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7:11 pm
November 13, 2009
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I have to ask. Why have several of you put the word "interview" in quotations?
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8:38 pm
November 13, 2009
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I liked the interview. I only listened to the full version, it seemed to flow well and Donna seemed sincere. Pretty good bashing on GH, makes me feel like not wanting to even watch them anymore. Guess I’ve been getting sick of them anyway, the show has run its course. Too bad Destination Truth is affiliated with the same production company, hope it doesn’t get ruined like GH.
I’d sure like to see that picture they were talking about with Donna flipping off the GH logo!
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8:59 pm
November 13, 2009
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alicat
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Darkeyes said,
Too bad Destination Truth is affiliated with the same production company, hope it doesn't get ruined like GH.
Darkeyes,
No, it's not the same production company. GH, GHI and GHA are productions of Pilgrim Films & Television which in turn sold them to Syfy.
DT is a Ping Pong Production sold to Syfy.
Different production companies. Only the network is the same.
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9:17 pm
November 13, 2009
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I'm curious as to why the comment was made that she should not have done the interview with the Ghost Divas as if they are nobodies. I mean, we are nobodies in the grand scheme of things, but what we do in the paranormal field is well known – we call out BS, so it was the perfect forum for her to tell her story. We were supportive of her and her need to tell the truth. This wasn't about getting anything – no one's getting anything out of it at all. It was about telling the truth. Her motivation behind it doesn't really matter. So what if she's bitter – she has good reason to be. At the end of the day, the truth is the truth no matter why she felt compelled to tell it.
She has blogged about some things she wanted to clarify.
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=417651030&blogId=518380418
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9:33 pm
November 13, 2009
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darkeyes
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Oh, I didn’t realize that. I thought they were all under the same umbrella. Then why do they keep doing those stupid crossovers? Guess SyFy wants to promote GH as much as possible. Well, that’s good news anyway.
Had to lol on the interview when they said ‘Jason TAPS Grant’ on discussing porn names.
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9:38 pm
November 13, 2009
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alicat
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Tammy, you presume too much. No one ever said she shouldn't have done any interview. She can do all the interviews she wants. You need to read the thread a little bit more and not take things out of context. The comment was made in reference to a previous comment about her going to a publisher if she was trying to stand up for herself. It was merely to point out that, if she did indeed wish to "spill the beans", writing a book would have gotten much more attention. Merely doing an interview or even writing a blog does not hold as much importance or generate enough interest if what she wanted to accomplish was to expose TAPS to the general public as a book does.
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9:44 pm
November 13, 2009
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Perhaps I took it wrong. We've been fielding a lot of comments from every direction the last couple of days. She could maybe do a book, I don't know how well it would do considering the masses of TAPS fans out there. I don't think she was thinking about anything other than just having a place where she knew she would be supported to tell her story.
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10:05 pm
November 13, 2009
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And that makes perfect sense Tammy. Hey, I say write a book or get a good PR person to help her get her story out just as long as she legally protects herself. Those Syfy and Pilgrim machines are very powerful and Jason & Grant are going to protect their livelihood. If she has her ducks in order though, she should have no problem. There are plenty of small publishing houses or she could self-publish. It's not cheap but people do like Donna (I do) and there are an awful lot of people out there that are still her fans and would support her in her endeavors. If she has a story to tell and she can back it up and not run into any contractual issues, she has a viable story to tell. With all the controversy over GH, people would be interested in what she has to say. I'm not saying it would be easy but she should look into it. And, if she could get Andy and/or Brian to join her, more power to her. She just has to remember, there are certain hurdles when you bring others into the mix that need to be overcome and innuendo and vague comments would not work. Just remember, as many TAPS fans that are out there, there are probably as many that are still fans of Donna's and there will always be those that will never accept anything negative about TAPS.
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10:14 pm
November 13, 2009
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She might do it now that she's talked about it. People have to realize this was really the first time she did that. We didn't really discuss what we were going to talk about in advance – we just knew she wanted to talk, so all her answers were totally off the cuff.
A few people have commented on the recording and stuff so I will clariify. There are 5 Ghost Divas, one Ghost Daddy, and a producer on the line then add in the guest so there are 8 people on most of the time. We use Skype because we're all over the country. There is sometimes background noise or people stifling giggles in the background because we also monitor the chatroom while doing the show and it gets silly sometimes. We do it for fun and because we want to bring truth to this field.
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10:47 pm
November 13, 2009
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The Doctor
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alicat said:
The comment was made in reference to a previous comment about her going to a publisher if she was trying to stand up for herself. It was merely to point out that, if she did indeed wish to "spill the beans", writing a book would have gotten much more attention.
If that's what she wants to do, I think she's made a good first step by starting some buzz.
Why even consider the problems involved with self-publishing if there is enough interest out there to attract some small ( or large ) house that could perhaps even provide a ghost writer to make a real professional job of it ?
… and depending on the amount of beans that could be spilt, there is allways the possibility that she would get a call from Pilgrim or SyFy offering a reasonable position somewhere.
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6:15 am
November 14, 2009
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Tammy, thanks for posting and giving everyone here a chance to understand the basis of this interview and what transpired.
Doctor, my comment was partially in response to your previous statement:
"She dosen't make anything by giving it away on a podcast, but if some enterprising publisher were to give her a call ?"
Yes, good buzz gives her a start but to have had the impact needed to sell a story like this in publication form, the element of surprise would have been the best tool. The impact is now somewhat lessened but a good handler could turn it around. You can't act like a bitter person and then expect people to be sympathetic no matter how right or wrong you are or how you earned your bitterness. That's a difficult hump to get over and you need a clear path to spilling the beans. It's like giving the enemy your location and then not expecting them to attack.
I only suggested self-publishing as an option if she didn't want to go the route of going to a publisher since she seemed to want to stay in a safe harbor by giving the interview to Ghost Divas.
Actually I didn't mention any offers by Pilgrim because I think that would only happen should a lawsuit be threatened or filed. Syfy would not get involved as they merely bought the show from Pilgrim. One exception would be if they were named and then possibly they would exert some pressure on Pilgrim to settle. However, by extending any type of offer, Pilgrim/TAPS and the entire GH franchise would come under fire and be perceived by the public as admitting they were in the wrong whether they were or not. Pilgrim has built their reputation making reality shows and selling them successfully. One bad apple wouldn't be so bad but this is the core of a pretty large apple which may be to hard to swallow. Saying that, however, we have to remember that this is show biz we're talking about – the land of smoke and mirrors. That being said, an offer could be made under the table with the agreement for all to remain silent. I seriously doubt that a "reasonable position" would be the offer due to logistics; however, a monetary one would be a more desirable outcome for Donna and those involved.
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8:36 am
November 14, 2009
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darkeyes said:
….I’d sure like to see that picture they were talking about with Donna flipping off the GH logo!
It's up in the corner of the article and she's wearing a GHI jacket:
http://scifake.com/?p=2468
I don't much care for the article as the questions that it poses (i.e., why are Tango and Steve still with GH if it's so bad, etc.) as I think the answers are obvious, esp. after listening to the full interview.
Had to laugh as at one point someone mentioned about IF this got to court–how funny would it be in talking about ghosts and ghost hunting in general, given the general public's perception of the subject? And again if this would be open court, there might be a lot of dirty laundry regarding J & G and GH, which is something I'm sure they want to avoid at all costs. So my guess is it would go into a private and closed mediation type of thing.
But actually I thought Donna was being very careful, as she would often pause to consider how much of an answer she could give to some of the questions. Someone had posted the contract that anyone appearing on Paranormal State had to sign and it was brutal. Something like $500,000 damages PER INCIDENT if someone said something in public they shouldn't have, if I remember correctly.
About lawyers and such–not that it's in the same category but look how many rock bands were cheated out of money, only ending up with a small amount compared to everyone else who took a piece. There are good and bad lawyers out there, as I learned the hard way when we were looking to sue a billion + company.
I often wonder if Brian gets any residuals from his famous "Dude, Run" statement that later appeared on T-shirts, caps etc. Or from anything associated with his appearances on GH. Just wondering….
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8:43 am
November 14, 2009
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I'm not always in agreement with SciFake, but it is nice to see that he raises the exact same question that a few of us have above:
You said during your interview there was an episode (a show) where there was apparent staging? However, you refused to mention the show …why? You opened that Pandora’s box and you NOW owe it to the fans to speak up. In my opinion, credibility goes down hill faster than an Olympic skier if you can’t provide fact
I often wonder if Brian gets any residuals from his famous "Dude, Run" statement that later appeared on T-shirts, caps etc. Or from anything associated with his appearances on GH.
Any time they refer to previous members who lied or who were troublesome (as Steve did on the GHA first episode) Brian should get a residual!
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8:47 am
November 14, 2009
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tammy said:
She has blogged about some things she wanted to clarify.
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=417651030&blogId=518380418
Tammy, could you post a more generic link that doesn't result in the viewer being brought to a page that reads:
Invalid Friend ID.
This user has either cancelled their membership, or their account has been deleted.
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8:59 am
November 14, 2009
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Nosfer said:
tammy said:
She has blogged about some things she wanted to clarify.
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=417651030&blogId=518380418
Tammy, could you post a more generic link that doesn't result in the viewer being brought to a page that reads:
Invalid Friend ID.
This user has either cancelled their membership, or their account has been deleted.
Unfortunately, I have tried several different ways to get to her MySpace and this message appears on all of them. Whatever the case, it seems to have just happened so I can't help but link it to the interview.
Looks like the fallout is already starting. Hang in there, Donna!
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9:12 am
November 14, 2009
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Nosfer said:
Tammy, could you post a more generic link that doesn't result in the viewer being brought to a page that reads:
Invalid Friend ID.
This user has either cancelled their membership, or their account has been deleted.
The link was good yesterday, and an interesting read.
Perhaps tammy will come back with the details
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9:34 am
November 14, 2009
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Nosfer said:
I'm not always in agreement with SciFake, but it is nice to see that he raises the exact same question that a few of us have above:
You said during your interview there was an episode (a show) where there was apparent staging? However, you refused to mention the show …why? You opened that Pandora’s box and you NOW owe it to the fans to speak up. In my opinion, credibility goes down hill faster than an Olympic skier if you can’t provide fact
First off, she dosen't OWE fans of the show anything … ever, and the attempt to give her some kind of guilt trip is pretty poor.
He says .." In my opinion, credibility goes down hill faster than an Olympic skier if you can’t provide fact"
So what does that mean then ? Since Donna was not prepared to tell all, they now have no choice but to believe that GH is telling the truth ? … that she really didn't suspect anything funky in the editing ?
SciFake is not going to get anyone to open up by attempting to use a crowbar on the first little cracks.
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9:40 am
November 14, 2009
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Doc, if she's going to just throw teases out there, then, quite frankly, she should just shut up. Either tell it, or don't, none of this half-measure stuff.
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9:42 am
November 14, 2009
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Does anyone else find it creepy that this link is already gone?
In the interest of preserving verbal history, this post was in the comment thread of SciFake:
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Hi, this is Donna. (Please don’t get on my ass about misspelling words, I am guilty of that, just wanted to clear the air in advance before I appear on the cover of People about it).
I’m here to answer your questions. First of all, I feel I do have the right to discuss the topic as I was scheduled for an interview with the Ghost Divas and there is no “timing” issue involved. They asked me if they could ask me some GH and GHI questions and I said “sure”. So, please know there was no intentional timing of this.
Second of all, I know your site is dedicated to “exposing people” and getting the scoop about their dirty deeds, but I really don’t consider my interview close to that. It was just my opinion. No smoking gun. People take this crud too seriously. Come on, if people are going to threaten me, try to sue me, etc., no worries, I’m not scared. I actually have better things to think about these days.
Decaying Angels comments are completely on target. I had no goals or intentions of this interview other than to share my experience. And yes, I didn’t want to share the episode I had my turning point, or the juicy bits and pieces, because I’m not all about ruining people’s lives. I’m not vindictive.
My interview isn’t going to damage TAPS or SyFy. I truly don’t think I’m that important to them. And if so, why? Why are people inflating this to the level of the world coming to an end? It doesn’t need to be spun in that direction, that’s where people lose sight of the story.
So, ok, I’m going to address Ron and his questions:
(1) Why did it take you so long to speak out?
Answer: Timing had nothing to do with a random interview being scheduled on that date. No premeditated intention. No hidden agenda. Nothing. People who know me have heard all of this before, and other cast members have talked about this before. Its really not a big deal.
(2) Opening Pandora’s Box and Owing you an Explanation:
Uh, no, I don’t owe anybody anything. I don’t think people’s world should revolve around my opinion. And I chose what to share, you don’t demand me to speak. Also, like I said, the interview was to to bash anyone personally, I was telling how it made me feel. I don’t care if people judge me because I didn’t go into detail about this matter. I have my integrity and if you don’t think I do, fine. You are entitled to your opinion.
(3) If it’s that bad, why do other cast members stay?
Answer: Steve and Tango are important and strong characters on the show, and now they have their own show. They are going to ride it out for their own reasons. Maybe things are better for them, probably is. Its been awhile since I filmed with GH, so I don’t know the situation now, just when I was on it.
(4) Question to the readers about me being a disgruntle employee because my success was less than others?
Answer: Nope, I’m disappointed, but not disgruntle. I don’t base my success on fame or fortune. I am disappointed in the fact that women on the show are featured in a damsel-in-distress light and how the show makes it out to be a boys club. Had I signed on as an actor for a ficticious TV show, I wouldn’t be disappointed. My name and my identity are very important to me, and to not know what you are being signed up for (that they could use the footage of you in anyway they want) was an eye opener. I think most of this could have been avoided with the producers being straight up with all of us of how this was going to go down.
Also, I wasn’t trying to discredit anyone. I was answering questions about MY experience. I never said anyone faked anything, just that if it did go on, I wouldn’t be privy to any info because everyone knows I take investigating seriously.
Look, I have nothing to sell you, nothing to gain by this, and I’m not seeing the point of this accusations made in my interview. Are you people looking to blow this up on me? Can’t you be skeptic without accusing me of trying to take TAPS and Pilgrim down. Good lord. Yes, I told you about the dirty underbelly from my experience, but please keep this all in perspective.
And as far as being envious of their success, NO I’m not. I’m glad they are doing well, seriously. If this is they way they make their bread and butter, than that’s their way. Its not my way. I make my own success, which has NOTHING to do with the paranormal. Yeah, I was on TV, so what? I’m just a regular gal, with a normal life now, and happy about my success. I do feel the experience opened my eyes to alot of things, but such is life. You live, you learn, you discuss, you agree, you disagree, and life goes on. Period.
And I can guess that no one in the cast or anything to do with the show would place a comment on my blog to support me. I can guarantee that. That is fine. But, I know why. They don’t want to rock the boat in this field with these shows. I don’t live my life in fear anymore. And I don’t need them to comment (although it would be nice) because I stand behind my beliefs.
I think its great you want to get Jason’s opinion too. Get the other half of the story. I’m not afraid to speak of what I believe is my truth.
~Donna