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10:40 am January 25, 2011
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Post edited 10:41 am – January 25, 2011 by Nosfer
The team goes over to the Netherlands in this episode. I hope they bring their medical staff with them and this time maybe they should hook up a portable EKG monitor to Susan so they can show us the evidence that Barry claims they have.
By the way, in case anyone thinks that GHI is being clever with their title of this episode…they're not, they are just ripping off the 1988 Dutch horror movie of the same title about a serial killer hiding in Amsterdam's canal system. Hmmm, wonder if they will be investigating the ghosts of movie murders?
I tried to watch an advance clip of it to let you know what to expect but I couldn't hear an Amsterdamned thing they were saying in it. I'm not sure it really matters, though, most of the conversations lately are not location specific and consist mostly of "wazzzats" "didju hear that" "bleeep" and "I'm being possessed"
They investigate a building owned by an entertainer (hmmm) in the town of Huissen. An interesting quote from a Dutch news source describes the scene as a normally quiet street all of a sudden cluttered with a large number of white vans and about 20 darkly-dressed paranormal investigators. Presumably this includes the camera crews but that's a fair number of sources of contamination when you have 20 people tromping around the place.
Most likely Britt will not be in this episode, raising the question of what do they do with the odd man (which doesn't really narrow it down in this case, but I'm going to say "Joe")…a team of three or do they bring the Bronx guy back. I hope not.
For a moment I had a vision of J&G driving in their van on their way to fix a leaky water chestnut, the camera mounted on the dash is pointed at them and Grant's cell phone rings. It's Barry:
Barry: Ay, we've gotten ourselves in a wee bit of a bind here. Ken you help us out?
Jason (dialing his own phone): Amy, pack your bags, you're on the International team for a while.
Amy (as Jason pulls the phone away from his ear and winces): Nooooooooooooooooooo!
If you have any respect left for the team, this video posted by Kris will likely change that, at least for certain members of the team:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..HCQMul9A8c
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4:13 pm January 25, 2011
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I don't know…they seem much more in their element.
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9:49 pm January 26, 2011
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Post edited 9:50 pm – January 26, 2011 by Nosfer
Ah, I see Britt…thought he only filmed 3 episodes, apparently not.
Reasons why the first client's girlfriend left him? Well, how about losing half a million Euros, keeping the grounds in that condition, living in a house that looks like it would fall over at the mere drop of a rat off the table…
Edited: Okay, part right…Britt was here for the first and now gone. And joy of joys they've brought back Scott. Why couldn't it have been Dan Akroyd.
So, did they not do all the Dutch ones at the same time? He was there the for the first episode but not the second…did he come back to the US for the interview? Odd that they wouldn't have filmed both of these one right after the other since they were at the place already.
Or did he go back to Europe after the interview, film the first of these and then everything hit the fan and he got yanked before they went to the second?
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10:05 pm January 26, 2011
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More hot pixels? "Energy formations"
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4:13 am January 27, 2011
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Nosfer said:
More hot pixels? "Energy formations"
*Puts his hand to his ear*
Hmmm…did you just hear some screaming coming from Australia's direction?
*Listens again*
It's like an EVP. I can barely make it out…but…that last one sounded like profanity…

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4:41 pm January 27, 2011
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It's ghosts…
In Barry's camera.
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3:25 pm January 28, 2011
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Post edited 3:29 pm – January 28, 2011 by Lindy
This is the most haunted place in the Netherlands and the client blames everything from him not being able to see his kids to the weather on it?
Nothing like building up the hype and then falling flat.
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5:54 pm January 28, 2011
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Lindy said:
This is the most haunted place in the Netherlands and the client blames everything from him not being able to see his kids to the weather on it?
Nothing like building up the hype and then falling flat.
Much like the building itself looks about to do! Sounded like a "give the place some publicity" episode or "make people feel sorry for the guy and maybe he'll get some sympathetic donors" episode. Surely Barry could have found a luck-stealing energy formation for him to blame his woes on.
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6:37 pm January 28, 2011
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Well, it is a spooky looking place. But no way would I want to live in something in that condition. I'd leave and take the kids, too. Some people have no common sense at all.
Another place with stories that should be able to be substantiated, but aren't. Four women hang themselves and there's no record detailing this? Hard to believe.
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3:37 am January 29, 2011
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Oubliette said:
Another place with stories that should be able to be substantiated, but aren't. Four women hang themselves and there's no record detailing this? Hard to believe.
Yes, that jumped out at me as well. Not only having no record of it…but it's very unusual.
Let's say, for argument's sake, that the story is true…four women hung themselves (I believe in the attic?…can't remember) in the same building. Perhaps at that time and in that culture, hanging was an "acceptable" form of suicide for women. But…
Let's throw our detective hats on for a moment. Four women…hanging themselves…same building. Some might accept that suicide angle. Me? I'd want to investigate the murder angle. Maybe one hung herself. Then…the location became…convenient…for the killer. Quiet location, someone already killed themselves there…and at that point in time, no forensics to determine cause of death beyond supposedly hanging. It would work out quite well for a serial murderer.
So…even if someone found a record of the four women hanging themselves…I would still view it with a skeptical eye…
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11:43 am January 29, 2011
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The fact that they seemed to have done no background investigation into the supposed suicides bothered me too. At one point Susan (I think) says something to the effect "I think you led the other women to kill themselves". Why? Is she just provoking willy-nilly? Is there a back story she knows but doesn't reveal?
For some reason I also had the impression that at least some of the suicides were very widespread in time, maybe a century or two apart. It seems reasonble to suppose that there is some veracity to a woman being hung or hanging herself in the attic at some date, maybe two, if one in despair copied a previous suicide. But four? That sounds more like an embellished folk tale.
I can't translate Dutch, but the "traumatised" owner looks pretty pleased with himself in this article about GHI's visit.
http://www.telegraaf.nl/prive/….._VS__.html
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11:57 am January 29, 2011
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A serial hanger? I suppose it's possible but the risk level is a lot higher than just a stabbing or strangling in a back alley. Would also have to be a time when the house was not occupied, unless it was the owner doing it which is not unheard of, but still…Bluebeard?
I'd treat this one as legend…no details. Four women hanged themselves in the attic. But no indication of who they were, it wasn't like there was any information of whether they were people who lived there or anything, was there? Just "four women" Over what time frame (this would be important when determining if a serial hanger was involved) Did this happen over the course of two years or a hundred. The former would be a lot more likely to be from a serial hanger than the latter. They were probably all cleaning maids "Ack, he wants me to clean THIS mess? Where's some rope?"
People keep finding these women hanged in the attic and nothing further is known?
"Oi, we got another one…okay, cut her down."
"Where were we…care for another glass of de Kuyper?"
"Thanks, looks like a good tulip crop this year"
"Yep, I hear Maarten got 20 bushels…what was that?"
(looking in the attic) "Oh man, how'd she get up there?"
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1:17 pm January 29, 2011
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Post edited 1:45 pm – January 29, 2011 by Axel Olrik
I agree "folk tale" in regard to the suicides. The reported drowning of the townspeople who sought shelter there during a catastrophic flood also seems like it would be historically verifiable…although in the Netherlands certainly credible.
I can stumble my way through German, but the spelling in Dutch presents an insurmountable barrier. Still one of the links in the article I cited above, is certainly suggestive (ummm..it seems that the highly entrepreneurial owner's intention is to open a "Ghost Hotel") and Johan Vlemmix looks particularly pleased with himself…wonder if the previous owner, whose interview supported the house's haunted status, still has a piece of the action?
http://www.telegraaf.nl/prive/…..tel__.html
Yikes! I got a partial translation….he is offering to let people stay for 100 euros a night…the sleeping accomodations? Coffins.
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1:25 pm January 29, 2011
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Axel Olrik said:
http://www.telegraaf.nl/prive/…..tel__.html
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/tra…..=Translate
damn web translations only make it harder to understand than the original text.
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1:47 pm January 29, 2011
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Thanks, Awaba! 
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4:39 am January 30, 2011
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Nosfer said:
A serial hanger?
What? No.
Kill the women in whatever manner (breaking the neck, poison, etc) and then hanging them to make it look like suicide.
Serial hanger…
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9:27 am January 30, 2011
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Awaba said:
Axel Olrik said:
http://www.telegraaf.nl/prive/…..tel__.html
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/tra…..=Translate
damn web translations only make it harder to understand than the original text.
LOL! Maybe it was better pre-translation:
"For this reason Vlemmix a large number of has ordered doodskisten.
People can stay there for 100 euro including, but or in a deathly
travelling box. And exactly midnight will call we spirits, and twist
glaasje. Also tussendoor happens there of everything."
Right. Gotcha, I think. I always wanted to twist glaasje. Or watch the tussenddor. We really do need a Dutch translator on this one.
A deathly travelling box. that's one description I've never heard. One thing for sure, this use of GHI, like so many places GH visits, looks to be out for publicity and attracting tourists. The guy looks very pleased with himself. Well, he should be, having gotten his place on TV where millions (well, maybe thousands) of rich US tourists might be interested in visiting and sleeping in a deathly travelling box.
Geez, I'm getting so cynical. Just tired of watching episodes that have no substance and seem to be used as advertising plugs.
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8:48 pm January 31, 2011
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Revenant said:
Nosfer said:
A serial hanger?
What? No.
Kill the women in whatever manner (breaking the neck, poison, etc) and then hanging them to make it look like suicide.
Serial hanger…
Actually this is more what I was referring to 
 
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