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2:04 pm November 14, 2009
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Amazing how something so uncontroversial as the existence of ghosts can get so controversial lol
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2:15 pm November 14, 2009
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Jason's Response:
scifake.com/?p=2488
Not so much a response as a "statement" since it appears that Pilgrim and/or SyFy is preparing a response. It is good to hear that they will because that allows us to hear all sides and see what falls out from it.
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3:06 pm November 14, 2009
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Pretty much what I expected from him. Not too defensive. I noticed he's looking for a person (skeptic?) to join the investigation…Steven?
We will find a mutual person that rides the line down the middle of believer, non believer, fan or not. As long as they are honest and unbiased on either side then it will be a good thing. We can even send them out on a surprise so no one out there will say “TAPS new they were coming”.
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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." – Dr. Seuss
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3:13 pm November 14, 2009
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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." – Dr. Seuss
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3:24 pm November 14, 2009
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Nice that Donna is confirming a few things a few of us said…no smoking gun etc.
As far as a "skeptic" who is unbiased on either side….hmmmm, numbers are dwindling. One drop of potential blood is exposed and sharks swim in from every side :(
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3:34 pm November 14, 2009
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After reading more of those posts on SciFake, I'm feeling gossiped out over this. And it's only just begun…
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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." – Dr. Seuss
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3:37 pm November 14, 2009
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Then I suggest you don't listen to the entire Ghost Diva's podcast. Crude, vulgar and disgusting language by woman thinking they are hard a bunch of hard***** should not be added to the mix.
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3:37 pm November 14, 2009
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Hard to believe Donna didn't think this would create "Drama"
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3:39 pm November 14, 2009
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Alas, too late.
Think I'll google real ghost photos to distract me…
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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." – Dr. Seuss
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3:43 pm November 14, 2009
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Sorry to hear that. Rather gives women a bad name but only intelligent women would get it.
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3:44 pm November 14, 2009
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lol…I, for one, think I'll go watch Ghost Busters! Or maybe The Nightmare Before Christmas! :)
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3:51 pm November 14, 2009
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Can't resist. Apparently Jason is bored with this as well. He has deleted the relevant tweet.
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3:53 pm November 14, 2009
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If he's been asked not to respond by Pilgrim/SyFy, the removal may be for reasons other than boredom.
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4:11 pm November 14, 2009
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So now heres Jason's response re Donna to scifake
http://scifake.com/?p=2488
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If your cat's speaking Latin, you might have a problem
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4:14 pm November 14, 2009
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Oops! Hi phillyk48! Nosfer posted this in #59 above. 
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4:45 pm November 14, 2009
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I think this is a seed, give it time to grow.
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"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." NEMESISLABS@AOL.COM
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5:36 pm November 14, 2009
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alicat said:
Orion,
Hard on Donna? Not exactly.
As far as people getting taken advantage of in their contracts, those are the ones who don't read what they sign. They stupidly hire people to read and advise and allow themselves to be put up on a pedestal, surrounding themselves with "yes" men who rarely are out for the best interest of their boss but only their own paycheck. It's like a shell game. The more you insulate yourself in a celebrity world, the more you will find the money is draining away slowly but surely.
Recent case in point, Nicholas Cage. Because he didn't use the two eyes given to him to read and review anything he now claims he's "broke". No sympathy from me. Intelligent people do not get scammed in contracts. Intelligent people read what is before them and have the intelligence to put structures in place to avoid getting scammed in any business venture.
And sorry, peer pressure is a lousy excuse. I wouldn't do the same thing. Peer pressure may work while you are in school but not out in the real world. Signing a contract is a serious business decision. The same holds true if you are buying a house, a car, etc. It's your responsibility to know what you sign and have the proper individuals advising you. If not, it's your fault.
Just wondering.. are you a lawyer? You sound like one.
You really would've left TAPS at that point, while watching everyone else you knew and worked with for years become semi-famous household names ? (Before it blew up of course) I dunno.. how old was she again?
I've seen legal contracts, and I have a technical education, it's not like I'm illiterate; I can't make heads or tails of that gobbledygook for the most part. I can make more sense of a schematic. I think that's why they do that, to confuse the crap out of people. It's like a secret language for lawyers. Granted, you should always take a contract to another bloodsucke.. err, I mean, attorney, to have it examined before signing it, but what if the attorney you go to is lousy or lazy?
Do you think Jason and Grant were that much more intelligent or wise than everyone else in TAPS, that they ensured that their contracts were so much more lucrative.. or that maybe they were just at the right place at the right time through, largely, luck? I'm thinking the latter..
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6:01 pm November 14, 2009
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I'm thinking the former.
As producers would J&G be privy to information between TAPS and Pilgrim that would help line their pockets?
You betcha'.
Would Grant screw over a friend that he'd known since high school?
You betcha'.
Would Jason hoodoo a buddy that was hunting ghosts before Jason's green olive period?
You betcha'.
As producers J&G are given a budget by Pilgrim, anything saved is split between Pilgrim and J&G.
Are J&G capable of playing the game of f**k your buddy?
You betcha'.
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6:05 pm November 14, 2009
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Orion,
What I do for a living is of absolutely no concern. This is not the forum to discuss me and frankly, I don't appreciate the comment, funny as you think it is in your head.
However I can tell you that when you sign up for a show, you know the rules and you know the pecking order of things. Donna, Andy and Brian joined TAPS of their own free will. They signed on to the show of their own free will. Jason & Grant were always in charge. Big surprise they get the lion's share when GH went into production! To frame this in a job reference fashion, if you were offered a job in a company whose founders and principal investors were the President and Vice President, would you expect to be the leader of the company and make as much money or garner as much fame as them for the company's success? I don't think so. Would you leave your job because the President and Vice President were making more money? I think not. So why complain? You knew the deal when you approached them and subsequently signed up. There was a President and Vice President and you are the employee. This isn't brain surgery.
And frankly, I've worked for people that are very successful in the entertainment business and have won Emmys, Oscars, etc. I'm not the least bit jealous nor would I walk out because my work contributed to their success. I was hired to work for them and I knew my job within the company. I don't judge my success by theirs nor am I jealous of theirs. I wouldn't even think to put myself in their shoes.
Just because you've seen contracts and can't make heads or tails of them, doesn't mean someone else cannot. Just like someone reading a schematic – there are those that can and those that can't. There are many who would say that's all a bunch of junk. Granted you could take that to any bloodsucker who can draw it and charge a lot of money for their services as well. Problem is, people are too lazy to find the right person to do the job. Guess that's why there are a lot of badly drawn schematics read or unread.
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Thank you all for your support. And I do applaud Jason for coming forward with a reply. And, please no attacks on Jason, GH, and GHI. I NEVER intended my words would be on the flame throwing level. We are both adults. And I’m glad he sees it that way. I do wish them all the luck in the world as well.
Please note: I never said I hated or disliked Jason or Grant, I said I was disappointed things had to change because the new boss in town was the TV show.
I’m sure I’ll be hung with my words but Pilgrim and SyFy. I am not scared about what they are going to say. I spoke my truth. Lets hear what theirs is.
And yes, I did cancel my myspace account. I felt that there was going to a wave of wars and although I stand behind everything I say, I don’t want my myspace to be all about warring with people. Or Drama.
I was willing to let my myspace go in order to push down the bubbling pot of drama from exploding. I’m not recoiling, just need to cleanse myself of this and go in a new direction. And lessen the stress it has already put on my family. I guess stress comes with honesty, but I didn’t realize it would come to this magnitude, and now I need to do what is best for me and my family. They are even shocked this is a big deal.
I don’t regret my interview with the Ghost Divas at all. I had a great time with those gals. I just am surprised at these YouTube videos of such dramatic magnitude that are titled “Donna Spills The Beans” or “Donna spoke out about the Fakery on GH and GHI”. Those one-liners are captivating, but it is not the way the interview went down.
I will create a myspace soon again. And I’ll let you know how you can find me. I’ll post it several people. I’m NOT running away, but because I honestly thought I was not that popular these days in the media, I opened up personally. Didn’t know it would get to this. Didn’t want to get to this. But, in the end, I told my truth and that was that.
I’ll always fight the good fight, and be honest, but I need to do it in a way that it can avoid this kind of drama to it.
Be well all, and thank you for your encouragement and your support.
~Donna