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7:00 am
January 27, 2009


blinddog

Special Agent Zombie Elimination Agency

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posts 857

Actually I lost faith in the Titanic Twosome after reading their book.

In the very early days of TAPS they were physically wrestling with ghostly spirits.

Casting out demons and sending them back to the bowels of Hell.

Taking on Satan with only sword & shield.

Then came the green olives.

Now we have the K2 meter and "Are you dead?", " Can you knock on the wall?", " Why are you here?".

Somebody is full of crap somewhere.

Although, in Jason's defense, I too have seen and heard many strange things when green olives were involved.

But they were usually at the bottom of  a martini glass.

Double tap to the head. Don't become Undead.

10:54 am
January 27, 2009


CrowTRobot

Investigator

posts 228

(sssssiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigghh) ………The K2 meter……… (sssssiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigghh)

Regarding Steve. I can't quite figure this one. In the beginning, God created the……………whoops. Wrong theory……..In the beginning of GH, Steve was a pretty solid investigator and, as far as I can recall, a fairly solid individual. Now, putting aside some of the silly drama the SciFi folks added to the show – his bickering with Brian, then Andy, and that 'girlfriend for an episode or two' of his - it seems his entire persona has changed…..for the worse. I don't know if it's just been written in or edited that way; or maybe now we're seeing the true Steve.  Either way, he can't be happy with it.

Hmmmm. I guess that's it. The time has come, the dream is gone. Thought I'd something more to say.

EDIT: Oh yea. Now I remember. The olives: I'm with you blinddog. I've seen some crazy stuff after finishing off a few olive-filled dirty martinis.

I….I'm thinking.

11:13 pm
January 29, 2009


AA Adams

Investigator in Training

posts 19

As far as Steve, he's my favorite, had a friend exactly like him in college (looks, mannerisms, temperament, voice, everything). In fact the first time I watched him on an episode I checked his name to see if he was my friend's son, they live in the same area. But just like my old friend was I see Steve as backboneless, a go with the flow, won't rock the boat type. Could not break it off with his girlfriend, left it up to a buddy to do it, etc. A real follower, at least on the OUTSIDE. But he's got a whole lot more going on on the inside…oh, and likes to party…but you'd never suspect it.

1:29 am
February 2, 2009


Stephen

San Jose, CA

Admin

posts 589

Back to Icculus' tough question: "what exactly is your take on 'ghost phenomena' in general?" Hmm. Here's Stephen's view of the world in 478 words.

First, I'm not trying to render summary judgment on all paranormal reports, or the world in general. Also, as ever, I speak only for myself here. Logisti has his own views, and they may differ from mine.

I'm not sure I see how ghosts– formerly living humans that are still able to think and act independently of their bodies after death– can exist. I've seen strong evidence that our memories, our personalities, and our very senses of self are tied very closely to our brains. When my brain stops working, I'll no longer have the things that make me me. If a little brain damage can alter these, think of what total brain death can do.

I do believe in mysteries, though, and there are plenty to be found. What is dark matter, this stuff that makes up 99% of the universe? How did the universe begin? How did life start on Earth? Is there a single theory that describes the laws of the universe? How exactly does the brain work? Are there other intelligent beings in our universe?

Then there's the possibility that there's something interesting happening in these accounts– something not ghostly, but worthy of scientific study. I think that that's true even if it turns out to be merely "tricks of the mind," since the mind is surely worthy of study.

Perhaps there are versions of the ghost hypothesis that might fit into my view of the world. Maybe there are intelligent beings made of dark matter. Maybe our reality is more socially-constructed than we realize, and memories and stories can take on a life of their own. Maybe this world is a computer simulation with an occasional glitch. Maybe I'm simply wrong.

If we find evidence of ghosts, I will be surprised. I would have to rearrange my worldview quite a bit to accommodate ghosts. However, if I ever find such evidence and could verify it… that'd be a great day, and I would toss my old worldview like a tattered T-shirt.

I don't consider myself a reductionist or a materialist. I make no assumptions as to what the world is made of. (Especially since last time I checked the physicists were claiming it was made of string. Now that's a universe Grant should be comfortable in.) Nor do I think that low-level descriptions of reality necessarily are the best.

I am a skeptic, and as such I require objective, compelling, and verifiable evidence. For me, though, being a skeptic also requires constantly challenging my preconceptions. What if I'm wrong? Can I devise a test to prove or disprove my belief? It's that process that gets me going and keeps me interested in investigating the paranormal.

Stephen the Friendly Skeptic

9:20 pm
February 7, 2009


Dedicated_Dad

Investigator

posts 64

Stephen said:

I make no assumptions as to what the world is made of. (Especially since last time I checked the physicists were claiming it was made of string. Now that's a universe Grant should be comfortable in.)…


I L-Lol'ed.

You rock.

I may steal that one for a sig-line…

Thanks – you seriously made my day with that one!

DD

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