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2:33 pm
March 1, 2009
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The season premiere of GH was filmed in Philadelphia and the surrounding area and will feature the Betsy Ross House and a pre-Revolutionary War house in Glen Mills, PA. The Betsy Ross House has posted a notice of this on the home page of their website. http://www.betsyrosshouse.org.
The South Jersey Ghost Research group (a member of the "TAPS family") states they have investigated there twice and posted their own investigation done on 6/09/06. Here's the link: http://www.southjerseyghostresearch.org/cases4/06032.html.
Looks like more of the same . . . really nothing. Will be interested to see J & G's conclusions. I'm stocking the liquor cabinet!
FYI - Oubliette and those in the tri-state area, both Steve Gonsalves and Brian Harnois are scheduled to be in Cherry Hill for a Monster Mania Con March 13-15 but the exact dates and times were not specified. Neither one were on the initial line up page. Here's the link for the Cherry Hill "guests": http://monstermania.net/MMC_Guests_Cherry.html
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2:43 pm
March 1, 2009
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Nosfer
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And their three, front-page evidence photos are nothing but some very pathetic looking light blemishes, er, sorry, "orbs" I've gotten better "orb" shots outside in the middle of nowhere.
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4:51 pm
March 1, 2009
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Revenant
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Nosfer said:
And their three, front-page evidence photos are nothing but some very pathetic looking light blemishes, er, sorry, "orbs" I've gotten better "orb" shots outside in the middle of nowhere.
Speaking of this, in the past couple of seasons, the GH team don't seem to be taking pictures like they did in the early years (I remember Brian and Steve always blinding each other with the flash). Did they ever give their fans an "official" explanation as to why?
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5:34 pm
March 1, 2009
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Revenant said:
Speaking of this, in the past couple of seasons, the GH team don't seem to be taking pictures like they did in the early years (I remember Brian and Steve always blinding each other with the flash). Did they ever give their fans an "official" explanation as to why?
"One of the theories out there is that ghosts are afraid of sudden flashes of light"
(Not sure, I haven't heard anything…perhaps regular cameras were considered too boring and couldn't compete with the Full Spectrum counterpart. And Barry has a patent pending…)
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1:04 pm
March 2, 2009
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T.A.Sharps
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Yeah I always wondered why we never saw any of those pictures they were always taking. Barry almost always seems to find something with his full spectrum.
And they want to go investigate the Betsy Ross house where apparently the best evidence is dust? Are they running out of things to do?
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1:35 pm
March 2, 2009
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And they almost ALWAYS find something in the hiss of a recorder. Surprised they aren't aware of one of the other theories out there…that matrixing is not just for the eyes but affects the ears as well.
Has anyone put together a list, by episode, tallying the types of evidence and it's quality. What percentage of evidence is Audio…and this can be broken into sounds that were heard during the investigation and hiss, er, EVPS. What percentage is Video? What percentage is "personal"? What pronouncements about a place were made based on those types of evidence? etc
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2:43 pm
March 2, 2009
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One thing I will be watching carefully for will be Steve's actions.
As I've mentioned on other threads, he could very well be "setting up" things to happen as he wanders around touching everything - Found this short video – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6FZWdeACm4
Since the client is saying that " thing's fall off the shelves" that hallway may be a good choice for a stationary cam – now that he knows the register will spring out.
While setting up the cam he pushes the drawer in, but not all the way to latch – a bit of electrical tape to hold it and at some time later it will spring out by itself on camera with noone around.
Instant Ghost !
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1:48 pm
March 3, 2009
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hello all, new here….
i found this sight here about a week ago and in reading thru much of it, i am amazed at many of the observations here coinciding with my own.
a few things that i may have missed or simply weren't discussed already… if 'ghosts' manifest themselves thru the taps crew batterypacks, why doesn't the 'crew carry extra batterypacks, if for no other reason than to provide extra energy for those 'ghosts' wishing to manifest themselves? if this theory were to indeed hold true, then why are the best manifestations, be they sight or sound always found down the end of some fifty longfoot hallway or in other rooms away from any energy sources…. and lastly, in all the abandoned institutional type locations, anyone else notice that these all appear to be local hang-outs, evidenced by the graffiti on the walls and litter strewn about.
i can't wait for the new season to start… ghi has literally put me to sleep on my couch, the last three episodes.
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2:16 pm
March 3, 2009
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Welcome bunyan8!
The battery packs have been discussed on here previously (and there is a discussion not more than a day or two old on it) There's always room for more input to it, though.
I and others have suggested leaving batteries as a trap, even. Or attaching them to recording voltmeters to record the drain and see if it corresponds to a nearby recording EMF detector and recording thermometer. Alas, the brains at TAPS/GH/GHI/Pilgrim/What have You, are incapable of coming up with and employing such ideas :(
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4:28 pm
March 3, 2009
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Nosfer said:
And their three, front-page evidence photos are nothing but some very pathetic looking light blemishes, er, sorry, "orbs" I've gotten better "orb" shots outside in the middle of nowhere.
Pathetic? Blemishes? It's obvious that the place is haunted by the spirits of floating green arrows! 
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Hee hee hee! "Get her!" That was your whole plan, huh, "get her." Very scientific.
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4:41 pm
March 3, 2009
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dr_peter_venkman said:
Pathetic? Blemishes? It's obvious that the place is haunted by the spirits of floating green arrows!
ROFL!
Assuming Robb's blank look and in a monotone: "This is definitely the most impressive evidence to date of arrows having past lives."
(yeah, I know GH is slated to go there rather than GHI, but that fit Robb much better)
Oh, wait, is that a string attached to that second arrow? :)
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9:03 am
March 5, 2009
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Oubliette
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Not…the…blinking….flashlight….again.
GH cannot be serious. To me they have lost all credibility, and it isn't just Collargate. The KII, the Fear Box (or whatever it's called), "ghosts can't lift more than 10 lbs"–need I go on???
They are becoming downright embarrassing and are continually setting back any serious research in this field. But that's entertainment!
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9:20 am
March 5, 2009
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sorry if i'm breaking any threads, but the 2004 armory episode that aired in last nights rerun block raises the questions toward the 'frank incident'. (i see that the archives only extend back to 2007.)
as i saw it, dimly lit of course, frank the sound technician was ambling down the hallway with his mike boom fully extended.
slowwwly his left knee buckled and his left arm was shown to extend behind his back to break the fall that was coming. i can only speculate that the right arm that was still holding the boom mike (probably hardwired to the equipment bag slung over his chest) was thrown back quickly causing the 'chest bag' to suddenly swing upwards, hitting him in the chin.
the fact that frank's glasses and hat remained on his head after this supposedly violent and sudden encounter with a ghostly tyson like entity, makes this whole scene suspect. when someone gets 'floored', both feet fly out and anything loosely attached to the head (ie; glasses, hat, mouthpiece etc) flies off.
as for his 'seemingly' genuine reaction…. he could've been nothing more than a stumblebum predisposed to strong beliefs in ghosts or a 'pilgrim' lackey conveniently caught by no less than two ( count 'em 'two') cameras.
anywhoo… looking forward to next weeks gh opener and hope to be back here to comment.
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1:51 pm
March 5, 2009
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T.A.Sharps
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"Franks Bag" has generally been seen as a more creditable events on GH. Things like Frank supposeidly left the show after the event, and somone on here pointed out his name no longer appears on the credits. There is also the fact that the event was picked up by accident with the random movement of Brian's camera. Frank's reaction, physical and emotional, seemed genuine is anotheraspect that seems real.
Though it has two big things against it, it is TAPS evidence, and Frank works/ed for the show.
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4:43 pm
March 5, 2009
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dr_peter_venkman
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I agree Sharps. The Frank's Bag incident is one of the more credible events in the show's history. I tend to think it was a couple of members of the crew screwing around and Frank caught the worst of it.
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Hee hee hee! "Get her!" That was your whole plan, huh, "get her." Very scientific.
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4:53 pm
March 5, 2009
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dr_peter_venkman said:
I agree Sharps. The Frank's Bag incident is one of the more credible events in the show's history. I tend to think it was a couple of members of the crew screwing around and Frank caught the worst of it.
Someone (Oubliette?) in another thread indicated in the book (or "a" book) that Frank had just pulled some stunt on one of the other crew which may indicate that this was some sort of payback and they ran with it since it looked good. It could have been real, afterall there couldn't have been more than 10lbs of force applied in the scene :rolls eyes:
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5:44 pm
March 5, 2009
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I never really believed it was paranormal; but I believed Frank was truly caught by surprise and didn't have an explanation, at the time anyway, for what had happened. He just struck me as someone who really didn't know what had just happened.
HOWEVER,
If it comes out that it was just a gag played by a crew member……I don't know. The one shred of credible 'possible, but we're not real sure, "evidence'" they have; and it turns out to have been a prank…. I just don't know. It just opens their whole vault of evidence to scrutiny….no, ridicule. How can they convience us that any of their evidence hasn't been the result of a prank, joke, or Steve's fiddling with stuff (as pointed out by someone else in an earlier thread)? They can't.
They already have such little credibility left………
Oh, what's the point. There's really nothing left to say that hasn't been said too many times already.
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12:14 pm
March 6, 2009
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Oubliette
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Nosfer said:
dr_peter_venkman said:
I agree Sharps. The Frank's Bag incident is one of the more credible events in the show's history. I tend to think it was a couple of members of the crew screwing around and Frank caught the worst of it.
Someone (Oubliette?) in another thread indicated in the book (or "a" book) that Frank had just pulled some stunt on one of the other crew which may indicate that this was some sort of payback and they ran with it since it looked good. It could have been real, afterall there couldn't have been more than 10lbs of force applied in the scene :rolls eyes:
Don't think it was me because I don't remember any book (and believe me I would never read that idiotic mess that was fodder for TAPS fanatics) but I did read somewhere on the web that this had the earmarks of a trick played by other members of the crew. It's been a while so I don't quite remember the details.
I do think Bunyan8 made a good point:
"the fact that frank's glasses and hat remained on his head after this supposedly violent and sudden encounter with a ghostly tyson like entity, makes this whole scene suspect. when someone gets 'floored', both feet fly out and anything loosely attached to the head (ie; glasses, hat, mouthpiece etc) flies off."
It does give one pause. This show has lost so much credibility that, even going back in time, what once looked plausible now doesn't seem to hold up in the light of day. I simply can't believe anything they say and any evidence they present.
The only reason to keep watching is to see what new, possible hoaxes they will try and pan off on the public. What a shame. It started out as such an innovative and exciting show and now….
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If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
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1:28 pm
March 6, 2009
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I agree as well.
I used to always watch and be very intereset in the evidence. Now, when I see repeats, it is more like "Oh, now I see how they faked that one"
Sad. I still watch though and I'm sure they don't care why as long as they are making money.
On a slightly different note, I just wanted to say that how they end EVERY investigation is starting to get on my nerves. I don't even know why. But they say they same thing EVERY time
"Well, I'd just like to say that this place had been incredible……"
Every place has been incredible? Maybe I just need a break from GH 
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