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9:01 pm
February 15, 2011
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Nosfer
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Continuing this recent trend of making titles based upon other works, we have this week the "Soldiers of Misfortune".
This should be the mid-season finale for GHI. I was going to say that pretty soon they will go to a quarter-system as part of their overall plan of hyping episodes with a final goal of every episode being some sort of finale. But then I started doing some research on these episodes and it turns out they already HAVE. Apparently this has ALL been Season 2 and it started with Wicklow's Gaol on 8 July 2009. This one in Puerto Rico will be the end of Season 2 (Finally) So what we have is Season 2 running from 8 July 2009 through 16 February 2011, a little over a year and a half!?!
This time the crew heads to Puerto Rico to investigate Castillo de San Felipe del Morro and the Teatro Tapia. Another lighthouse investigation which could be fun. Supposedly there are the groaning ghosts of dead soldiers haunting it. I fear most of the groans will be coming from the audience, though.
http://www.nps.gov/archive/saj…..morro.html
This time we are promised the most compelling paranormal evidence of any Ghost Hunters yet which could mean that Susan gets here hair yanked THREE times in this episode. Or Joe gets touched on both arms at the SAME time.
Scott decides to one-up Josh in this episode. Pay attention in the theater (Teatro Tapia). Not satisfied with the infamous "Go! Go! Go!", Scott "go-gos" at least 4 times. Maybe 3 times only would have been an infringement of Josh's catch-phrase?
For a little fun, how many things do you see wrong with the picture included with this press release for the Season Finale
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.c…..romo/82379
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12:38 am
February 16, 2011
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Nosfer said:
For a little fun, how many things do you see wrong with the picture included with this press release for the Season Finale
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.c…..romo/82379
Well for starters, there's 3 ghosts in the photo. 
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10:05 pm
February 16, 2011
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The figure was moving very fast says Barry. And it even appeared transparent almost. Well, that fast and 30 frames per second? Yeah I bet it would take on that appearance. I'm sure they got all the bats and other flying things out of there, right? It was probably one of our intrepid hunters who got too close to the camera with his script in hand. Overwhelming evidence? All the evidence? They must not be showing us everything!
Well, onto the next Season, can only get better, right?
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12:18 am
February 17, 2011
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Axel Olrik
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I am only 15 minutes into it..but will someone please slap Susan? Or recommend a good therapist.
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9:33 am
February 17, 2011
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I think it's too late for her! She started to go all dizzy and leading into a possession again it seemed but at least she didn't take it to completion. There were a few other things that annoyed me about their actions at both places, but mercifully through the healing power of time I can't remember what they are right now!
I think one was the fact that this person who saw the guy walk through the wall couldn't possibly have known about what the lighthouse looked like in the past. The mere fact that they were able to do some "research" and find out tells me that someone else could have, too. In fact, I found a similar picture in less that five seconds (literally) after the reveal. And just because there was an arch proves nothing, but they made it out to be that they had just confirmed her story. So much for "scientific" proof.
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11:55 pm
February 17, 2011
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Did you notice that this time they were all trying out the appropriate patois: Chinese (of course no one made sure it was the correct dialect) and Spanish?
Does that mean their handlers are prowling the SV site?
And, if so, does that mean that Susan will get the help she (and the viewers) so badly need?
(Je suis à mes genoux!)
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9:25 am
February 18, 2011
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Thank heavens all these places are inhabited by tourist friendly ghosts!
And how is it that on each location GHI get to drive the same type of flashy vehicles when on DT Josh gets old beat up junk? Are all these pre-order?
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10:22 am
February 18, 2011
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As close as they drive behind each other, all it's going to take is for one little iguana to run across the road and GHI will be driving some banged up hunks of junk, too! 
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10:43 am
February 18, 2011
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Why don't kris williams wear the seatbelt properly?
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1:11 pm
February 18, 2011
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Revenant
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I've seen TAPS investigate a handful of theaters now. For once…I'd like someone…anyone…to acknowledge that these buildings are actually designed to reflect sound. Particular acoustic properties are the goal during the design and constructions of these places. So maybe…just maybe…hearing a voice or hearing a sound where ever may not be a big deal. In fact, it's probably desirable. Yet, for some reason, this is lost upon them.
Like all the other season-enders…it signifies myself getting tired of the "did you hear that" routine. The funniest part? They HAVE a sound guy on the production staff. They literally have a guy who went to school to study audio equipment and acoustics. Do they ask him anything? Nah….I mean why? It's best just to keep everything as ambiguous as possible. Good…great…grand…
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1:25 pm
February 18, 2011
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I remember in one of the earlier, maybe the first, theatre investigations, Jay did say something about the inherent acoustic properties of theatres making the investigation difficult…but I don't think Pilgrim likes that kind of analysis.
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2:53 pm
February 18, 2011
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Susan is very tiring to watch and belongs on Most Haunted. Was it me or did she come across as a little snippy when correcting Paul's Spanish?
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3:43 pm
February 18, 2011
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Yet the EVPs they get still seem to be in English. Well, one was, the others were just shorter GA type EVPs. ie, nothing really there so they matrix something in, just that they stop before they get to a full paragraph's worth.
I guess what really gets me is the discrepancy between what they say they are about, and what they actually do. The whole franchise tries to put on the face of looking for proof, being skeptical, debunking…yet as soon as they start the investigation they are assuming ghost this and ghost that.
Question…what is "unusual paranormal activity"? Barry says this or a variant at least twice in this set of episodes. Isn't paranormal, itself, unusual? Why the term unusual?
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1:57 am
February 19, 2011
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Nosfer said:
Question…what is "unusual paranormal activity"? Barry says this or a variant at least twice in this set of episodes. Isn't paranormal, itself, unusual? Why the term unusual?
Well you see apparently everyday paranormal isn't unusual now since every place they go to lately has paranormal activity so he needs a new definition for the unusual.
Then there's the haunted definition, so according to Barry there are three definitions, paranormal, unusual paranormal and haunted.
Maybe next season Barry will use a paranormal level scale like something from 1 – 10. One is only slightly haunted and ten is uber haunted! (There will be no non haunted scale since all locations have paranormal activity)
Then after season 3 when all locations are a 10 on the Barry meter paranormal scale due to paranormal "inflation" he will need to increase the scale from 1 – 100. After season 4 it will be to 1000 etc until paranormal hyper-inflation sets in and like Zimbabwe he will need a 100 trillion paranormal scale, then the show will be cancelled due to the paranormal becoming meaningless.
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10:37 am
February 19, 2011
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Learjet, I laughed so hard coffee nearly came out my nose! There really isn't anyone trying to debunk anything anymore. They need a skeptic because you are correct, everything is haunted. Even when hauntings don't occur everyday, somehow, they always manage to capture the exact same thing as what people have been experiencing. Like a figure walking by the lighthouse, and being touched up in the balcony. Wouldn't it be great when they say, nope we didn't really experience anything we couldn't explain away. At least they managed to debunk the "orbs" from the photo. I give the some kudos for that. However, part of me thinks that if it was their picture originally instead of a tourist's photo, they would have called them orbs.
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10:41 am
February 19, 2011
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Post edited 10:42 am – February 19, 2011 by Nosfer
Learjet said:
Well you see apparently everyday paranormal isn't unusual now since every place they go to lately has paranormal activity so he needs a new definition for the unusual.
No, it doesn't seem to be does it…although Everyday Paranormal may become more of an unusual sight for people since they were relegated to the after midnight time slot
That is one thing (number 8 on a list of 341) that bothers me about these shows. Consistency…or lack thereof.
The have 47 different types of EMF reader and never explain why they are using a particular one (not that it really matters, though, I guess)
They go to on place and Susan experiences an uneasy feeling and they get an EVP and it's haunted.
They go to another place and Scott gets weirded out and they get an EVP and there's definitely paranormal activity going on.
They go to place number three and don't experience anything, but it's a hawesome looking place that is three days away from bankruptcy and not only is it haunted, but they'd love to come back and investigate again sometime.
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9:47 am
February 20, 2011
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Buffy said:
Learjet, I laughed so hard coffee nearly came out my nose! There really isn't anyone trying to debunk anything anymore. They need a skeptic because you are correct, everything is haunted. Even when hauntings don't occur everyday, somehow, they always manage to capture the exact same thing as what people have been experiencing. Like a figure walking by the lighthouse, and being touched up in the balcony. Wouldn't it be great when they say, nope we didn't really experience anything we couldn't explain away. At least they managed to debunk the "orbs" from the photo. I give the some kudos for that. However, part of me thinks that if it was their picture originally instead of a tourist's photo, they would have called them orbs.
I don’t feel that GHI and GH has ever done quality
debunking. They do the bare minimum to try and show that they are being genuine.
They have both demonstrated that they have no control over the location being
investigated, but have of yet to take any action to control this contamination.
Also the debunking experiments that are performed are done rather poorly and
seem to be done to lead the audience to conclude paranormal forces are in motion.
I feel it is like having a person who knows nothing about
math trying to prove that (2x = 4) is paranormal math. This person would do
2 divide by 2, 2^3, and/or 2(3.14) and miraculously does not come up with 4.
Does this make (2x = 4) a paranormal equation? I wonder how many engineers would
be able to use GH or GHI’s sloppy methods to verify their theory and still have
a job or their building standing 6 months later?
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11:39 am
February 20, 2011
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They do (or did) occasionally come up with some fairly decent debunks in the past. Two that I can think of off the top of my head were the door opening by itself at that church-turned-home owned by the gothic couple. I believe Andy was a part of that debunk.
The other I recall that impressed me (provided that it wasn't set up) was the "soccer-ball sized orb" that Jason and Grant debunked at the Mishler(?) (going form memory here so I may have the wrong place) This was the light play from car headlights reflecting off a dish and bouncing up onto the theater ceiling in the form of a round light.
I would much rather see them operate in that fashion rather than what we've seen lately where every sound is a ghost (and half of them are Grant pretending he's a bird)
GHI…well, I've been much less impressed with their attempts to explain what they encounter. And this is getting worse as the shows continue. They did explain the ice and straw incident, but only in the analysis. As Revenant mentioned in that thread, they immediately jumped to the paranormal conclusion during the investigation and made no attempt to rationalize the movement at the time.
The debunk of the orbs in this episode was pretty half-hearted and somewhat flawed.
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