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GHI S02E15 Margam Castle / Ostrich Inn

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5:23 pm
July 26, 2010


Learjet

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A couple of things of note about this episode. No GHA graduates this time? I thought they would be regulars.

What a huge layout of meters Rob has on the table! No ghost however takes Rob up to try and activate them and the meters remain silent.

New investigator Scott Tepperman claims he has something grab him by the leg. Can anyone think of an explanation for this? "It was unmistakable", he says.

OD'd on EMF

5:42 pm
July 26, 2010


Nosfer

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Leg in the bed. Notice how they don't let us see that, but we then have a camera right at hand going into the room to see the disheveled bed. If they thought it was anything at all there would have been footage of the leg, there were certainly enough cameras around that they could have had their pick as to which one to use. Suspeeeshus?

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6:05 pm
July 26, 2010


Learjet

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Ah yes leg in the bed. I forgot about that one.

Have they made number 1 on the sus list yet?

OD'd on EMF

1:23 pm
July 27, 2010


CrowTRobot

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Headcams…….Headcams.

Yet again, everyone sees something……………………except us - the audience.

Oh, and as for the 'leg'. There may have actually been someone there, but was awoken and, not reailizing what was going on – or suddenly remembering, "Oh my God. Was that tonight?", hid. Far-fetched, I know. But what's the alternative? (a) A ghost's leg or (b) a lie.

And as for Robb's bag;  I know I should respect that he's trying different tools/machines/whatever; still, I can't help but find him sitting at a table with all his toys…. funny.

He reminds me of the old Felix the Cat cartoon: "Felix the cat, the wonderful wonderful cat, whenever he gets in a fix, he reaches into his bag of tricks."

EDIT: However, if he will add headcams to his bag, I will stop laughing.

I….I'm thinking.

2:23 pm
July 27, 2010


Nosfer

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Given that they left the clip in and did not actually bother to go in and show the foot (not a leg, sorry about that!) the very first time, I am quite suspicious here. I'm doubtful of (a). If it were JUST a foot as Paul said, they would have hauled cameras in there faster than you could shake a tripod. I would also hope that the investigator would know the difference between just a foot and a regular sleeping human (full-body human that is) At some point in that scene, I fear that (b) happened. Either in that there was more than just a foot during the first look or that there was just nothing and the rest of the scene shows a play-along for drama.

Barry: "That one is Scott's bedroom. And he's not there."

To me that says there shouldn't have been a living person in there. Certainly Scott (who just took them on the tour) would recall that the investigation was going on that night and if it was his room, who else would be in there? So Crow is right, far-fetched. Means we are probably down to the alternative two options.

Barry: "Have a check in that room" (Scott's room, where they are hearing things from) "See if there's anyone there…just to make sure."

Paul gets up and goes over to the door.

We see Paul _shutting_ the door.

Paul: "But somebody is in there. I just saw a foot."

So, I wonder how you just see a foot (under the covers presumably?) and not notice that the rest of the person is there. When Paul went to look, he took no camera and had no devices so he did not have the aid of any night vision equipment. How then (if the room he was looking in from was also dark) could he see _anything_?

No visual evidence from his first look, but very prominent footage from the peek when the bed appears disheveled. I'm leaning more and more toward (b)

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8:17 pm
July 27, 2010


CrowTRobot

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I do want to add this: normally, I would have added (c) mistaken on the first look in. However, I don't know if we can  consider this option since Paul is, or at least tries to convince us he is, absolutely positive he saw a foot/leg. In fact, so certain, that he is willing to consider it belonging to a ghost.

And Nosfer, I'd forgotten it was the guide's bedroom. Still, could have been someone else in there that was not aware of GHIs presence (yes, it would be hard to imagine someone not getting THAT memo). Now, who or why…….we can only make wild, unsubstantiated guesses – which I'm not above doing…..but won't here….unless you beat it out of me.

I really don't want to think the new guy went to the "Grant's School of Conjuring Ghosts for Fun and Profit".

I….I'm thinking.

8:30 pm
July 27, 2010


Stephen

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Just got the Margam Castle half up. Sorry, these things take me a bit.

Stephen the Friendly Skeptic

10:28 pm
July 27, 2010


The Doctor

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That foot business was really strange -

Barry says he has Paul take a look to see if everything's OK – when during an investigation do they ever look to see if "everythings OK" ?   Just what would be "not OK " ?

When Paul reports he sees a presumably human foot, Barry sends him back again to "Just open the door and see if everyone's out of the flat"     Did he not hear Paul just say he saw a foot ? Did he suspect it was Casper's foot, yet he decided to just keep sitting on the couch ?   Paul is not carrying a camera at the time, so we are treated to yet another production edit of the door opening and the now empty bed.

7:46 am
July 28, 2010


Nosfer

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When you look at the ratio of missed evidence to that of captured evidence, it speaks poorly of certain abilities across the whole franchise. I will admit to and allow for some bad luck to creep in and miss a few things. But if things actually are happening so often, you'd think they'd be a bit more prepared and be thinking "Okay, we missed the shot of a lifetime last time because someone didn't take a camera with him, I better take the camera this time" Haven't really seen that happen. Barry (for all the things he's allegedly seen) should have stopped Paul instantly and told him to take a camera.

By this many seasons they should be prepared for most contingencies and should be anticipating these things. Hearing sounds where you shouldn't? Take a camera and document what is there. That's really pretty basic when you think about it! But…what happens instead? Paul tiptoes to the door, barely peeks in with no means of recording any evidence.

I'd like to give the benefit of the doubt, but I think we have two options. (a) Incompetence as investigators or (b) Some embellishment of what is actually happening. There is a (c), too, but it's a much less kinder version of (b)

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1:55 pm
July 28, 2010


Nosfer

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Learjet said:

No GHA graduates this time? I thought they would be regulars.


Ya know, if I were Adam I'd be reading every bit of fine print on that contract!

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11:50 pm
July 28, 2010


Stephen

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Finally got the second half up: Ostrich Inn

Stephen the Friendly Skeptic

3:29 pm
July 29, 2010


Nosfer

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CrowTRobot said:

Headcams…….Headcams.


Other than that one time each with Britt and Kris (or is it Brit?) I don't think we've seen a repeat of the headcams. They wear head-flashlights (Paul(?) in The Wolf's Lair) so why not step it up a notch…these guys are supposed to be cutting-edge of technology, or so they claim. I can see it now, though. Headcam strapped on, wild claims of a full-bodied apparition…and either the battery goes dead or the lens cap will be still on.

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9:16 pm
July 29, 2010


CrowTRobot

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I know we SVs used to beat the headcam horse to death; but after not watching GH/GHI for a while, it just seemed inexcusable that I tune in and they're still claiming to see shadows that never turn up on camera.

Yea, battery drain, it's a dog……thank goodness SyFy has those special super duper ghost drain proof cameras so we don't miss any of GH/GHI riveting drain scenes.

Lens cap incident during the reveal: "Well, we had caught a full-bodied apparition on camera; unfortunately, a ghost had put the cap back on the camera so he couldn't be caught. There's a theory that…."

I….I'm thinking.

6:21 pm
July 31, 2010


Nosfer

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002QGSYZ4/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B002KR0TY8&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1TDY684BFHR5JYT72CNH

Full Hi-Def, too. 4 hours recording time. Now all they need is to go IR with it so they can do their "in the dark" investigations.

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8:57 am
August 1, 2010


CrowTRobot

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And for only $300. Reviews were mixed, but mostly positive, though no one mentioned how good it was at picking up alledged shadows of spirits in a pitch-black room in the middle of the night; still, I say we all pitch in a few bucks and send one to the gang. THEN when someone says, "Did you see that?" we can all say, "No. We didn't. But then again it's pitch-black in there."

EDIT: We can include a card in the box that says, "Hi. We're Skeptical Viewers. We're here to help."

I….I'm thinking.

3:27 pm
August 4, 2010


Liz M

NY

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Did anyone notice that during the evidence review, Barry (I think) makes mention that he reviewed all the footage related to the ghost foot – cross referencing or something?  Right before commercial he teases with "I found something very interesting" (maybe not an exact quote, but that was the gist).  When they come back from the commercial, no mention is made of Barry's detective work!  I even went back thinking I had blinked and missed it, but there was nothing.  I thought maybe they were going to call shenanigans on the manager, but no.

Oh, and I think the bedroom belonged to the cook who also lives there.  In the final interview the manager/ tour guide said something like he was relieved that the ghost foot wasn't in his room.  Or did I misunderstand him?

3:47 pm
August 4, 2010


Nosfer

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No, it looks like it was just a tease that went unfulfilled. They come back after commercial and go right to the reveal and nothing is mentioned about it. I tried looking through the bonus scenes over at SciFi but they are labeled pretty poorly so you can't really even tell what episode they are from but the titles didn't jump at me nor did I see anything "interesting" or "foot-related" in the ones I watched. You're right, the room belonged to his cook/chef and he said they both were gone that night.

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