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3:23 pm
September 7, 2011


David_Rountree

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Actually there may be a surprise addition to the story later this year….I will keep you all informed.

9:46 pm
September 7, 2011


Learjet

Australia

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Post edited 9:53 pm – September 7, 2011 by Learjet
Post edited 10:06 pm – September 7, 2011 by Learjet


Will be looking forward to the update.

 

Personally I find the distinction between EMF and RF to be somewhat unclear. They are both AC and RF is an electromagnetic field, just at a higher frequency. One way of thinking of it is that anything below 30 kHz is considered "EMF" and everything above that "RF" but frequency aside they are really much the same AC waveform both having electric and magnetic components. The modulation process may have a carrier (AM) or not as in single side band or double sideband suppressed carrier. At least that's how my limited knowledge understands it.

Speaking of SSB and voices with EMF, I was having a conversation with my cousin the other day. He has just recently retired from working with the local electric company as one of the technicians there. We were talking about his job and I was asking about the various types of digital or analogue PLC (Power Line Communication), for water heater switching, different tariffs, fault finding etc. Anyway I then asked if they ever use voice communication over powerlines, to which he said yes, sometimes they use single side band directly over the line! The bandwidth being about 50 to 4000 Hertz as LSB would be.

Now if someone was using some kind of induction coil or EMF "listener" at the time this was going on, as ghost hunters sometimes do, they could very well hear (somewhat garbled) voices coming through!

Not only that, but some some ceiling fan controllers have an uncanny knack of rectifying EMF making it audible, mostly as a buzzzz, but if voice is being transmitted at the time by the power company…. Haunted room anyone?

Just thought I'd mention that as the more I dig into the subject of EMF, the deeper this rabbit hole seems to get!

My apologies for going off topic… again. Back to Andy singing happy birthday. ;)

OD'd on EMF

9:47 am
September 8, 2011


David_Rountree

Investigator in Training

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It is all EMF, meaning an electromagnetic field. The EMF is a very broad spectrum, from .1 Hertz to cosmic and X-Rays, and light in between. The differenc eis paranormal classified events tend to have activity in the very low frequency range, from below the Schuman resonance through the audio spectrum (hence EVP) and into the Brainwave spectrum on its way. Very little is found above 20,000 Hz, and in fact, I have found nothing above about 15KHZ.

For years when you went to school, the clocks were all synced up by broadcasting a signal directly across the power lines to set the clocks. the only issue is the transmission is localized. transformers tend to block it out or further distorrt the signal, but it works very much like a distrubuted audio system using 70.7 volts. Same kind of principle. And as such, the signal trace is a horrid method of looking for voices, as its frequency response is designed to specifically play the signal from a "beeper" signal generator, which is very narrow banded in its scope. It does work well to locate noisy 60Hz sources quickly, and in the ten years I have been using them I have never picked up a voice, and I use them at work, as well as in the research of the paranormal. This is precisesly why the claim is so ridiculous, just as the claims concerning Frank's Box and Shack hacks are ridiculous. Let's just say that when we die we do miraculously sprout an AM transmitter, and the ability to both modulate our EMF on the carrier wave, as well as selectively broadcast it at the same randome rate as the auto-tuning function does in these gadgets. If this is so, then everyone that listens to AM radio should also from time to time get a random out of place word in a strange voice coming through their receiver. So far I have not heard of this happeneing. And if it did, you would have to rule out external RF interference using an RF spectrum analyzer, which NONE of these characters are doing, nor will they agree to do. That also speaks volumes. We tested both of these devices in the lab, and were able to locate the source station for every word the boxes reproduced, and all of them originated at a commercial broadcast station. The random assembly of words can be compelling, but it is in the end, a random asseblage of words or phonetics, depending on the scan rate the operator dials in. Easily debunked, as you would well know as a radio person. So it is hard for me to take anyone who uses these methods with a grain of salt. And to claim one is educated in Quantum mechanics while doing it is ludicrous. Particularly when the area of study claimed isn't even a program at the college, and is a small online course offered to the general public for free.

Question everything. Don't take my word for it, do your own research. All I can say is I have consistently spoken my mind based on my knowledge base and research, and have openly asked others to verify my own work to validate it. Anyone who doesn't do that has something to hide, IMHO.

9:59 am
September 8, 2011


Nosfer

Rotaredom

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David_Rountree said:

All I can say is I have consistently spoken my mind based on my knowledge base and research, and have openly asked others to verify my own work to validate it. Anyone who doesn't do that has something to hide, IMHO.


 

This is important in any research, and no less so in this field.  Maybe even more important in this field because of the way it has developed with everyone going off on their tangents and assuming that certain people's theories are fact without any evidence to back that.  That has long been a complaint here with various "celebrity" hunters…there is no making available of their data for repeatability testing and review.

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12:16 pm
September 8, 2011


David_Rountree

Investigator in Training

posts 14

The funny thing is their "theories" do not even qualify as theories. More like Hypothesis at the best, fanciful opinions based on Folklore at the least. But I humbly agree with you. The scientific method is designed to be applied to all research, and should be. Objective evaluation of data and evidence is the methodology for driving conclusions, not jumping off a proverbial popular cliff.

1:07 pm
September 8, 2011


Orion

The Mundane Plane

Investigator

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David_Rountree said:

 Let's just say that when we die we do miraculously sprout an AM transmitter, and the ability to both modulate our EMF on the carrier wave, as well as selectively broadcast it at the same randome rate as the auto-tuning function does in these gadgets. 


 

AM? Nah, when I die, I'm throwing up a protoplasmic FM transmitter;  HiFi (in stereo no less!) rocks.  Laugh

And by the way, I once operated a water pressure driven hobby rocket when I was 10, so if Andy is a "quantum physicist" via that free online course,  I guess that makes me a rocket scientist.

On a more serious note, at least I didn't hear my pet peeve from these people. I often hear self proclaimed experts speak of "frequencies" as though frequency was unto itself some kind of energy or substance rather than a simple measure of rate. It's an immediate clue to their cluelessness.

Having an open mind is a two way street.

8:39 pm
September 8, 2011


David_Rountree

Investigator in Training

posts 14

They reveal plenty of clues to their cluelessness in any of his talks…..just google him sometime and listen…we selected excerpts from over 15 different shows he did over several years to get an accurate assessment. Some of the things he says are certainly revealing of his basic scientific understanding of things. A Quantum Physicist he ain't……

11:43 pm
October 12, 2011


Realdeal

Tx

Investigator in Training

posts 15

Post edited 8:49 pm – October 13, 2011 by Realdeal


Well Andy and Michelle had ther chance to meet David face to face this weekend at the Central Texas Paranormal Convention in Austin Tx, but the cowards didn't show up. This should show everyone their true colors.

8:13 am
October 13, 2011


David_Rountree

Investigator in Training

posts 14

Cool

2:05 pm
October 13, 2011


David_Rountree

Investigator in Training

posts 14

I certainly had several poignant questions that I would have liked some clarifications on. For example, if you are developing electronic cirsuitry to speak to the dead, what parameters of the dead are you using to drive the design? How is it, that you are getting live voice quality dynamics from a half inch speaker in an inductive signal tracer? How come when the voices are present, we can't see your mouth?

How does your full spectrum camera capture the UV spectrum you claim it captures, and what special hardware are you using to capture it, since plastic and glass are opaque to those frequencies? Who wrote the software that tells the camera what it is seeing?

And the list just keeps growing every day….Laugh

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