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11:51 am
December 2, 2009
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Nosfer
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What a title…this will certainly distinguish this particular episode from all the rest. Not sure which cadet or instructor this coveted title is referring to, but maybe that's all part of the mystery.
"Steve and Tango test the recruits' ability to deal with unexpected circumstances and inner-team conflict when they pair them up with unfamiliar partners and task them with searching Buffalo Central Terminal for signs of paranormal activity."
Back to another previously investigated location. Actually I do not have much of a problem with doing this, in fact I wish GH would go back to the more interesting places for repeat investigations, too. All three of them.
Going to a place that they have investigated prior makes sense as the "instructors" would be familiar with it…always a good thing for the instructor to know a bit about the place, otherwise, not much to pass along.
Pairing the cadets up with unfamiliar partners. I wonder if this will mean additional cadets coming on the scene? Dare I hope that a few more of these trainees might get booted? Given the title, I have some hope.
Here is a link to the original GH investigation of the Buffalo Central Terminal in case any of you wish to reacquaint yourselves with the locale and the findings:
http://www.skepticalviewer.com/2008/10/01/gh-buffalo-central-terminal/
They made a big todo last week about Brian's "Dude Run" scene…I wonder if equal recognition will be given to Grant who, if memory serves, scurried down a ladder because he thought something was coming at him?
Edit: Grant's ladder issue was not at the Buffalo Central. Still a Brianesq moment, though, but since it didn't take place here, no reason for Steve/Tango to do a clip show of it :)
Buffalo featured the FLIR catch that wasn't seen on the IR camera…maybe they will bring a stronger illuminator this time!
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1:37 pm
December 2, 2009
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Orion
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I think I know of the episode you're referring to with Grant. I'm not entirely sure, but wasn't that a ladder to an attic? To be fair, I could see him scurrying back down if he was face level with the floor and thought an animal was up there, especially with the threat of rabies. With Harnois though, it was definitely a "spook" that spooked him.
But what would GH (in general) be if it weren't for drama queens? It's where 90% of the "excitement" comes from: fear of spiders, flying, heights, Jason ;) false starts, pranks, infighting, technical problems, etc.. Only about 10% of the show actually shows anything paranormal (and of course much of that is questionable data)
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1:47 pm
December 2, 2009
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Grant's scurrying was at Buffalo Central…the link I give above. I doubt in either case (Brian or Grant) there was anything to what was actually seen…Grant a shadow or imagination or just being Grant. If they are going to accept that sort of reaction from him, a flee reaction should be acceptable from Brian. What's the mantra they use (but not allowed to be applied to Brian) "When in Doubt, Get the Hell Out?" Hmmmm
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1:53 pm
December 2, 2009
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Orion
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Different one then.
Gee, that's a nice double standard they have!
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2:18 pm
December 2, 2009
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Orion, I think you are referring to the ex-funeral home , now neighborhood museum.
Think it was the Iron Station? episode.
The one that had Tango cussing in the attic.
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2:38 pm
December 2, 2009
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Orion
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I don't think it was that one. It was an old ep with J & G, in a private home, going up a pulldown ladder to an attic. You know the kind I mean?
Right next to the ladder, in the hallway on the floor underneath the attic (can't remember if it was a single or double floor home) was a bathroom, and the faucet turned on by itself.
I think I sort of remember them coming down that ladder in that ep pretty quickly too. It's a fuzzy memory though.
But honestly, I get far more entertainment out of reading the reviews here than watching the actual episodes.
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2:40 pm
December 2, 2009
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You know, I think you're right on that one. The station was a bit big to have an attic like that! The funeral home was where Grant came down the steps when faced with a "shadow"
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5:39 pm
December 2, 2009
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It was the Iron Island museum.
And yes…he was a big wimp…
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11:17 pm
December 2, 2009
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Alright, I need someone to set me straight…
In the last episode, Jane appeared.
1) She claimed to know how to use the FLIR. It appeared that she didn't. She was used as an example of "telling the truth."
2) When confronted at the end of the show, she cried, left the group, and returned to apologize.
This episode:
1) She rolls Karl "under the bus" about the placement of a camera.
2) She helps to debunk a light used by Steve and Tango. She is not thrown by it for a moment and almost seems to know instantly what it is.
3) While reviewing the evidence, she doesn't even stay in the same part of the camper as the rest of the contestants.
So….is this Jane person a real contestant on the show? Or…is she a plant? Maybe I'm just being paranoid. Maybe it's just the way the show is being edited. Maybe I'm just way off base here and seeing things that aren't there. It just seems to me that all the contestants are relatively the same and are all acting the same way…except for her. She even seems a bit older than the rest of them as well, but then again, I've mostly seen her in night-vision, so it's hard to tell.
Thoughts on this?
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6:35 am
December 3, 2009
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I have to agree Revenant. It's almost to perfect to be believed. She comes in, stirs the pot and then stays. What is with that? Although I'm not sure she really threw him under the bus, her "B" attitude really needed an adjustment. Please, you can't tell me she didn't know she wasn't being filmed or that she wasn't being monitored by Steve and Tango. After thinking back on it, it was just too "planned". I almost choked when both her and Karl (?) said they had made peace with it. Right. I did have to give Karl credit though. He stayed cool and just did his thing, explained why he said what he did and it made perfect sense. I actually wanted to throttle the woman.
I think the title and set up of the show were merely to cause interest in what would have been a rather dull show because frankly, it was basically a throw away and not of any interest other than the contention between Jane and Karl. These shows always need to have some tension amongst the group and Pilgrim, starting off with Survivor, has shown this to a proven element to drive a show. It keeps you tuned in to see what will happen next. I don't think you would have had it with the current cast and that's why she's there. She's almost the equivalent of Brian Harnois although I never saw Brian cry.
By the way Tango, if you are reading this, way to go! Thanks a lot with the Jersey girl slam. Oubliette, we need to talk! Sheesh!
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11:57 am
December 3, 2009
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Revenant
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Thanks, Alicat. For some reason, I thought I was the only one thinking along these lines. I don't know, maybe she is a real contestant and simply brought in to spice up the show knowing full well that she would cause problems or "drama."
And that's another thing about this show…I'm really not getting the premise. And if this has been discussed before, I apologize. I haven't looked at every post about this show yet. Anyway, in most reality-based shows like this, the contestants vie for a prize, usually money. The show starts, hi-jinks ensue, someone wins, they get the money and walk away. This prize is somewhat different. They are joining an established team of paranormal investigators.
Now…what can any of the current contestants bring to GH skill-wise? As we've all seen, not much. And by saying "not much" I believe that I'm being kind since the answer truly is "nothing." So really, it comes down to personality and who would fit in best with the current members of GH. It's simply a glorified popularity contest.
With that in mind…let's get back to Jane. Is she the prefect fit for GH? Would she seemlessly get along with everyone and not cause any problems? By what we've been allowed to see, I would say that it's highly doubtful. So again, the question of whether or not she's a plant arises. Either placed by TAPS simply to test the other contestants or by Pilgrim to add drama to the show in an effort to boost ratings. Either way…there's just something dishonest about it.
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1:34 pm
December 3, 2009
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Revenant said:
So….is this Jane person a real contestant on the show? Or…is she a plant? Thoughts on this?
Looks like she's already cashing in -
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270490839944
Since her SyFy bio says she had assisted TAPS in investigations, odds are she did not go through the normal application process.
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1:36 pm
December 3, 2009
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Orion
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I'm not sure she's a plant. If she were an actress, I would say yes, but she's really been a paranormal investigator for 2 years. She's with New Jersey Paranormal: http://www.nnjpr.org/profiles.htm you can see her profile near the bottom of this page.
She's not coming across as anything other than a total bitch on this show, quite frankly. I can't imagine her agreeing to do that to her public image, but who knows? That said, I wouldn't be surprised if she is in on some things, which is cheating on the others. I think pilgrim wants two women on the show at all costs, and they already got rid of Heathyr. Personally I like Susan, I hope she stays. She asked the best questions during the walkthrough, and had some good ideas. Interesting that we haven't seen any further empathic outbursts from her, however.
BTW, alicat, in regards to Tango's jersey remark, I don't think he said "Jersey girl", specifically.. he just said "she's from Jersey". Tango's from Jersey too, so it was kinda a self-deprecating joke. So am I, and I got a chuckle out of it anyway.
Karl surprised me on this one. He handled that whole thing with applomb. My opinion of him went up quite a bit. Ben seems to be gaining more confidence too.
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2:34 pm
December 3, 2009
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Orion,
Just an FYI, I am New Jersey born and bred. That is why I made the remark I did.  Dave originally is from around my neck of the woods but has moved North.
If you check the group she belongs to, they are "friends" with Bruce and Dave Tango. There is a very definite TAPS connection here before GHA.
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3:03 pm
December 3, 2009
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Orion
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alicat said:
Orion,
Just an FYI, I am New Jersey born and bred. That is why I made the remark I did. Dave originally is from around my neck of the woods but has moved North.
If you check the group she belongs to, they are "friends" with Bruce and Dave Tango. There is a very definite TAPS connection here before GHA.
I know. North, Central, or South? I'm sorta south but right next to the Rancocas creek, off the Delaware. Oubliette is south.
Well, that explains how she got on GHA. Funny that Tango shows no particular affiliation w/ her on the show.
I also noticed something odd.. on the taps forums (18+) there's no section yet for discussing GHA. Wonder why.
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3:08 pm
December 3, 2009
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Yes. LOL I know where Oubliette is from. I'm nearer you as a matter of fact. See, you noticed that Jersey girl thing too. It's just a Jersey thing. Like it would be a South Philly thing. That's why I mentioned Oubliette and I getting together and taking Tango to task. 
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3:48 pm
December 3, 2009
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Orion
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Yeah, but we're from Jersey.. Tango and Jane are from "Joisey". lol
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3:50 pm
December 3, 2009
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Orion said:
Yeah, but we're from Jersey.. Tango and Jane are from "Joisey". lol
And yet another sore spot! LOL Absolutely! LOL
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3:52 pm
December 3, 2009
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Revenant
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The Doctor said: "Since her SyFy bio says she had assisted TAPS in investigations, odds are she did not go through the normal application process."
Nice catch on the DVD. And I agree with your assessment that she didn't go through the normal application process. And the plot thickens…
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