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4:42 am
October 28, 2009
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gman26
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I wonder why the people at these haunted locations dont document the evidence themselves prior to or after the TAPS team visit. Why do they rely on a bunch of strangers to come in and do it. They're there all the time and would have the best oppotunity to catch something. Do they just want there five mins of fame or what or are these locations even haunted in the first place. just contrrolled environments hired by the producers coz they look spooky were a small staged performance can take place without to many questions. I think the clients get paid for this but if anyone knows any different let me know. I understand that the publicity wouldnt be a bad thing for guest houses etc
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6:09 am
October 28, 2009
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timmyj3
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Good point gman. There have been a few few GH episodes where the home owner may have had a recording or picture but very very dew. I would think letting a digtal recorder run or video cam run would be inexpensive and easy. Just putting stuff in a notebook which jason will suggest sometimes. Makes you wonder how concerned the property owners really are about the "hauntings". Thanks, Tim
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6:42 am
October 28, 2009
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Angelayo1970
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From what I understand, a lot of homeowners (and business owners) have documented their own "evidence". However, as investigators, TAPS can't include evidence that wasn't obtained by their own investigators because they don't know that it wasn't falsified or tampered with. Which is ironic, considering they don't seem to mind falsifying and tampering with their OWN evidence, but I digress. 
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"In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." -Galileo Galilei
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9:29 am
October 28, 2009
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HollyDolly
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If these people go and show TAPS documentation of things that happen, like seeing a shadow or apparition, things moving etc. or even if they capture evps of speech, we may not see this,because the producers cut it from the show. Also, some clients may not even think to keep a record of what's going on in the home or business. Some do. I think even Jason mentioned to a few clients that using a camera or writing things down help solidify what they are claiming. Some times when they go places, things don't always happen.
So this is a good way to back up what people see and hear. Angelayo 1970, you are right.That maybe why TAPS doesn't include it in the show. However, I would think if it was say Abraham Lincoln's Springfield home, and other people lived in the house after he died, and there were records of say Lincoln's ghost or of his wife ,etc. dating back to the 1860s or so, then this would back up claims of a haunting. There are some historic places that have been haunted for years, and are well known by the towns folk ,and there is information in old newspaper archives and letters etc. to prove it.
But yeah, TAPS doesn't seemd to be too concerned about things they have done in the past.
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10:26 am
October 28, 2009
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alicat
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HollyDolly said:
However, I would think if it was say Abraham Lincoln's Springfield home, and other people lived in the house after he died, and there were records of say Lincoln's ghost or of his wife ,etc. dating back to the 1860s or so, then this would back up claims of a haunting. There are some historic places that have been haunted for years, and are well known by the towns folk ,and there is information in old newspaper archives and letters etc. to prove it.
Exactly what records would those be and how exactly would they back up any claims of a haunting? Just to say it in a newspaper or in a letter doesn't make it true. Newspaper archives and letters prove absolutely nothing except someone telling a story.
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10:46 am
October 28, 2009
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alicat said:
Newspaper archives and letters prove absolutely nothing except someone telling a story.
Most claims are just that, though, a story (the validity of which, at this point is not so much an issue). It would at least show that people were talking about it then, whether true or not.
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11:24 am
October 28, 2009
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alicat
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True, there were also stories written that the earth was flat as well and look how that turned out. 
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11:50 am
October 28, 2009
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Bobarino
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Huh? The Earth is not flat?!?
It has crossed my mind in the past that some places may pay or offer payment to be on GH. Makes business sense, but if true and evidence of it got out a serious credibility issue would be raised which may spell the end of the show. I am not sure they would chance that. Also, how could they objectively investigate someplace that is paying to be on for publicity. You would think that they would feel obligated to do whatever they can to make people want to go there, not debunk paranormal activity. I think there is too much to risk for them to do that. But then again, Collergate was pretty lame, and they didn't seem to mind chancing that on live TV, so who knows?
As far as stories go I think the more "history" a place has does add some credibility. If there has been documented activity for hundreds of years, and there are notes surviving from that time, well that would mean more to me than the store owner saying the gift shop has a ghost that pops out when you buy something.
Doesn't prove anything, but does help establish a greater possibility perhaps worth investigating.
Not that TAPS is even worried about investigating…
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1:56 pm
October 28, 2009
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alicat
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Sorry to burst your "bubble" Bobarino.
I understand what you are all saying but I think we have to remember that back a couple hundred years ago, writing a story was the only way of communication (unless A.G. knows something he's not telling). Some of these stories weren't exactly accurate and that even includes historical stories. People haven't changed that much in storytelling as they are still writing ghost/paranormal stories today that we can't believe (Seeking Spirits anyone?). But, a 100 years or so from now, there may be those who believe them to be truthful as fervent GH fans do now. Certain stories were embellished to scare people away from places, some were to call attention to a place, some were just out and out "stories" to sell a paper. Connecting them to historical sites (i.e. Betsy Ross in 2008), Old Humpy at the Ancient Ram Inn, Nottingham Castle or the majority of castles would not be unusual as we have recently seen.
As far as documenting activity for hundreds of years, I'm guessing I should go back and pitch my tent at Loch Ness since even the clergy have made claims which have been written down in history. The fact is, the people of years past did not have the benefit of the acquired knowledge we have now and their firebreathing dragons have been slayed.
Here's a website I find interesting which may help to understand what I am saying and how "reliable" historical stories can be. You can read it here. There are also several very interesting stories within this site located here and then on specific one by Edgar Allen Poe here.
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4:10 pm
October 28, 2009
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That's why any story has to be verified. But it remains that if it's a common person writing personal notes or letters or a diary and you have a few examples of that from a place by different people, then I'd certainly be investigating there before I would a random address.
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