OK ,let me start by saying that I do believe in the paranormal.Yes I do approach the subject w/a healthy bit of skepticism,and yes I started out as a loyal fan of GH…in the beginning! In the past few months though,I have lost faith in their intentions,as each show continuously raises the ante and then folds.

It seems to me that taps has become more laxidazy in their debunking,and too over the top about the actual evidence. The countless sites that claim taps has "sold out" and become frauds, do not help their rep. in the least!(especially when the real evidence proves to point in the direction of trickery lately!) Case in point,"Grant's little jacket pulling friend".PLEEEEASE! I swear I thought Ashton Kutcher was gonna pop out of some dark corner & start slappin hi 5's w/Grant over their cunning wit. Well let me retract that – at least Ashton's punks are believable,which is more than I can say about Grant's little stunt!

Now add to this that they use equipment improperly,have accused their own crew of not analyzing evidence thoroughly,have promoted the "all knowing" Steve to top "Tech God",& added Barry & his "magical equipment" and we have ourselves a plethera of inconsistencies….And we're supposed to trust them & hang on their every word as truth.RIIIIIGHT!

Now my point…has anyone ever watched any given episode of GH,or GHI and caught blatant,obvious evp's that are never mentioned throughout the whole show? What I'm talking about is evp's caught on the sound crew's equipment? I can't tell you how many times that I've been watching GH,& during a tour of the location, or during the reveal I hear these evp's that nobody on the taps crew,or the sci fi sound crew seem to mention or even notice.

Yes I am aware that because it's heard via the sci fi sound crew equipment,that taps themselves may not get a chance to hear this during analysis. It also has not escaped me that usually when I hear these evp's,taps doesn't have their own equipment up & running yet,(like during a tour of the location,or during a reveal.) Nevertheless,why isn't anyone in the sci fi cutting room hearing these evp's ,when splicing all this material together to make a 1 hr show?!It's coming from their own footage that they bring back. I can clearly hear them and I'm a bit hard of hearing. You would think that when something like that shows up,that someone at sci fi would make someone at taps aware of what they've been picking up,so that it could also be used as evidence…right? I mean if the ultimate goal is to sell a show, than sell the damn show!!!

I know,I know…if it's not on taps' footage how can I blame them for not noticing? I don't think one single member of taps or GHI can say that they don't watch their own show.All things aside I know that everyone has an ego,and we all like to feed it when it's hungry.I'm not saying that every member watches every episode,but c'mon they watch.Even if just to poke fun at themselves,or as entertainment during family functions(tell me you can't see Steve or Jay holding a card game and using Brian's "DUDE RUN!" episode as a pick me up during a dull moment!) Or Tango's "tiara walk of shame" as an ice breaker for those cumbersome visits w/the in laws? Hell if I was a friend of theirs, I  hardly think I'd be able to  help myself from sending everyone boxed season sets as x-mas gifts every year as an ongoing practical joke!(Because usually members of a show get them for free from the network anyway) My point is THEY WATCH. Yet they don't report.You never see a follow up show where the premise is "Hey during some shows we missed some stuff, but sci fi caught it …here it is."

Now take into consideration that on taps own footage there's been an instance or two where they have completely missed an apparition,or face,or orb or something.How in the world does this happen?I don't get it….either they really aren't seeing these things as easily as the viewers,or they're purposely missed or not mentioned. And what would be the point of that? I know I'm not imagining these things because I'm not the only one who notices them.I've been to the taps blog sites,and when anyone tries to report these sitings, they are either quickly kicked off the site and their question deleted,or they're not acknowledged at all(question never makes it on site).Why is this? I'd love to know since the whole purpose of this show is supposed to be"discovery"!

Why are a group of people claiming to be "paranormal investigators" ignoring obvious evidence & seemingly faking other evidence? Well I guess there's lots of reasons-contracts,lawsuits,dropped ratings.but one of those reasons definately isn't integrity!

Over the years, my loyalty to this show has been tested and I've found myself on a soapbox a time or two defending them,"oh but they help people" or "but their main focus is to debunk,not call every little noise a haunting",even found myself uttering the words "paranormal pioneers" or something as equally naive.But in the last month alone since sci fi has run 2 GH marathons & 2 GHI marathons,I've had a chance to watch consecutive episodes,and looking at the bigger picture – This show has turned into a joke!

Now consider for a moment,that for the past few yrs that I have been a fan of this show,I unfortunately did not have a DVR system through my cable co.,since they pretty much wanted all but my first born as payment every month, for ONE DVR box! I've only had a DVR system for about 7 mos now, and wow what an eye opener! This makes a difference because for years I only got to scrutinize their evidence through real-time playback.No rewind or freeze frame,no slow-mo play or even pause.Just the one or two times the network lets you view that clip during the one show a week everyone waited for.When you can only watch a show like this in real time,once a week it becomes easier to accept what your seeing as truth.However,when given the chance to watch episode after episode,w/ rew, freeze-frame,zoom,pause etc.,it's easier to "spot the not" and do your own debunking on their supposed evidence. (which is pretty much the equivalent of looking at the Mona Lisa w/a magnifying glass!)

I guess they could blame the dropped ratings on the invention of the DVR if they wanted to, or they could stop faking evidence,bring the real evidence to light and stop turning a blind eye and a deaf ear to the obvious! I say this reluctantly I might add,because up until recently I really respected this group,and their intentions.I can't say that now. After the last 2 marathons,& the recent 7 months of actually being able to watch & re-watch certain episodes via my DVR,I have to say What an utter disappointment! And what a fool I've been. I honestly don't know who has been MORE blind,deaf and dumb-them or me?!…OK THEM.

Not to mention Grant's latest hoax w/the jacket,his earlier hoax w/the lamp at the Stanley,Jason seeming so supportive of Grant's deceit,(I thought Brian was supposed to be the BIG FAT LIAR of the show?!) Oh that's right ,he quit and came back to fill the position of the GH scapegoat & whipping boy! Whew it's just soooo much b.s. Too much!  I guess that's what happens to a show when they when they stop playing for the love of the game,and start playing the game that shows them the money! SAD.

Anyway,just thought i'd share my views on this show to see if anyone has picked up on this very good example of "morphing" if you will ,of a show that started out as one thing only to turn out to be another thing all together?!  

Talk about the Helen keller syndrome, they've got it and aren't giving it up any time soon.WHAT A SHAME!

Thanx for hearing me out,all comments welcome from either side of the coin-provided the coin isn't used as a weapon to throw at me! disagree but pls don't hate. thanx a bunch!

blinddog50 said:

Don't know about the Helen Keller syndrome(not sure just exactly what that is).

But I will liken GH to the example of the blind squirrel.

However, I'm sure the squirrel had much better luck with acorns than GH has had with the paranormal.

Hey Blinddog, thanx for your comment. I agree w/your analogy too.

Helen Keller Syndrome: blind,deaf & dumb – although contrary to the definition itself,Helen Keller actually  proved to be a very intelligent woman!

The expression itself is somewhat an oxymoron – kinda like the show. 

To all above,

  Wow! If I thought that typing the word orb  would cause so much discussion, I would have written a post on that alone! I really appreciate all of your comments. I will try to address all.

  First let me start by saying this, I have actually seen orbs w/the naked eye. I was not alone when this happened, (not meant as proof to you,but as validation to me that I wasn't crazy at the time, as BOTH of us saw it).

conditions: Indoors, temp.around 68 deg., still night-no wind, no open windows, too warm for heat, too cool for central air, no fan was running, furnace fan was not on auto circulating air, it was not raining in my house, nor was it snowing, or misting, yes, dust exists in my home the same as everyone Else's.

Incident: While sitting on my couch reading, I saw a sparkle of light shoot from my floor in the living rm., diagonally across the rm into my Fourier, I didn't even have time to say anything before my bother (who was sitting next to me strumming his guitar) said "Did you just see that?" Before I could respond it shot out of the Fourier, across the room & disappeared into thin air about 3 ft from a wall. My cat was in that purr-trance state where they're just ready to nod off. When the orb initially  shot up from the floor, my cat was laying about 2 ft away from it . It startled her so bad, that when she shot up to dart out of the room, she scratched my hard wood floor! She then proceeded to stand at the entrance of the living room, hair standing on end, haunched back, ears back, bearing teeth and making a sound that I've NEVER heard from her before or since. It was only after that, that I finally said "Yes I saw that too, how many times did you see it?" He answered "Twice".

  For the rest of the night my cat refused to come into the living room, 2 days later she peed on the very spot the orb shot out from (3yr.old cat – well past litter trained – never peed out of place before or since).

Facts: Couldn't have been caused by TV glare – TV was off. Couldn't have been caused by outdoor interference, as we had shades – not blinds & lived off a private road (only traffic is ours & we were in). Instead of looking like it shot say across a wall, it actually moved through the open atmosphere of the room.Was not lens flare, as we weren't running a recorder or a still cam. It was about 2-2 & a half inches in diameter & had a faint tail if you will, following behind it (but the tail only appeared as it shot out the second time before it disappeared into the air). Cat got scared by something, & it wasn't my reading, or the guitar playing.That was the only time I've ever seen a cat act like a dog! It wasn't dust, as I don't know of any glowing dust particles almost 3 inches in diameter - that exists in any one's household (visible to the naked eye or any camera).

  Now, am I posing this as evidence? Of course not only an idiot would try that. But it is THE reason I choose to believe that there's more to orbs than people think. And no one will convince me otherwise. FYI: I used to laugh at the thought of orbs…before that night.

  Since then I have tried to be open minded, allowing my perception to broaden my reality (no I don't mean that the other way around).

  So now, with that personal experience shared by not just one person, but 2 intelligent rational minded people, not to mention a practically sleeping cat, coupled w/the basic laws of quantum physics, which is that everything has a frequency, a vibration, an ENERGY,- I don't really feel that there is even a debate. Every thing is energy; you, me, the floor you stand on, the bed you sleep in, the food you eat ,the thoughts you think - Everything!!!  I don't have to prove that, science has already done that for me. All I have to do is take the basic laws of quantum physics and apply them to whats being recorded as apparitions, mists, orbs, EVP'S, ITC, whatever you consider paranormal activity. It isn't complicated. It's all the same thing - energy. Different frequencies, different vibrations. It's all relative!!!

  I think that if people better understood what energy was, and the minutia of how it works, they might not be so quick to argue what forms it's capable of showing up in.

  Take the quartz for example, energy rock. Has a constant vibration of what – energy. And such a concentration of it mind you, that it is used to keep time. And a very regular,steady, consistent vibration of energy. With that in mind, I'll address a few points that were made.

—  "As for energy, energy does not travel in little balls of light, or in  a cloud. Energy is a measure of matters ability to do "work", for example in a contracted spring. A contracted spring has a measure of energy that enables it to lift/push other items. The energy beings (often in light or cloud-form) of science fiction are truly intriguing but says little of the nature of energy. With that siad, I am no physicist, only a layman and couldn't even if i wanted to really truly explain what energy is, I have to rely on what science seems to say. But as far where the energy goes when we die, I would say most of it simply move to other matter, like in the decomposing of a corpse that brings growth to plants and food for insects."—

  I hardly think that someone who can't tell me how energy works,could tell me exactly how fast it would move (travel) in one form or another. Since you say you  have to rely on what science says…here's a little science for ya.

  Physicists have proven that everything in our world is made up of sub-atomic particles of vibrating energy. Your entire body is a mass of vibrating energy. This is fact of quantum science.

  This energy of your mind and body creates an electro-magnetic field which results in your personal 'life vibration frequency.' YOU send out energy waves on a particular frequency. This frequency you emit determines the level, and type, of experiences that you attract into your life. It determines the life you are now living.

  That may sound a little 'out there' so let's look at a simplified example that will help you understand this…it may sound complicated, but if you follow along you will understand the principles…

  If you put your finger under a powerful microscope you will see it magnified enough to detect the individual cells that make up your skin. By switching to a more powerful microscope you can see the individual molecules that make up the cells. Using yet another more powerful microscope you will be able to see the atoms that make up the molecules. Going further, and using yet another more powerful microscope you will break the atoms down into protons, neutrons, and electrons (sub-atomic particles). Sub-atomic particles are energy. What you see as your finger is, in reality, a constantly vibrating movement, a form of energy.THIS IS A PROVEN FACT & IS BASIC KNOWLEDGE TO ANY PHYSICIST OR QUANTUM PHYSICIST! 

  In its physical form it's your finger. In it's 'true' life form your finger is made up of vibrating energy. YOU are made up of vibrating energy! Everything in this world is made of vibrating energy. If you look at a wooden table under the various microscopes you will again see the sub-atomic particles and vibrating energy. This is hard for most people to accept, but it is fact and if you want to research quantum science, you will find it to be true.

  This vibrating energy 'oscillates' at different intensity (frequency) levels according to your thoughts and emotions. These 'levels of vibrating energy' that you emit outward, attract similar levels of vibrational energy. Hence, some being more prone to see or experience the paranormal, & the different frequencies it emanates (like animals or sensitives).

  I hope that this has cleared up some confusion on how I could possibly come to the conclusion that orbs are"little balls of energy floating around".Or why I use the word energy  instead of ghost, spirit etc. IT'S ALL ENERGY. I may have misspoke when I used "floating" to describe movement.

  Thank you all for your well thought out points, but I'm sticking to science and what I know to be fact.The same energy exists in many different forms all over the universe, and it's up to us to change our perception of the bigger picture of reality, to allow ourselves to understand it's possibilities.

           Thank you all, you're a great bunch to debate with…definately keeping me on my toes!!!

  Stephan, I do have some interesting links for you,I just need to go into my files & retrieve them.I'll post them this afternoon.

                                                   Bye Guys --