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11:14 am January 29, 2009
| T.A.Sharps
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Has anyone been watching the GHI? I post this here because I'm not sure how many people check out the GHI part of the forums.
I was half watching last night's episode, and so far it seems like what GH would be without J&G, and all this exraordinary evidence in everyother show.
GHI seems to take any hint of something and streach it out into evidence, either that or Barry does and everyone just agrees with him. He keeps seeing this stuff in pictures and videos that I look at and see nothing accept a smudge at best. The same for their EVPs, they always say they hear a voice, and I just hear static, I don't know maybe my ears are going, I do work with jets. Has anyone else notice this?
I've also wondered how they can investigate these huge castles and forts with just 4 – 6 people.
So what is everyone's opinion on GHI vs what we all suspect of GH? Anyone here think they are more creditable than GH?
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11:34 am January 29, 2009
| Learjet
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Credible? Hahaha. No. But they are non credible in different ways.
It seems GH deliberatley fakes evidence, where GHI takes a smudge to be a ghost, static = ghost, shadow = ghost, mouse fart = ghost etc, similar to the way most youtube novice ghost hunters have no idea what they are doing.
If we take away the shadowy smudges how many episodes would there be with genuine evidence? There wouldn't be enough for a TV show.
Off topic…. I discovered that Indonesia has a similar TV show on Trans TV when I swung my dish over. I can't understand a word they say but there are guys with cameras on nightshot which are running through huts and the jungle circling ghost faces in the nothingness like our friends in the USA and Britain. Even though I couldn't understand the language I could tell the lousy evidence was bogus and matrixing.
GH copy cats in every respect. Unless they came before GH. In which case that would be too funny.
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12:24 pm January 29, 2009
| Bobarino
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First off, my opinion that I repeatedly state is that Robb has less Charisma than I have in my left pinkie toe. He is probably a nice guy – I'm not speaking to that. On camera he has no presence whatsoever and always seem VERY uncomfortable.
As far as GHI credibility, I agree that they seem not to catch very much and blow it out of proportion. Barry is reminding me of the medium from that british ghost show. He sees and hears things and tells us but we never see it on camera so we have to take him on his word. Now it seems to be happening almost every week, and he is the only one on the team seeing it. Last night he said he saw a full apparition leaning over a dresser. If I saw that I think it would be a big deal, but he just strolled over and casually explained what he "saw". Even when they replayed the view of his face when it was happening, it just didn't seem to fir what was "happening". The photo on the full-spectrum was unimpressive to say the least. And the EVP was VERY weak.
And finally, regarding investigating the huge locations, I was thinking the exact same thing last night watching the new episode. I was thinking that maybe they spend more time then they lead us to believe and just edit it to look that way. But that doesn't make sense. So it probably means they just don't do a thourough job – just rushing from one room to the next.
GHI would be better served, in my opinion, if they investigated fewer locations, and spent more time at each place. Then make ONE investigation per episode.
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1:04 pm January 29, 2009
| Nosfer
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Problem is that both are made for viewing on TV. They should (may do) spend a week or more at these large places but it would probably make for boring watching and there go the ratings…look at the Halloween episode for a comparison.
Barry is a good example of why I don't believe most of these things. I don't care how "seasoned" you are, if you see something your reaction is likely going to be a bit more animated. Was funny last night how the cameraman instinctively knew where to shoot the footage when Barry saw the shadow. It is an improvement, though, I recall the previous or was it the first season where Brian saw the same shadow 83 times in the same place and all the fricken' cameraman would do was focus on Brian's face!
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1:14 pm January 29, 2009
| StanTheMan
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I agree with everything Bobarino said except one. He said Barry is seeing something almostevery week. Not almost every week but definitely every investigation. I can't remember the last investigation where he didn't see something. Last night's really for me was the Halloween coat pull episode for Barry. They were investigating a very small room and only after he sent Dustin into the next room did he see a full apparition only feet from where he is sitting that no one or any equipment saw. Barry = Grant
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1:41 pm January 29, 2009
| Nosfer
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He's like using a psychic or medium for an investigation. Yes, the medium can say he's seeing this or that but what does it prove? You've actually complicated things because NOW you need to investigate the medium to see if he's legit. So now you are doing a one-off investigation. Doesn't do much for us, does it! lol. He sure does find the bulk of the evidence, too.
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4:36 pm January 29, 2009
| dr_peter_venkman
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Nosfer said:
Barry is a good example of why I don't believe most of these things. I don't care how "seasoned" you are, if you see something your reaction is likely going to be a bit more animated.
I agree. His reactions do seem subdued. Remember the episode in the saloon in Arizona where Jason and Grant saw the woman walk down the stairs? Their reactions seemed more genuine (at least at the time).
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Hee hee hee! "Get her!" That was your whole plan, huh, "get her." Very scientific.
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10:49 am January 30, 2009
| T.A.Sharps
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Actually I always thought he over reacted, everytime something "evil" happened he always wanted to turn back, or like there was one time he had to run out of the house.
Like they hear a noise, or something falls, so this must mean the ghost is getting agitated, then he wants to leave it alone for a while????
One I remember is the Hellfire Caves, him and Brian went to that room with all the maniquins in it, they both were so freaked out that they just decided not to go in there. I thought they were there to investigate the possibility of ghosts, they run away from the one place they think might have the most active?
I will give Brian Harnois a pass on that one though since the one thing he has always said he is scared of is dolls, I'd have to think it would be like dropping Steve in a pit of spiders.
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11:09 am January 30, 2009
| Nosfer
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T.A.Sharps said:
I'd have to think it would be like dropping Steve in a pit of spiders.
Now THAT would be "must-see" TV LOL
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11:41 am January 31, 2009
| Queen of the Nerds
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T.A.Sharps said:
Actually I always thought he over reacted, everytime something "evil" happened he always wanted to turn back, or like there was one time he had to run out of the house.
Like they hear a noise, or something falls, so this must mean the ghost is getting agitated, then he wants to leave it alone for a while????
One I remember is the Hellfire Caves, him and Brian went to that room with all the maniquins in it, they both were so freaked out that they just decided not to go in there. I thought they were there to investigate the possibility of ghosts, they run away from the one place they think might have the most active?
That is the exact reason why I refuse to watch GHI. It never made any sense that he would run away from the ghosts! Brian was mercilessly laughed at when he ran ("Dude, run!") but it seems like Barry runs away more than Brian did.
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2:44 pm February 1, 2009
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I have to say that I agree Barry has been a runner and has over reacted since the first episode I ever saw him on! I do think he comes up with a good idea now and then on how he might envoke a reaction from a spirit, ( I thought that playing music from the era in a ballroom where parties were suppposedly heard by people was a good one ). The problem being, if he were to envoke some kind of reaction I'm sure it would be "evil" or "demonic" and need immidiate fleeing from!!!
I am also dissapointed in what the GHI team consideres to be "proof" of a haunting. Laughable is what I would call most of it, and I am a believer in most things "paranormal". Well I guess I'm a skepical believer, in that I believe alot of it is possible, just not proven. Unfortunately the GHI has turned out to be one of those shows that just add fire to the flames in stereotyping and discrediting those who are actually trying to do something honestly and with some level of integrity.
Sorry guys but what happened to "when in doubt throw it out"? Also in my opinion 1 or 2 questionable EVP's does not a haunted castle make. What would it take to prove that a place wasn't haunted to these guys??
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11:08 pm February 1, 2009
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Personally the only reason my wife and I watch GHI is for the exotic locations. Let's face it, they get to go to some really cool places. It's not that American folklore is uninteresting, it's just so short. GHI gets to go to places with hundreds of years of history.
But investigation wise their crew feels a notch lower than GH (if that's actually possible). And we're very tired of them trying to sell a haunting on shadows, general feelings and a couple crappy EVPs. I mean common people…you're going to some of the most "haunted" locations on the planet. Maybe American ghosts are just more tech savy than old European ones…
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