/3/2/1 I guess that makes it an extra three episodes compared to a regular Wednesday:
Speaking with the Dead
Ghosts of the Sunshine State
Hometown Haunts
Betsy Ross House
Star Island
and the new one New Hampshire Gothic
This last one could be interesting as there was apparently some "controversy" about the filming of it:
http://www.entities-r-us.com/2009/08/30/taps-gets-cold-shoulder/
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3:35 pm
November 11, 2009
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darkeyes
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Reading the comments posted on the article, it should be an interesting episode. I’m sure if any questionable evidence is presented the locals will be all over it. It’s also sounding like GH is becoming more of an advertising agency now for haunted tourist traps than an investigative team.
And then we’re treated to GH Academy…joy!
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8:39 pm
November 11, 2009
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darkeyes
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Well, I have to say that moving chain was a little odd. Unless there were strings attached I’m not sure how it would move like that. Hmmmmm.
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10:11 pm
November 11, 2009
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HipKat
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I didn't watch Gothic NH yet, so I'm not reading gthe above posts, but Star Island….
I swear, these are the two least scientific investigators….
If the FLIR caught the door, which turned out to be opening, and then they dismissed it and walked away…
Well, if the door also closed, on it's own supposedly, wouldn't the FLIR have caught that, too?
And as soon as I saw the FLIR hit in the Castle, I said outload "That's a racoon." Maybe I just have more experience out in the woods than Jay and Grant. BTW, when did they stop wearing TAPS gear?
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10:17 pm
November 11, 2009
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darkeyes said:
Well, I have to say that moving chain was a little odd. Unless there were strings attached I’m not sure how it would move like that. Hmmmmm.
Right before teh chain moves, you can see a white shirt pass in a corner of the shelving unit, one of the female investigator. This could have caused the wooden floors to shift, causing the pipe to vibrate, which in turns causes the chain to move.
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8:07 am
November 12, 2009
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dconlly said:
darkeyes said:
Well, I have to say that moving chain was a little odd. Unless there were strings attached I’m not sure how it would move like that. Hmmmmm.
Right before teh chain moves, you can see a white shirt pass in a corner of the shelving unit, one of the female investigator. This could have caused the wooden floors to shift, causing the pipe to vibrate, which in turns causes the chain to move.
Not the way the chain moved. I said the same thing at first. I kept yelling, WHAT ABOUT THE SOUND GUY?
Anyway, I just can't trust them anymore. I can picture grant hiding with string in that room.
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8:36 am
November 12, 2009
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Especially given how the door incident was debunked by stepping on the floor boards. I would have liked to seem them try to recreate the chain incident too. It could be that the chain was a bit precarious and the vibration caused as the cameraman walked into the next room was enough to upset the balance and move the chain and then also the pole and pitchfork. Could have. I can't say whether it was or was not paranormal based upon what I see at the moment, but why oh why didn't they try to recreate it?
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9:36 am
November 12, 2009
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BrendaLee
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As I've said to my hubby, should any of these shows ever "catch" something truly paranormal – will we know?
I commented immediately that it was the girls for a change, but it simply looked like gravity at work to me. The fact that it was the chain that moved first was interesting, but still I wondered at the lack of debunking. Where were the big guns when it came time to debunk that? Had they already retired for the night?
What about going back in the daytime to test out ways the chain could have moved normally? Remember the first seasons when they would test theories? Or was the apparent controversy at their arrival a hindering factor in the time they had to investigate? (excuses, excuses)
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2:36 pm
November 12, 2009
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Orion
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I think it's mostly likely that the chain just happened to untwist at that point in time, or perhaps egged on by the girls walking past it.
That's what it appeared like to me – the chain didn't just move, but that they were previously twisted slightly, one around the other. I think that just got undone, the one side swung back, and then knocked the pitchfork foward. meh..
Overall though, after a previous week of watching completely dubious "evidence" on other ghost related shows which I shall not name here, chain aside, (and even then they didn't proclaim it paranormal) it was refreshing to watch some actual honesty and integrity in action on a paranormal show. GH was the first, and they'll be the last – even if they're not perfect, they're better than the others.
Regarding the thing with the cat, (provided it wasn't a real cat they just missed catching with their FLIR) I just now sort of cooked up a hypothesis regarding animal spectres; partly from watching this episode, and partly from just finishing reading an article over on Dale Kaczmarek's site about animal ghosts.
Dogs, cats, and horses seem to be the most commonly experienced animal phantoms, reportedly anyway, yet we know other animals have equal if not greater intelligence, some of which do spend time around people and civilization. So why don't we see their ghosts more?
This got me to wondering, what if the animal/ghosts aren't really ghosts at all, but [i]poltergeists?[/i] You know, figments of energy created by a human agent. Someone misses their pet cat really badly, they're emotionally distraught over it, and viola, phantom cat starts appearing..
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3:03 pm
November 12, 2009
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StanTheMan
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A few questions: would a ghost (or spirit or whatever) cat drink something it then had to expel? …. if it did would the ghost urine smell? … if it does why don't they smell human urine in all these haunted locations?
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3:24 pm
November 12, 2009
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Nosfer
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They apparently still have a voice box and vocal cords, so why not kidneys and a bladder?
If I recall right, at the "Old Jail" they DID smell it, but the reason given was that it could be left over and wafts out given the right conditions or something like that, been a while since I watched that one.
When Jason described the encounter during this episode (NH Gothic) and started saying that "he got hit in the face with…" I rather unkindly finished the sentence for him. I didn't finish it correctly, but mine was more funny :)
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3:59 pm
November 12, 2009
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MauveHarlet
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StanTheMan said:
A few questions: would a ghost (or spirit or whatever) cat drink something it then had to expel? …. if it did would the ghost urine smell? … if it does why don't they smell human urine in all these haunted locations?
I'm sorry but this was rather chuckleworthy!! Good thinking. I wondered that myself, and just becuase they don't spot anything on the $5,000 FLIR doesn't completely rule out a REAL criter down there.
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4:02 pm
November 12, 2009
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Nosfer
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I can't recall (and don't have the DVR here)…when Jason was "brushed" did he immediately shine his light down, was the FLIR immediately brought to bear?
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4:13 pm
November 12, 2009
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Ghost cats use ghost litter boxes, or bury it in the ghost dirt. Ghost people use ghost toilets of course. Ghost Tomcats that haven't been to the ghost vet, well they just spray everywhere. See, all makes purrfect ghost sense. 
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5:11 pm
November 12, 2009
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BrendaLee
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Seemed like a real cat to me. I heard that purr.
(And why didn't they march downstairs the next day with the client to use their noses and eyes?)
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6:15 pm
November 12, 2009
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Angelayo1970
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Did anyone else catch how, right after they heard the cat purr, Grant said "It wasn't me!" He's awfully touchy these days…I wonder why…? 
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6:19 pm
November 12, 2009
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Great! Now I've got this vision of Grant with spools of string and cats under his jacket :)
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6:22 pm
November 12, 2009
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I heard the 'purr' too. But on replay I thought it sounded more like someone's stomach growling.
(Maybe Grant said "it wasn't me" because it was his stomach.)
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6:25 pm
November 12, 2009
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The 'purr' they played for the client did not sound like a cat to me and I didn't actually hear the purr as it was caught 'live' The 'purr' in the replay seemed more "slow" and growly. Yes, even stomachy.
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