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11:39 am
April 18, 2009
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Oubliette
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For those of you who remember my post about casting for a new paranormal show that is to include an investigator and his/her dog, I found a post on the TAPS 18+ board that kinda makes you go hmmmm…
One of the posters over there stated he had been to a lecture by Jay and Grant last month and they said that they are going to bring a dog into a future episode. He got the impression they were going to use the dog to "sniff out paranormal activity".
Now… MH tried this on one of their UK Live shows and the German Shepherd did nothing, I think, but bark up a storm and didn't come close to finding a spirit or "astral" as they sometimes call them.
This is yet another gimmick which indicates they are borrowing a page from MH's book. It is apparent to me that they have been copying MH for a while now. No, they don't use mediums or table tipping, but they use the electronic versions of this. The K-II meter is nothing but an electronic oujia board. Same with all the other gimmicks. When you start asking questions and get answers via knocks, table movement or an electronic gadget, what is the difference? One is simply more modern than another.
Although TAPS has made fun of MH in the past, looks like they were paying attention to some of their methods. And now the dog???
Of course, this may be just speculation and I've only seen the one post mention it. Someone wrote that Jason has two German Shepherds so maybe the dog will be one of his.
I love dogs and all, always like to see them on TV, but for a dog to sniff out ghosts is a little over the top, at least in my opinion. Especially when cameras are rolling and the dog is being overwhelmed by new scents, smells etc.
Boy, they are really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Anything for the ratings, I guess! Woof! Woof! Arf!
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If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
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1:01 pm
April 18, 2009
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Stephen
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Now, what would be cool is if they found the same dog that they use in their opening sequence (with the echoing bark). Why would that be cool? I don't know, really.
I'm all in favor of the dog, though– it would be one member that I could be certain wasn't deliberately hoaxing.
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1:32 pm
April 18, 2009
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blinddog
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Stephen, I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
Alpo smeared at certain places at a location they're investigating.
Scenario:
Dog runs into room to dog food smeared spot.
Tango: "Steve! Isn't that where they reported a full-bodied apparition 20 years ago".
Steve: "Tango! You're right, Fido must see it with his Super Paranormal Doggie Vision".
Guilt by association.
Or Fido might get listed as an executive producer just to keep his mouth shut.
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4:29 pm
April 18, 2009
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Martimus
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While I agree that it seems silly to bring a dog into the show (for obvious reasons), I think there is some merit to doing it. It's a well known fact that many breeds of animals are much more attuned to their surroundings that we poor humans. Now whether the dog could "zone out" the production staff and all the other districtions of an active investigation and focus on finding things that aren't apparent to our senses is another matter entirely!
On the other hand if they bring in a dog maybe they will also bring back Brian… that way there'll be someone around to keep Brian company the next time he finds himself in the dog house!!! 
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9:46 pm
April 18, 2009
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Learjet
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I seem to be getting the image removed by user all the time when I try to post inline so just click the link for direct.
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1261/page1cl.jpg
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1:28 am
April 19, 2009
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Stephen
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Learjet– if it's any consolation, I'm getting the same thing. Looking into it.
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1:29 am
April 19, 2009
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Stephen
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5:25 am
April 19, 2009
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@ Stephen: "Now, what would be cool is if they found the same dog that they use in their opening sequence (with the echoing bark). Why would that be cool? I don't know, really.
I'm all in favor of the dog, though– it would be one member that I could be certain wasn't deliberately hoaxing."
I guess the operative word here is "deliberately" as we all know how dogs can be trained to do almost anything. That dog, if I remember correctly, is a German Shepherd. For those who remember Mike Nelson, we could have another Rin Tin Tin on our hands. Wonder if Jason will introduce the dog by saying he/she's been a long time friend of theirs?
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4:19 am
April 20, 2009
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7:33 am
April 20, 2009
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Oubliette
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Learjet–you're funnier then some of the "professional" cartoons that have been spoofing GH! 
Martimus–it's true that animals are much more highly tuned to their environment. In fact, I've read that the Chinese take very seriously the actions of animals on a large scale and start preparing for a major geological event. Before that terrible Tsunami hit a few years back, all animals that could do so fled the area before most humans knew what was about to happen.
That said, this very fact hampers using dogs in paranormal investigations. Most of them will hit on anything, such as rodents behind a wall that are not audible to humans. My own dog has creeped me out some nights by suddenly staring at the back door or a corner of one particular room. But knowing her hearing is at least 10x that of mine, I am almost certain she is responding to rodent activity. And you can't ask them what it is that they are responding too. This is why I believe using them has too many negatives as far as what could be causing a reaction on their part.
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If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
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10:55 am
April 20, 2009
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Bobarino
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While I can beleive some animals are more "in tune" with their surroundings, this has always meant the real world and is based on certain senses being stronger than ours. i.e. Some animals can sense an earthquake a few seconds before we can due to being able to hear a wide range of frequencies. But in the end these are based on senses.
I don't buy into that meaning that they can detect ghosts. Assuming that ghosts exist (which in general I don't do), we have to take the leap that they are detectable. We then have to assume that some animals can sense them. But what are we basing that assumption on?
::sigh::
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I've found that being AWESOME is a full time job…
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11:05 am
April 20, 2009
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alicat
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Oops! Learjet – my apologies for not mentioning this sooner. Loved the cartoon! Absolutely hysterical. Thanks for posting it.
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7:26 pm
April 20, 2009
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Learjet
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Hehheh thanks all.
I agree with comment that if the dog does detect something, who knows what that something is? It's just like the EMF meters that detect EMF from "something". That's why GH love these tools, because if they could define exactly what it was they were picking up, they wouldn't have a show because IMO it ain't no ghost.
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8:37 pm
April 20, 2009
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Martimus
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Bobarino… herein lies the problem!
We, aka the human race, simply don't know how they are able to do it. Do they smell it? hear it? feel it? or is it something else that we simply don't comprehend. Unfortunately we, as a race, tend to be quite arrogant. We tend to believe that we know it all. And truth be told we don't know nearly as much as we'd like to believe.
One of the major reasons I keep an open mind about things paranormal is because I know we cannot explain it given our current techology, science, and general knowledge. UFO's are another great example of this. Many claim that our planet is the only one of it's kind in the universe. Others like the late Carl Sagan and Dr. Stephen Hawking believe that there is a distinct possibility of life elsewhere in the galaxy. This said I've never met a credible witness of a UFO landing. So is it reasonable for me to assume that since I've never heard alien TV game shows, alien radio broadcasts of ball games, and other communications consistent with OUR technology that alien life simply doesn't exist? I think not…
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9:11 pm
April 20, 2009
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Bobarino
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Martimus,
I agree with most of what you said.
My point isn't that there are no ghosts, but why would we assume that if a dog is barking while looking at an empty room that we would take that to mean there is a ghost there? I am sure there are many mundane non-paranormal reasons that may be happening. Everything from rodents in the wall we don't hear to, who knows, maybe the dog is not right in the head and is seeing things. We don't know. That is my only point. We don't know.
But, if GH brings a dog on an investigation, I will bet money right now they will assume it means a ghost is trying to communicate.
That is not even bringing up what others posted here about tampering. Some sly placement of Alpo and the dog is going crazy someplace random "for no apparent reason".
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I've found that being AWESOME is a full time job…
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12:09 am
April 21, 2009
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Martimus
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I agree… Bobarino!! 
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6:08 am
April 24, 2009
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Mary
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Being the proud pet parent of a German Shepherd, I can say that having a dog on the show would certainly liven things up a bit. I'm sure any dog on the planet would be able to find ghosts every bit as well as say, Steve or Kris. If they decide not to use a dog, they could always go with a canary. Oh, wait…. that's for finding gas. Never mind. 
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"Quando omni flunkus moritati" ("When all else fails, play dead") – Possum Lodge motto. Jason and Grant should adopt it as their own.
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5:11 pm
April 28, 2009
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Queen of the Nerds
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I think they should bring a baby on an episode. If the baby is staring off at something and smiling, there MUST be a ghost in the room.
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If you believe in telekinesis, raise my hands.
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10:34 pm
April 28, 2009
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Sabrina
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If they do bring in a dog it will be interesting to watch all the back-peddling done on the 18+ board. Any time a person posts that their dog (or cat) barked at nothing, was watching something move across the room or ceiling (that the human couldn't see) or in any other way "alerted" that something was there, they are told that these are normal behaviors for animals. But if it's on GH it must be real. Right?
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