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S01E05 – Blame Game (St Augustine Lighthouse)

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2:14 pm
December 9, 2009


Nosfer

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The next to last episode for the season is called "Blame Game” …in case anyone missed the thread title :) Blame Game. I see a trend setting up here of designing titles to elicit the most viewership, drawing people in in hopes of seeing controversy, and retaining those of us already watching who are hoping to see someone get his/her comeuppance and get booted. And at this point it doesn't really matter who gets booted, they can all go as far as I'm concerned. Personally I hope its Craig but, being the Executive Producer, I think his position may be secure :(

We will be treated to an investigation featuring another previously-visited location. This time we will be going to the St Augustine Lighthouse down in Florida. This place, like Eastern State Penitentiary, is not only a repeat, but a three-peat. Interestingly enough, this is one of the few places they’ve investigated that is still unresolved for me, and I welcome another investigation. Not that I’m expecting anything to be resolved by it, but I am a fan of revisiting places that have potential. Also interesting is the fact that, to my knowledge, the second investigation of St Augustine by GH has never been re-aired. If it has, it’s one that I’ve missed.

Blame Game. Shall we speculate, my friends? Does this center around a blamer, or a blamee? Last week we had Jane being the blamer, or to use Steve’s words, the bus-thrower-underer. Or to use my words, the female canidae. It has been suggested that she is a Pilgrim plant (or a TAPS plant, or just a plain ol’ rhododendron) and there are some merits to those suggestions as her actions are not the ones of a person who is being careful not to get her butt tossed off a program for being a homicidal bus chucker.

We have an opportunity to see some more Brian digs, and I expect a highlight reel of the earlier investigations that shows Brian hoofing his way up and down the stairs of the lighthouse several times because he didn’t put the wireless audio high enough, then put it too high, and then something about some batteries in it. Of course, since those were mostly the result of conflicting instructions from Jason and Grant, they may omit those scenes.

In the second investigation, Kris Williams managed to get herself stuck in the basement of the house and needed to be rescued. That desperate calling for help made for an excellent and dramatic lead up to…yes…a commercial break. Why the cameraman with her could not extricate her from the room is one of those things that we’re just not supposed to think about! Possibly a Union rule?

The first investigation of the Lighthouse provided the most evidence, showing a figure moving quite quickly up the stairs several times, and also peaking over the landing rails. This footage has never been satisfactorily debunked to me, although various claims have been made that it is a cameraman with a ball cap or that it is actually footage of Jason and Grant themselves, captured from the static camera at the base of the Lighthouse. Allegations have also been made that they unscrewed the bulb of the motion sensor light so as to perpetrate this fraud. All those, to me, appear to be baseless, unsupported speculation.

The other piece of evidence was in the form of audio of a female saying “Help me.” This was also heard realtime by the investigators so does not qualify as an EVP (An EVP is a disem…..). There is always the possibility that this was simply the host obliviously watching The Fly.

If memory serves, the second investigation provided less evidence, but in the end they did show some thermal hit that appeared to be leaping across the top of the lighthouse. Whether this was a large owl or not is unknown, but whatever it was, it did not set off the motion sensor. Unless they unplugged it again!

I’m looking forward to the location, I’m not really looking forward to more “he did, she did, they did” back and forths between the trainees. And I still wish Steve would come right out and delegate command to one of the trainees and have him/her actually RUN the setup rather than having them all run around with no one in charge.

I’m waiting for the call to “Go Dark”, watching the montage of lights being extinguished, and then hearing the frantic calls drifting over the water as the SS Kerflugatz runs aground on the rocks below.

So, sit back, grab a bowl of your favorite snack, and enjoy. Oh, and be sure to keep an eye out for the Orb floating around wearing the Groucho Marx glasses :)

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3:04 pm
December 9, 2009


alicat

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Great questions and set up Nosfer.  This should be an interesting episode with Steve's fear of heights.  Since we know everyone stays until the end, it will be interesting to see how they investigate and are evaluated for the one final exam prize next week…. GHI Investigator.

4:46 pm
December 9, 2009


Revenant

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Nosfer said: "I’m not really looking forward to more “he did, she did, they did” back and forths between the trainees."

Hmmm…well, what else could it be?  None of the contestants have the strength to stand up and argue with Stango, so…they will nip at each other…kind of like puppies or young children do.  And, it's not even "good" nipping or arguing.  It isn't good TV.  I just don't see the point in this show.

Anyway, good post Nosfer.

(A personal side-note:  The girl with the black hair, whatever her name is, reminds me of someone that worked for me a few years back.  It's weird for me to watch the show because of that.  If it weren't for the jet-black hair and fake goth edge, they could be twins.  Well…the girl that I knew was also quite brilliant.  I'm not sure if I can make that claim about the one on the show.  Maybe she is…and she just isn't showing it…in the least…kind of like the rest of them…)

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4:57 pm
December 9, 2009


Nosfer

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Revenant said:

Hmmm…well, what else could it be?  None of the contestants have the strength to stand up and argue with Stango, so…they will nip at each other…kind of like puppies or young children do.


Yep! Not much else is there! I'm waiting for:

"Steeeeeve, Carl hit me baaackk"
"Did not"
"Did too"
"Did not"
"Did too"
"Well you started it!"

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10:48 pm
December 9, 2009


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I don't know about anyone else here but I just wish Jane would up and disappear.  She's annoying as **** and ready to cry at the drop of a hat.  As a woman, she's flat out an embarassment.  If she's trying to prove she can act by appearing on GHA, somebody needs to put her out of her misery as quickly as possible.

11:39 pm
December 9, 2009


Revenant

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Nosfer said: "The next to last episode for the season is called "Blame Game” …in case anyone missed the thread title :) Blame Game. I see a trend setting up here of designing titles to elicit the most viewership, drawing people in in hopes of seeing controversy, and retaining those of us already watching who are hoping to see someone get his/her comeuppance and get booted."

I…um…wow.  I don't quite believe that they actually know what the word "blame" means.  Jane did not "blame" Chris for anything.  She accused  him of doing something, or really…not doing something.  And in actuality, it wasn't really the fireworks that the "Blame Game" would imply.  These titles are just pathetic.

I said this in another post, but I just don't get the premise of the show.  In almost every reality show where contestants are eliminated, the format is usually one show, one contestant gone.  We're into episode number five, of a six episode season, and they have eliminated two people, yet brought two more in.  Um…I am somewhat unclear as to how this totally new and utterly bizarre format works.

Another thing…anyone who has watched a reality show with eliminations knows that if a contestant is brought in late…they are instantly the "outsider" who "doesn't deserve to win because they haven't been here from the start."  This is human nature in a competitive environment.  The first addition, I wrote in another post that I believed that she was a plant.  That could still be true as her background suggests.  Yet, the addition of the new guy…with one episode left no less…I have no idea in how that plays.  I've never seen it before and it doesn't even come close to making sense.  Yet, silly me…this is TAPS.  It should be expected.

Lastly, in my previous post in this thread, I mentioned Susan (I couldn't remember her name at the time).  Something struck me while watching the show.  I noticed that she has a slight lisp.  It was probably worse at a younger age.  My heart went out to her when I saw her name…Susan Slaughter.  Three syllables that begin with an "S."  It must have been torture for her to say her own name.  It may still be.  So…she is now my new favorite on the show and I have nominated myself as General in her campaign for victory.  I want her to win.  Anyone who wants someone other than her to win now…is completely wrong and should be banished from the SV website.  Any argument over the matter and I will show why I keep plastic sheets and a shovel in the trunk of my car.  Yell 

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12:40 am
December 10, 2009


Learjet

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I actually want Jane to win because she is such a nice person. Wink No seriously, her addition to TAPS would make the show soo much more interesting!

Learjet now jumps in his CA18DET powered S12 coupe to escape from Revenant. Foot in mouth

OD'd on EMF

1:51 am
December 10, 2009


Revenant

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"Learjet now jumps in his CA18DET powered S12 coupe to escape from Revenant."

*Standing at the security check-point at the airport*

Security Agent: "Let's see here.  Plastic sheets, a collapsible shovel, and a toothbrush.  May I ask if your trip to Australia is for business or for pleasure?"

*Revenant looks at the security agent with a steely gaze under a furrowed brow*

Revenant: "Business.  Very brief business…"

Surprised  Laughing  Innocent

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6:13 am
December 10, 2009


Angelayo1970

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Revenant said:

Lastly, in my previous post in this thread, I mentioned Susan (I couldn't remember her name at the time).  Something struck me while watching the show.  I noticed that she has a slight lisp.  It was probably worse at a younger age.  My heart went out to her when I saw her name…Susan Slaughter.  Three syllables that begin with an "S."  It must have been torture for her to say her own name.  It may still be.  So…she is now my new favorite on the show and I have nominated myself as General in her campaign for victory.  I want her to win.  Anyone who wants someone other than her to win now…is completely wrong and should be banished from the SV website.  Any argument over the matter and I will show why I keep plastic sheets and a shovel in the trunk of my car.  Yell 


Well Rev, I'm frankly hoping that the season ends with ALL of them spontaneously combusting during set-up, cutting to a shot of a still charred and smoking Steve saying "There's this theory about spontaneous human combustion…".

Thuthan Thlaughter…hmmm…reminds me of the "Baby talk, baby talk! It's a wonder you can walk!" episode of The Brady Bunch. Wonder whatever happened to the kid who played Buddy…

"In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." -Galileo Galilei

7:32 am
December 10, 2009


Nosfer

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I'm not sure about there only being one show left…They keep referring tio this as the FIRST Semester, implying that they could drag this out for a while.

Jane has to be a plant, I just can't imagine such attitude being tolerated repeatedly, especially when Steve has even had 'interviews' talking about it.

As far as Steve getting on them for investigating outside and not knowing the reports, why weren't the grounds included as part of the 'tour'

Could they also be setting us up to think that Jane is invincible, the obvious one to go but she always squeaks through and then (forgive me Ghost Lab) BAM! they kick her off when we least expect?

Oh, and that little revelation by Chris The Remaining…about "sometimes I don't even ask permission to hunt there I just go in" (or words to that effect) when he was talking about his previous investigations…not the role model I want for ghost hunting.

Oh, and Rev…Susan is definitely a strong candidate, afterall, she's already got the tattoos, but I'm NOT rooting for her…my money is on that Orb in Groucho Marx glasses that was barely noticeable in last night's episode owing to it's stealth and cunning :)

Oh, and when Susan and someone else were outside and talking about people hearing a different language, didn't she say something about wondering if some Spanish might stir things up? I don't recall hearing any Spanish in their EVP session….

Oh, and wasn't the solution to Jason and Grant's issues with the family just to give them more money? Wouldn't that have worked for Chris The Original?

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10:16 am
December 10, 2009


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It's interesting that Steve/Tango said that "one or two of you will be gone", when  only one would be gone.  There were obviously two prime candidates at the end, particularly with the last minute bus chucking, so logically both should have been booted.  This is obviously pre-staged to keep the suspense (or whatever) going no matter how illogical it is. 

I really liked the new guy, I thought he was relaxed, real sharp,  used a lot of common sense, and a good team player, but who knows what is in store as the pre-scripted story unfolds.

10:48 am
December 10, 2009


Nosfer

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That say one or two so that they can keep the suspense going right into and even after the commercial break because that way we don't know if (A) or (B) or (A AND B) will be gotten rid of.

Jane should have gone, too. Chris S is good, but I do not like his tact as he described it in an off comment about not asking permission and basically trespassing to do some of his past hunts. That doesn't set well with me and is a major strike against him.

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11:05 am
December 10, 2009


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Nosfer said:

 Chris S is good, but I do not like his tact as he described it in an off comment about not asking permission and basically trespassing to do some of his past hunts. That doesn't set well with me and is a major strike against him.


Yes, that was kind of odd, I'd like to hear a further explanation from him.  Hopefully it's innocuous like going into graveyards after the main gate is closed, but it was an odd admission.  Perhaps he'll get connected with a legit ghost hunting team and his trespassing days are over.

11:13 am
December 10, 2009


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Once again basically no evidence at one of the most haunted locations in the country.

Interesting that they identify a suspected EVP saying "get out" as coming from the crew – perhaps the noise that they hear is also coming from the crew ?  What procedures are in place to keep crew voices/noises from infiltrating as EVP's ?

Why do they setup two Toshiba DVD recorders at central command ?   I can see them being used during the review ( but they don't seem to be ) so they can copy over the evidence to present to the client ( which they don't )

Too bad they don't let the audience vote – Steve would be back playing at Theodores full time.

11:45 am
December 10, 2009


Learjet

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Nosfer said:

Jane has to be a plant, I just can't imagine such attitude being tolerated repeatedly, especially when Steve has even had 'interviews' talking about it.


Jane has to be a plant. I'm thinking Cactus.

OD'd on EMF

11:46 am
December 10, 2009


Revenant

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Nosfer said: "I'm not sure about there only being one show left…They keep referring tio this as the FIRST Semester, implying that they could drag this out for a while."

Yes, that's an excellent point.

And that got me to thinking.  The goal of the show is to supposedly find "new blood" for GH.  The existing teams are J&G, Kris and Amy, and Steve and Tango.  Brit is the wild card (with Dustin filling in while Steve and Tango are gone).  So, the two questions that must be asked are what is the true goal of the show and what role is Brit to play on GH?

It makes more sense to me to bring in two contestants.  In this manner, they come in as an established pair.  Yet, where does that leave Brit?  If he is going to continue to be on GH, then he needs a full-time partner, after all, that is the nature of the show. 

So…what is the true goal of the show?  Is it to find Brit a partner?  Or is it to bring one new person into the fold per year?  If the latter is true, then how long are they envisioning this show going on and how many people does GH actually need for the show?

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11:56 am
December 10, 2009


alicat

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Revenant said:

Nosfer said: "I'm not sure about there only being one show left…They keep referring tio this as the FIRST Semester, implying that they could drag this out for a while."

Yes, that's an excellent point.

And that got me to thinking.  The goal of the show is to supposedly find "new blood" for GH.  The existing teams are J&G, Kris and Amy, and Steve and Tango.  Brit is the wild card (with Dustin filling in while Steve and Tango are gone).  So, the two questions that must be asked are what is the true goal of the show and what role is Brit to play on GH?

It makes more sense to me to bring in two contestants.  In this manner, they come in as an established pair.  Yet, where does that leave Brit?  If he is going to continue to be on GH, then he needs a full-time partner, after all, that is the nature of the show. 

So…what is the true goal of the show?  Is it to find Brit a partner?  Or is it to bring one new person into the fold per year?  If the latter is true, then how long are they envisioning this show going on and how many people does GH actually need for the show?


Revenant,

I posted this in a previous GHA thread that per Pilgrim's press release:  "By passing the course, students can graduate into investigating on Ghost Hunters or Ghost Hunters International."

12:58 pm
December 10, 2009


Revenant

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Alicat said:  "I posted this in a previous GHA thread that per Pilgrim's press release:  "By passing the course, students can graduate into investigating on Ghost Hunters or Ghost Hunters International."

I didn't read that post, so thank you for posting it here, Alicat.  A couple of things on that…

First, do I take Pilgrim press releases as glimmering gems of truth bathed in the light of honesty?  Um…not so much.

But…let's say it's true.  That contestants can become a part of either the GH or GHI teams.  Then I have a problem with it.  Where's Robb in all this then?

If I were Robb, I'd be kind of angry that I haven't been seen in any of the episodes.  As "leader" of the GHI team, I'd like to have a little say in who is on my team.  Even if it's only for appearance sake.  Just a shot with J&G at TAPs HQ while taking the conference call from Steve.

So as it stands, someone wins GHA while being run by Steve and Tango.  J&G decide they don't want the person for GH, so they hand them off to GHI?  That doesn't paint Robb in a very flattering light.  And isn't that just showing everyone how GHI is a "second class" version of GH instead of standing on their own?

If that press release is true, then Robb can't be too thrilled with it…

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1:05 pm
December 10, 2009


The Doctor

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Revenant said:

If I were Robb, I'd be kind of angry that I haven't been seen in any of the episodes.  As "leader" of the GHI team, I'd like to have a little say in who is on my team. 


According to Donna L, the first time they met Robb was at the airport leaving for Europe.

Unless he gets production credit, I doubt he has any say in who is cast for GHI.

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