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9:12 pm
November 25, 2009


Kriste

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I really like Steve and Tango…and I love watching Ghost Hunters/

But, a situation came up on tonights episode where Steve and Tango both said that one of the investigators (a male) was repeating everything that the female investigator was saying. They both called him out, reprimanded him and said that he needs to think for himself.

When that investigator went back and made a comment, agreeing with the female, they said "good boy"

or words to that effect. She picked up the walkie talkie not knowing what was going on and they said,

"He knows what we're talking about".  My opinion they were rude.

They then met with another female and male investigative team and again reprimanded the male for not being the strong one, (not their words) but the perception.

I feel they both, BOTH, need guidance on their teaching skills.

Many a night has gone by where Tango has agreed and copy catted  everything that Steve has said.

Just my opinion………..

8:49 am
November 26, 2009


Nosfer

Rotaredom

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Dumping the "cadets" on their own is fine, and as I said in the previous episode is a good way of separating the chaff. However, this is not the way to do it. Steve and Tango need to pick one person, say "You're in command tonight, set this up" The way it is done, no one knows who's supposed to be in charge and you can't have everyone in charge. As soon as you get three or more in a squad, SOMEONE has to be squad leader. That Steve and Tango do not recognize this does reflect poorly on _their_ leadership and training skills.

I was quite pleased to see Heathyr removed at the end, though Jane should have gone as well. Looks like this IS going to be Survivor, Ghost Hunter's style. Well, makes for good drama, poignant moments, and general all around gnashing of teeth on my end.

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9:46 am
November 26, 2009


The Doctor

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Nosfer said:

I was quite pleased to see Heathyr removed at the end,


Wonder if she saw it coming ?

10:21 am
November 26, 2009


alicat

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The Doctor said:

Nosfer said:

I was quite pleased to see Heathyr removed at the end,


Wonder if she saw it coming ?


Somehow I doubt it! Laughing

8:43 pm
November 26, 2009


Orion

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Well.. I'm not psychic but I knew Heathyr was gone before it even aired. Too many "strikes" from before,  I guess.  Jane ain't going anywhere for a while because.. well, quite frankly, she's some eye candy for the show and I think the producers want that. Besides that, despite her major faux pas (is the plural of pas just "pas"?)  of not taking notes (though gee, I've never seen J, G, Steve or Tango take notes, as evidenced by the show that aired just before and after it); and just dropping the vid camera off and lying about her (lack of) technical expertise, and then going right into the waterworks at the end;  everyone gets a warning or two first.  It wouldn't quite make sense to boot her off on her very first ep. Hell.. I wasn't going to keep watching the show -but now maybe I will. Tongue out

Having an open mind is a two way street.

8:52 pm
November 26, 2009


The Doctor

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Well, that's 5 (6?) nights investigating in three of the most haunted places in the country and they have zero, nada video to show for it.   In the five years of GH, about 200 nights of investigations, I think J&G have been skunked about that many times.

The new question might be … will GHA, as students of Techmangler Steve, ever get any video ?

4:14 am
November 27, 2009


Learjet

Australia

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Did Steve just show the sheetie clip as previous evidence? Lol. It's like the blind leading the blind.

OD'd on EMF

7:29 am
November 27, 2009


alicat

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Orion said:

Besides that, despite her major faux pas (is the plural of pas just "pas"?)  of not taking notes (though gee, I've never seen J, G, Steve or Tango take notes, as evidenced by the show that aired just before and after it)


Orion,

I have to disagree with you on this point.  Although I have never seen Tango take notes, Steve has been taking notes since at least the Belcourt Castle episode which aired earlier this year.  In fact, I have mentioned this on occasion and others have discussed it in a few previous posts.   I think another episode was either the Cuban Club or thereabouts.  Tango does not go on the "tour" so I'm not sure exactly why he would take notes.  The same holds true for Kris, Amy, Joe, Britt or even any of the GHI investigators.  I am surprised that J & G don't but I guessing it would not look good for the "camera".  They have to appear "in charge" and would probably tell you they rely on Steve (shudder).  Actually, they all get notes and an outline from production as to the "story" and what they are looking for, so Steve is most likely doing it for camera angles or that's what we are given to believe although production (to some degree) sets that up as well before they arrive.

8:04 am
November 27, 2009


blinddog

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Though she said it was unnecessary, Jane was taking notes later on in the 'tour'.

Double tap to the head. Don't become Undead.

2:28 pm
November 27, 2009


Orion

The Mundane Plane

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alicat said:

Orion said:

Besides that, despite her major faux pas (is the plural of pas just "pas"?)  of not taking notes (though gee, I've never seen J, G, Steve or Tango take notes, as evidenced by the show that aired just before and after it)


Orion,

I have to disagree with you on this point.  Although I have never seen Tango take notes, Steve has been taking notes since at least the Belcourt Castle episode which aired earlier this year.  In fact, I have mentioned this on occasion and others have discussed it in a few previous posts.   I think another episode was either the Cuban Club or thereabouts.  Tango does not go on the "tour" so I'm not sure exactly why he would take notes.  The same holds true for Kris, Amy, Joe, Britt or even any of the GHI investigators.  I am surprised that J & G don't but I guessing it would not look good for the "camera".  They have to appear "in charge" and would probably tell you they rely on Steve (shudder).  Actually, they all get notes and an outline from production as to the "story" and what they are looking for, so Steve is most likely doing it for camera angles or that's what we are given to believe although production (to some degree) sets that up as well before they arrive.


I have never noticed Steve taking any notes, but as you've probably watch the show more than I, I can't argue the point.  I know Steve didn't get to do the walkthroughs in the first few seasons, until he argued that it was reasonable that the tech mgr do so (with which I happen to agree).   I thought I'd seen Tango on a few walk throughs, but maybe not. 

It is odd that J and G never take notes,  it might look good for the camera that way, but OTOH, wouldn't they look more professional if they did?  They probably have someone off camera in production doing that, like you say.

The main thing is, I guess,  did Steven and Tango ever really teach the "cadets" Undecided to take notes?  If they learn mostly from watching the show, they probably wouldn't think to. But if they were told to take notes enroute, (which we may or may not have seen.. I didn't see ep2) then yeah, they should've been doing that once they got to ESP. It's a real bad idea to try and trust everything to memory.

Having an open mind is a two way street.

6:37 pm
November 27, 2009


Nosfer

Rotaredom

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I have never noticed Steve taking any notes, but as you've probably watch the show more than I, I can't argue the point.

Just to confirm, yes, he has been taking notes the last several. However, Steve, alone, goes on the tour with J&G (not Britt, Kris, Amy, Tango, etc) and then everyone investigates. Question, then…why do ALL the Cadets go on the tour?

Steve's doing it probably because we've made so many comments about how he hears one thing, and then tells Tango another story and Kris a third story, maybe they thought it would look better if he were actually paying attention and taking notes.

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7:02 pm
November 27, 2009


miamiron

Guest

I love the fact that Chris is following in Jason and Grants footsteps

with being touched and seeing shadows in previous episodes…didn't take long

and now he has started to hear things…With these "perceptive" abilities

I'm sure he will be leading the group in no time he just needs more work with the K11

meter and "adjustable" flashlights…Go get um Chris…

9:18 pm
December 1, 2009


cromeet

Guest

Am I the only one who thought it was disturbing that Steve and Tango purposely faked evidence to see if the cadets would think it was a paranormal incident or something else?  I mean think about it,  this really raises questions about their integrity and honesty because what this says to me is that this isn't the first time they've staged evidence.  They actually seem pretty good at it.  I believed for the longest time that it was only Jason and Grant faking evidence but now…

How do I feel about Heathyr being booted off the show?  GOOD RIDDANCE! I mean you talk about an inept investigator!  She's so bad that they decided to keep the girl who didn't realize that the lens cap was still on the camera!  I think it would be funny when that girl gets booted off the show we won't have any video of it because the camera guy forgot to take the cap off the lens!

7:31 am
December 2, 2009


Nosfer

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Nope, didn't bother me, they didn't fake evidence, anyway. Faked evidence would be if this had been collected and used later. This is supposedly training and was nothing different than a live-fire exercise.

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1:48 pm
December 3, 2009


The Doctor

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posts 488

alicat said:

The Doctor said:

Nosfer said:

I was quite pleased to see Heathyr removed at the end,


Wonder if she saw it coming ?


Somehow I doubt it! Laughing


Not sure where this fits, but it is curious -

On SyFy, Heathyr's bio has her as a " Domestic violence advocate "    …..   really ?

2:27 pm
December 3, 2009


wwayneross

Guest

Unfortunately, I missed this show but will probably catch it on You Tube, but as far as Heathyr; I'm surprised that she lasted after the first show.  I'm not sure what she (or the casting director) were thinking from day one.  Has she ever watched GH and did she have any familiarity with the way GH do things?  Not going on the initial walkthrough's, relying on mediumship, doing her own thing, and not adapting her "style".  In my mind, she was pre-arranged as the first "victim" from the initial casting, and she could not have been blind to it, but in on it.  I wonder if she was compensated? 

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Orion said:

Well.. I'm not psychic but I knew Heathyr was gone before it even aired. Too many "strikes" from before,  I guess.  Jane ain't going anywhere for a while because.. well, quite frankly, she's some eye candy for the show and I think the producers want that. Besides that, despite her major faux pas (is the plural of pas just "pas"?)  of not taking notes (though gee, I've never seen J, G, Steve or Tango take notes, as evidenced by the show that aired just before and after it); and just dropping the vid camera off and lying about her (lack of) technical expertise, and then going right into the waterworks at the end;  everyone gets a warning or two first.  It wouldn't quite make sense to boot her off on her very first ep. Hell.. I wasn't going to keep watching the show -but now maybe I will. Tongue out


2:31 pm
December 3, 2009


cromeet

Guest

I know that this is off topic but I'm just curious to what ever happened to Donna?  Also what happened to brian?  Anyone know?

2:54 pm
December 3, 2009


alicat

Lead Investigator

posts 1215

Cromeet,

Both are gone from TAPS, GH and GHI and off on their own personal pursuits like many other members.

4:53 pm
December 3, 2009


Angelayo1970

Sysematically breaking all my new year's resolutions

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The Doctor said:

Not sure where this fits, but it is curious -

On SyFy, Heathyr's bio has her as a " Domestic violence advocate "    …..   really ?


Oh my…that just sounds really bad!

"My name's Heathyr, and I'm here to speak on behalf of the suffering of men who batter their wives and girlfriends…"

Okay, not funny, but that's what it made me think of!

*ashamed of my sick sense of humor*

"In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." -Galileo Galilei

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