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9:51 am
November 13, 2009
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The Doctor
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Kudos to FORMERGHFAN for pointing this out -
This is a link to the entire interview ( strong language ) -
http://www.mypodcast.com/fsaudio/ghostdivas_20091112_1120-536059.mp3
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11:15 am
November 13, 2009
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Mary
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LOL! What a surprise. (not) What I'd really like to hear is an interview with Andy (Brian?), the guy with all the 'personal problems' (according to Jason). I'm sure he would have a lot of interesting comments to make as well.
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"Quando omni flunkus moritati" ("When all else fails, play dead") – Possum Lodge motto. Jason and Grant should adopt it as their own.
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11:18 am
November 13, 2009
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Oubliette
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Wow, this is great! I'm subscribed to MovieDan but hadn't checked my subscription updates lately and YouTube is very slow in sending update emails. I haven't listened to the full interview yet but the YouTube one is still extremely interesting.
I knew about some of what she's talking about from having visited various forums over the past year. At one point, Brian was even working as a temp trying to get some money for himself and his family. So IMO she's not making anything up.
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11:29 am
November 13, 2009
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Nosfer
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I did think the first part (not Donna but the intro by the interviewer) was a bit leading or trying to make out a bit more than might actually be the case, the part about "making sure the fishing line was packed" Definitely not an unbiased interview, but such would probably be hard to come by lol It will be interesting to see if this prompts anyone else to say anything from the inside to either confirm or refute.
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12:28 pm
November 13, 2009
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alicat
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While I don't disagree with anyone here to a great degree, I still have my doubts about certain parts of this edited "interview" that formerghfan put forth. Quite frankly, I think Dan over dramatizes about "spilling the beans" and this being an "amazing accomplishment". Really? I don't think so although I do want to listen to the entire original "interview" without the editing.
First, like Nosfer, I too felt they were "leading" the interview. There were no big surprises here except for the fact that I take strong issue with Donna's naivety and comments about her legal representation. Ironically, throughout the entire "interview" she bobbed and weaved herself including the end where she admitted she didn't want to say certain things due to legalities. Guess she's been advised by her bad lawyer.
What I heard was a good number of leading statements from the Ghost Divas, not Donna until the threats of TAPS or others going after her. Was anyone really surprised by her comments in general? I think not. We all knew someone would finally speak, it just happened to be Donna. Except for her "one turning point" which she wouldn't elaborate on, that's "spilling the beans", please. The "cult" comments are all things we've discussed since the beginning on this site. This was a surprise to anyone? To me hearing her talk about "serious damage" and "crying for four days" and being "very bitter about the whole experience" after just enumerating the benefits was extremely naive. She signed the contract. She had a college education. She wanted to do this. She was an adult and no one forced her. The same goes for Brian and Andy but I'd like to hear it directly from them.
Blaming the attorney because she thinks she got a raw deal? Please. What, after she figured out what J & G were making? What did she expect? She knew what was going on and the pecking order from the get go. Making statements she was lied to by the production company? Like what? Nice to make the statements but back them up with an explanations not just complain. There were none. What was she totally blindsided on? Again, no explanations. As far as Jason & Grant helping them, why would she think they should offer to help? As I said, she was an adult. How she managed her money, was her responsibility just like anyone else in this world no matter how much money she made and many others make a whole lot less than she did. Also, no matter what you or I think of J & G, it was Donna or Brian or Andy's responsibility to stick up for themselves. Despite our feelings, how exactly does that make J & G not nice or honest guys? I've worked for many people in my life but I don't expect or want them to stick up for me. That's my responsibility. Do I consider those people not so nice or dishonest? No. Everyone has their jobs so move on. Once Donna, Andy and Brian chose another opportunity, that became their own responsibility.
I liked Donna, Andy and yes, Brian to some extent. However, I'm not surprised by any of this. I'm just disappointed there was a lot of "crying" and no facts or real admissions.
As I said, I need to listen to the entire, unedited "interview". This is just a comment on formerghfan's clip.
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12:57 pm
November 13, 2009
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rjlaman
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I think her words are clear. Don't get confused by biased comments. The fact is she stated they faked evidence.
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1:11 pm
November 13, 2009
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Nosfer
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If she stated it, then the cat is already out of the bag and the damage done, so why would she not name the episode?
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1:17 pm
November 13, 2009
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alicat
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rjlaman,
I am certainlly not confused by any biased comments. What I see is someone dancing around it. If she was "spilling the beans", she should have SPILLED THE BEANS. She stated she wasn't afraid of anything or anyone. She even stated they could come after her. Well, put your money where you mouth is and say it loud and clear. She shouldn't have any problem whatsoever with naming episodes and what was done. I don't doubt things were done but what I'm saying is this was a bit on the dramatic end.
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1:21 pm
November 13, 2009
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blinddog
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"It must be true, I saw it on the Internet."
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Double tap to the head. Don't become Undead.
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1:24 pm
November 13, 2009
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Nosfer
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blinddog50 said:
"It must be true, I saw it on the Internet."
LOL, that's all the proof I need!!
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1:50 pm
November 13, 2009
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BrendaLee
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Listening to the whole interview, I don't think she ever point out said: they faked it. She talked about noticing things, a turning point, but there is no statement that something was faked. Only that she was being lied to and to keep her mouth shut. No specific show was mentioned, no specific incident was described.
So, though I have come to believe that TAPs is clearly faking, I don't think this interview is the smoking gun described.
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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." – Dr. Seuss
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2:02 pm
November 13, 2009
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alicat
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I agree BrendaLee. I think her comment about keeping her mouth shut puts her in the same realm as exactly what she's complaining about when talking about Jason & Grant not being nice, caring or honest (to put it politely and not as graphic). Does she think that her actions don't carry ramifications or fit into the same description she's complaining about because she's no longer there? I actually like Donna but I'm disappointed.
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2:08 pm
November 13, 2009
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I think I am with Alicat on this. (I can't believe I just said that) 
It's hard to take too much from this. Yes, she is saying things happened. But she also is saying she had financial problems and J&G are set for life. So… sounds like a disgruntled former employee to me. J&G can easily discredit her statements as such. I would if I was them.
It almost sounds like she was expecting them to help her financially. Just because they are on TV doesn't mean they have to do that. If they had the means, and they were a close knit group, I think they probably would have helped at least for a while. That may have been the kinder, gentler thing to do. In their place I probably would have helped if I could, assuming she didn't leave on bad terms. But more likely J&G are looking at the show as a business. As such, I don't see anything wrong there. They are not a non-profit… oh wait, they claim they are don't they? Oh well, you get my point.
If on the other hand if she came out and just said they fake stuff and discussed when and where and what they did, without all the financial stuff, well it would at least come off as more credible. I think we all here are in agreement that GH does fake evidence. But this clip doesn't do much to support. Just my 2 cents.
PS: What was that annoying sound in the background? They need to do something with their recording technique.
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I've found that being AWESOME is a full time job…
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2:08 pm
November 13, 2009
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The Doctor
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It could be that she finally is looking out for herself -
She dosen't make anything by giving it away on a podcast, but if some enterprising publisher were to give her a call ?
Maybe have a chat with Brian and others who have left the "family" ?
I've even got a title for it … how does TAP'D OUT sound ?
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2:12 pm
November 13, 2009
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I may have to listen to the interview again, but I thought she stated the faking was in the editing, which would be far easier to do then rig up fishing line. I don't think this interview was the "smoking gun" either … I think Donna would have needed to be more specific. When it came to spilling the beans, she really was rather vague. I don't believe much of what goes on in TAPS is real, to me it was always just entertainment.
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2:58 pm
November 13, 2009
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alicat
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Well, if she was finally looking out for herself, this really wasn't the way to do it. The smart choice would have been to make contact with a publication not giving an "interview" to Ghost Divas. I believe, or at least hope, that she had actually spoken to Andy and Brian prior to making the statements she's attributing to them.
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4:07 pm
November 13, 2009
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Nosfer
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Wonder if she was referring to the editing job done in the Manson case? In which case, she hasn't spilled anything and no big shocker because the only one not aware of that little incident lives in a hovel in Elbonia. Just saying….
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5:27 pm
November 13, 2009
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alicat
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Bobarino said:
I think I am with Alicat on this. (I can't believe I just said that)
I neglected to acknowledge your comment! LOL  See, I knew one day I'd get to you! 
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6:47 pm
November 13, 2009
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BrendaLee
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I think the TAPS guys are going to treat this like Halloween '08: ignore the heck out of it.
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