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12:18 pm November 23, 2009
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1:56 pm November 23, 2009
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Thanks for the link Nosfer. I love San Diego but never visited this particular location. I think this article really confirms the correlation of "commerce" and haunted locations. I too would like to see that list of 30 but I believe it to be a myth never to substantiated. To me, if you have to pay an admission fee, I think I'll use my common sense and, for the most part, keep my money in the bank.
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2:06 pm November 23, 2009
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[EDITED by ME ]
It appears the US travel Service DID print a tourist brochure series
Traveler's Guide to Special Attractions in 1976 #10 out of 29 was entitled
"The Supernatural: Haunted Houses and Legendary Ghosts"
http://www.nku.edu/~yannarella/news0212.html
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I'm not sure where the author of the article gets this info -
"The designation of a haunted house given to the Whaley House by the U.S. Department of Commerce is only partially accurate.The designation as a “haunted house” to a business that collects entrance fees from the public, serves multiple fiduciary purposes."
- since there does not appear to be anything to be found on this.
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2:51 pm November 23, 2009
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A google search of +"whaley house" +certified does brings up over 3400 pages. I only got to page 4 of the results but the term certified did (in almost all cases) relate to the huanted status being certified (one that I saw did related to certified arborists or some sort of certified tree people)
An eg: http://www.sandiego-california.com/attractions/
Of special note is Old Town's bevy of haunted houses: Robinson-Rose House (the Old Town Visitor Center), the La Casa de Estudillo , a restored adobe home complete with period furnishing, and the Whaley House Museum, a government-certified haunted house since 1960, all of which house cold spots and unexplained phenomena.
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5:38 pm November 23, 2009
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ping to my updated info above
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6:10 pm November 23, 2009
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The Doctor said:
ping to my updated info above
From what I read of the article, he freely admits that he has not seen the "list" and appears somewhat skeptical himself. I take him to mean that any certification would be more along the lines of conforming to code etc, not that there were ghosts actually present.
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6:38 pm November 23, 2009
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Nosfer said:
From what I read of the article, he freely admits that he has not seen the "list" and appears somewhat skeptical himself. I take him to mean that any certification would be more along the lines of conforming to code etc, not that there were ghosts actually present.
That's the way I read it also, but there does not seem to BE any kind of code that specifically designates a "haunted house" in any way shape or form. Since the feds at Commerce don't cover anything unless it crosses State lines ( with a few exceptions ) the only way I could figure them mentioning a "haunted house" is in reference to other fun houses – house of mirrors etc - that get hauled around as carnival attractions, but again no mention turns up. I'd like to see where he found it.
My central library is supposed to have a copy of this 2 page pamphlet, I'll let you know if I get down there.
Surprised that he couldn't find the info on this – just took a few minutes.
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3:29 pm November 24, 2009
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Here's the complete description for the Whaley house taken from a copy of the original 1976 brochure -
" The Whaley House, San Diego's first brick mansion (1856). was also the seat of San Diego's Government and courthouse during the 1860s-70s. Built by Judge Thomas Whaley on the old city executive grounds, the Whaley House is said to be haunted by an unfortunate gallows victim. "
Note the words “ designated ”, “ verified ”, “ certified ” or “ authenticated ” are not included in this description, and the key words " said to be haunted" are included.
The U.S. Travel Service under the Department of Commerce compiled many subject-specific tourist guides such as this in years past.
( did I include all the buzz words so search engines will locate this ? )
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