The shark is about 85 feet under this part of the franchise, too, now. They are all going to have to be given spots on GH to buy their silence on the flashlight trick. Oh, their first real paranormal activity happening to them and that's all the reaction we get? Ha! Oh, and let's leave now…well why not, that's part of the GH method of investigating. Sheesh :(

Adam was rightfully upset, that "EVP" in the room was of the BS type. And Adam is exactly right also on the audio matrixing (something I've been hammering at for several seasons when it comes to some of these "EVPs" they trot before us) I suspect that whole bit of nonsense was scripted into the scene to set up the possibility that there was no shoe-in so they could squeeze another 53 seconds of drama out of this thing. Ooooh, Adam missed evidence, he might NOT win it afterall!

Speaking of that, Adam also said that after about 3 hours you start doing that. I suspect it starts happening even before that, but okay, 3 hours. Essex that they showed last night…if you start missing things after 3 hours and if you start re-reviewing and cleaning audio etc, there were probably 100 hours of review EACH for Steve and Tango (4 stationary cams, 4 audio with each, Pylgrym footage from each team, DV and audio that each team was carrying etc) Both Steve and Tango are wearing the same shirts for ALL of the review AND the findings. This episode of GH sponsored by SpeedStick!

Back to this episode's EVP that was "thrown out" The "Good Morning" one. If this was supposedly an isolated environment, and you have something that clear (this was an EVP I actually understood the words to!) then where did it come from? If it wasn't the Cadets and it wasn't Steve/Tango playing a trick, WHO was having the conversation? Something is fishy…maybe it's that shark that's 85 feet under the show.

Learjet…you may need to alter that one to show the Cadets lol, although since this is a Jason franchise that cartoon does capture it well!!

Regarding the SFT (Stupid Flashlight Trick) Adam showed more excitement winning the "game" and being able to go look for ghosts with the GH team than he showed when they actually FOUND and INTERACTED with a ghost (allegedly) More fish.

Witness the excitement he and Michelle showed initially with the thermal image last week. Excitement which was genuine, you could tell. Now compare that to the excitement all three showed this week when they were getting definite responses during the SFT. I bet every one of them has their blood pressure, adrenaline, and excitement level go up higher when their Toaster Strudel finally pops up for their morning breakfast than what it did when the light went on and off.

Eric said:

Seems SOMEONE is on a little soapbox now eh? :)

Who, ME??? :) To paraphrase John Paul Jones "I have not yet begun to point out the problems with this episode" lol

This episode really just rubbed me the wrong way on many levels. The introduction of the flashlight schtick was just…. That dead-noise EVP? Michelle forgetting her EMF detector? What about her handy-dandy pink GHA backpack? Shouldn't it have been in there? Why would she have had it out when they were setting up Ops? The detector omission wasn't perhaps scripted in, was it?

Funny how they proved that the EMFs are useless in this episode. Observe the bed scene where the light turns on…I will have to review the evidence again but I did not see any fluctuation in EMF when the light went on. Did anyone else see it register?

But…wasn't Adam(?) saying in a previous episode that all the ghost had to do was come near "this little device" and he would know it was present? Apparently not, apparently the ghosts can only interact with the K2 type detector.

Can someone bring me another soapbox? This one isn't high enough :)

Well there has never been any proof shown that the ghost WOULD cause a disturbance in the Force, er, Field. But they do put that out there as fact in previous episodes. ("all you have to do is come close to this thingy and we'll know you're here") So we have two possibilities based upon what we saw:

1. They are correct about ghosts affecting the field, in which case the SFT was faked.
2. They are incorrect about ghosts affecting the field, in which case the SFT is ambiguous, BUT then all their other sessions where the ghosts causes K2 action are also then faked because of their incorrect assumption about ghosts generating a field in the first place.

The bit about Michelle and the EMF detector…I meant why would it have been out of her backpack when setting up Central Command in the first place? Everything was originally contained in the backpack when they were issued…I just don't see it having been used when setting up Central Command. It just seemed too convenient. A failing of hers, then we have the trumped up failure of Adam in Evidence Review. I don't know for certain, obviously, but when you start to look at all these things in the big-picture sense…it doesn't come off well. I mean, when Jason has to memorize the line "Well, what about Adam?" :) (listen to his intonation) I have to wonder how far that goes.

A question now, for our resident expert on EMF (whom I have a lot more faith in than any of the folks we saw in last night's episode!) Learjet…given the type of meter being used and it's positioning next to the flashlight, would the activation of the bulb be an action that would cause any registering on the detector? ie, would turning on a flashlight next to that type of detector give a "hit"?

Absoflippinlutely amazing if true, and it was just blipped over in the "Present our findings to Jason and hope he is impressed" section. No "We've had that happen to us, too" from Jason. No "Well done! you really caught something!" No "Giddy anticipation of what Jason will think of us for getting some real evidence finally" No….well, no Nothing! Oh, there was something… "Adam, you didn't bring us this 3 hours of hiss on the tape"

It's very interesting to compare incidents where the teams are truly caught off guard and truly are excited vs reactions during stunts like the STF.

There are a few episodes that I really have problems with: The Manson Episode, The Halloween Episode at Fort Delaware, The Hanger Toss, and Belcourt Castle really stand out (I'm sure there are others but these especially) BTW, Belcourt wasn't for allegedly faked evidence, it was for gross incompetence in analyzing the evidence. For the record, I don't think there was anything really under-handed going on there. I have to add this one onto that list.

More discontinuity, about 25 minutes in (counting commercials) Michelle is sitting on the bed in the Bachelors area. There is an alarm clock on the night stand which is obviously on (you can see the bright numbers indicating the time) Then there is a 'whoa did you hear that' and the camera quickly pans…no Michelle, clock lights off, alarm clock in different locations (but Michelle's voice present) It then jumps to Eric standing and an "aside" with Michelle and then Eric is shown again and you can see the alarm clock…time visible (clock is on) Very likely from "filler roll B" spliced in just like the SWBT (Stupid Water Bottle Trick) when Meatloaf was with them.

Thanks Learjet, very in-depth answer!

In this particular case they are using the Lutron (I believe this was their detector of choice early on) and the light is indeed a mini-mag. I can't quite tell from the footage but it appears to be in Gauss mode (vs Tesla) and in the shot where we can see the readout, it is probably 2-3 inches from the flashlight.

The flashlight IS parallel to the meter so perpendicular to the sensor with the sensor intersecting the flashlight (at least they got that right if they want to measure the ghost grabbing the flashlight) In the window shot (the one I mention above where there is bad editing) the sensor portion of the meter is well away from the flashlight…the EMF sensor of the detector is perpendicular to the barrel, but the sensor itself does not intersect the flashlight.

I cannot see the far right digit of the meter, but there is a gap between the middle figure and the edge and I see no digits forming in that gap when the light goes on.

You said the K2 added RF. Would the Lutron be of use in detecting an RF signal being sent to the flashlight? ie remote control?

We've seen during their Q&A with the K2 that the ghost can easily spike the lights so 20+ milligauss. The lighting of the flashlight did not change the "ones" digit on the Lutron. I can't be certain about the digit right of the decimal, though, although I don't see any change in the display to indicate a number forming. The cadets do NOT mention any EMF activity so we have a discrepancy in what they show a ghost to be able to do (if the SFT is real, and if the K2 Q&A are real for that matter, too)

One thing I should point out is that in the bedscene with the Lutron and the MiniMag, the HEAD of the flashlight (where the bulb-battery contact would be) is left and below the sensor axis of the meter.

I'm going to have to pick up a meter or two just to play around with I think! lol